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Title: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Adam. on June 04, 2012, 03:01:28 am
Hello all,

I have made this topic to address the possible fix to the complaints of the RS5 reset. My resolution that I think would be the best is to split the server into two. One with RS4 and original things and one with the highly anticipated RS5. Now with that being said, there are also consequences to doing so. Splitting the server could potentially mean less new players, which is the lifeline for Argonath. The first thing players so is click on the "Players" tab when searching for servers. Of course an player wants to join a server with a high amount of players. But this could also stop the complaints of players not wanting the reset. Success comes from sacrifice. I know you may just bigger off the topic but it was just an idea. Feel free to reply with your thoughts.

Warm regards,

- Adam
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: murdoxix on June 04, 2012, 03:07:05 am
WTF, no :|! Who is going to pay the hosting? Its a crazy idea, i think :c
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Adam. on June 04, 2012, 03:13:52 am
Argonath is hosted by Azellus, owned by Sauron. They can do whatever they want. It doesn't cost them a penny to add another server. They are a company that sells game servers. It costs them no more to have another server than it would to only have one server.
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: SugarD on June 04, 2012, 03:21:27 am
Argonath is hosted by Azellus, owned by Sauron. They can do whatever they want. It doesn't cost them a penny to add another server. They are a company that sells game servers. It costs them no more to have another server than it would to only have one server.
Wrong. It costs them every time because it's another potential loss in money, not to mention they have no money coming in to pay for the server they have just rented out to themselves. Maintenance costs are all on them. That's why they accept donations and have ads on all Argonath RPG websites.
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: SafetyMoose on June 04, 2012, 03:55:33 am
Wrong. It costs them every time because it's another potential loss in money, not to mention they have no money coming in to pay for the server they have just rented out to themselves. Maintenance costs are all on them. That's why they accept donations and have ads on all Argonath RPG websites.

Just a note sugar, when you start your posts with "Wrong." it comes off as being incredibly arrogant
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: TheRock on June 04, 2012, 04:12:07 am
Just a note sugar, when you start your posts with "Wrong." it comes off as being incredibly arrogant

And pointing that, makes you that guy ;)



No such thing needed, RS4 is bugged to hell, RS5 is new fresh, recoded from 0, and shall replace RS4. That thing about SA-MP not listing names, will be solved by the incoming panel, at least once it's released I guess :)
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Adam. on June 04, 2012, 05:43:38 am
Panel is going to be realeased with RS5 to my understanding. Anyway thanks for the feedback.
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Mikal on June 04, 2012, 11:40:28 am
You kidding right?
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Gandalf on June 04, 2012, 11:46:35 am
There are many possibilities to keep things, not only because of running a server, but also because of our expertise. To write a piece of software that would read the current accounts and puts the data in to a new database would not be impossible. So why are we not going to do that ?
Currently there are many players who are actually inactive, but keeping an account to hog their possessions.
Other players are enjoying millions they gained from script abuse that was discovered later, or from the known methods of scamming the server through multiple accounts.
There are of course many more players who have gathered their belongings through hard work, but it is unfair to them that abusers get money easier.
Now our view is always that money is secondary, but for most players it is important. So to give everyone equal chances in a new script where we are bringing very newthings, we are going to reset most things.
Remember our last reset was in October 2007, and I believe that we can keep the accounts after this reset for the next 5 years at least.
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: saberman on June 04, 2012, 11:53:13 am
Why do you want RS4's money so badly?
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Adam. on June 04, 2012, 02:14:58 pm
Gandalf: I totally understand what you mean in saying that. To new players though, a reset is beneficial.
Luke: It is not I that cares so much, in fact, I LOVE the idea of a reset. This was just an idea for those constantly complaining about it.
Mikal: I didn't ask for feedback like that. Regardless, no, I am not kidding.
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: SafetyMoose on June 04, 2012, 05:06:32 pm
money is not everything as we all know, however there are some people who have been saving up for an expensive business or some other reason and it sucks for it to be taken away. But in my opinion as a veteran member of the community, its not hard to get money once you figure the flow of things out anyways, so its not so much an issue of getting cash but educating newer players on how to take advantage of the opportunities given to them.
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Adam. on June 04, 2012, 05:08:17 pm
money is not everything as we all know, however there are some people who have been saving up for an expensive business or some other reason and it sucks for it to be taken away. But in my opinion as a veteran member of the community, its not hard to get money once you figure the flow of things out anyways, so its not so much an issue of getting cash but educating newer players on how to take advantage of the opportunities given to them.

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Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Sawyer on June 04, 2012, 09:38:21 pm
I fully agree with Safety's post in every part. I think all of the players here try to gather money and make their way of gaming better by having their own cars, bizz, houses. Fun is RPing itself, though. Well money can be gathered soon anyway but I can assure you that the most of the people do not wish to start everything from the begining.

It's not up to me or everyone here, this is job owners take care and I think they want the best for our community.

P.S Well, pictures appearing in my mind if this RS5 going to happen. Like the whole server being cops or growing weed to every single damn weedfield  :D


Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Adam. on June 05, 2012, 01:00:56 am
Oh holy Sauron, please answer my prayer:

We want more weed. :D
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: BKP on June 05, 2012, 02:45:18 am
I'm sure there will be new ways of earning money pretty fast
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: SugarD on June 05, 2012, 03:48:36 am
Last reset didn't have 5 years in the trunk though.
Nope. Just 1.5 :roll:
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Teddy on June 05, 2012, 03:52:37 am
A strong debate about virtual money that means shit when you /q ... 2012... its true. We're fu*ked.
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: SugarD on June 05, 2012, 04:01:05 am
A strong debate about virtual money that means shit when you /q ... 2012... its true. We're fu*ked.
The end is near! :lol:
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Adam. on June 05, 2012, 04:03:28 am
Time to be one of those people on the show "doomsday preppers". Shotgun anybody?  :lol:
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Que on June 05, 2012, 04:04:56 am
It's not even a debate. Being all hyped up about loosing e-money is just a pretty obvious way to show their own immaturity.
Shit, if I was still 13, it would mean something to me as well. When you grow older, you get a different type of perspective of things; even things that you even saw as incredibly important turned into not-so-important.
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Adam. on June 05, 2012, 04:06:45 am
In my honest opinion, I could care less about money that I earned in a computer game. I only made this topic for the people that DO complain. Reset it today, I'll have no problem.
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: SugarD on June 05, 2012, 04:08:08 am
Time to be one of those people on the show "doomsday preppers". Shotgun anybody?  :lol:
The invasion is coming (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=84521.0)!!! Get out your Twinkie supplies! The end is near!!! :lol:
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Adam. on June 05, 2012, 04:26:09 am
Sugar, the twinkie makers went out of business....  :poke:
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Teddy on June 05, 2012, 04:32:54 am
Sugar, the twinkie makers went out of business....  :poke:

No sir! They filed for bankruptcy, then used a cheap-tactic to take its recipe and make in under a new name. They are still made, in America. And if its made in america it uses bad shit to make it last a nuclear fallout. :cool:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapter_11 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapter_11) - is what they filed. They keep the business, as they are still trying to save it. However, it gives them time to avoid paying shit.
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Conroy on June 05, 2012, 04:33:23 am
Sugar, the twinkie makers went out of business....  :poke:

So did this topic... Please keep on the subject :(
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Teddy on June 05, 2012, 04:38:37 am
So did this topic... Please keep on the subject :(

Pretty sure Ronnel already hit the nail on the head.

The creation of a script to copy DINI flat-file over to MySQL would be easy, sure the execution may take some time; but with the skill that is required to make a GM, a task so simple wouldn't be a problem. But that isn't the problem. There is no problem, its just time to throw in the white towel and start over, not just for new players to "catch up".
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: SafetyMoose on June 05, 2012, 06:23:46 am
I can se it being upsetting to players who have been saving up for a large business or something, only to find they have to start again... Some places like Casinos are pretty pricy, and I know a few people who have been saving up for them.
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Gandalf on June 05, 2012, 01:26:36 pm
I can se it being upsetting to players who have been saving up for a large business or something, only to find they have to start again... Some places like Casinos are pretty pricy, and I know a few people who have been saving up for them.
But the fun is they will get to save again, and probably even get the chance to buy their favourite business before huge buyouts set in.
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Adam. on June 05, 2012, 04:54:09 pm
I can se it being upsetting to players who have been saving up for a large business or something, only to find they have to start again... Some places like Casinos are pretty pricy, and I know a few people who have been saving up for them.
But the fun is they will get to save again, and probably even get the chance to buy their favourite business before huge buyouts set in.

Well here's the one problem, these people might go in main chat that they are leaving Argonath, then they will come back and play as normal. :lol:
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Gandalf on June 05, 2012, 04:56:39 pm
Well here's the one problem, these people might go in main chat that they are leaving Argonath, then they will come back and play as normal. :lol:
Gonna be hard if we ban them  :D
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Adam. on June 05, 2012, 05:07:55 pm
Gonna be hard if we ban them  :D

To Sf_Sa it wont be.  ;)
Quote
Mad_Player: (1337) This is bullshit I'm leaving Argonath.
[R*]RON: (1338) Bye. Have fun! :D

Next day:

Mad_Player: (0) Hey guys.
[R*]RON: (1338) What happened to you leaving?
Mad_Player: (0) I never said I was leaving!
[R*]RON: (1338)  :trust:
Title: Re: Possible way to prevent RS5 losses.
Post by: Karmps. on June 05, 2012, 05:28:09 pm
money is not everything as we all know, however there are some people who have been saving up for an expensive business or some other reason and it sucks for it to be taken away. But in my opinion as a veteran member of the community, its not hard to get money once you figure the flow of things out anyways, so its not so much an issue of getting cash but educating newer players on how to take advantage of the opportunities given to them.
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