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Title: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: S1mon on July 26, 2012, 05:03:12 pm
Hello Argonath. I, as Civil Courts Judge Assistant, am starting an investigation of compliance of Section III Act III of Argonath Consitution by LSPD and DPD officers. As I'm a resident of Los Santos, my investigation will include only Los Santos urban area.

The goal of that investigation is to check how LSPD and DPD officers are following legal acts, that they must guard. The results will be made public in this thread. Any comments are welcome.

Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: Morais on July 27, 2012, 04:43:00 pm
Speeding and reckless driving without Code 3 will be the most common. Good luck.
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: S1mon on July 27, 2012, 06:05:46 pm
The problem is that in Los Santos we can often see LSPD or DPD officers speeding, driving recklessly on duty cars without siren on, or even on civilian cars. Today I'll keep investigating, and some work reports will be done today or tomorrow.

As result of investigation, some letters will be sent to LSPD command, Supreme Judges and Mr.President.
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: Teddy on July 30, 2012, 01:01:05 am
And the point of this is?

Any person committing acts shall be punished accordingly. This is not a civil court matter, so pipe of the power trip. Feel free to collect evidence and report to higher level law enforcement. But, still the law is already set.

Signed
- Teddy
A. Judge of Economical Courts
&
FBI Division Assistant
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: Volcom on July 30, 2012, 01:22:04 am
Speeding and reckless driving without Code 3 will be the most common. Good luck.
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on July 30, 2012, 05:22:26 am
This investigation is along the lines BCA looks to do in close future.
Good luck.

And the point of this is?

Any person committing acts shall be punished accordingly. This is not a civil court matter, so pipe of the power trip. Feel free to collect evidence and report to higher level law enforcement. But, still the law is already set.

Signed
- Teddy
A. Judge of Economical Courts
&
FBI Division Assistant

This comment shows the judges may lack communication on the matter.
Or are you posting as FBI?

Do FBI serve as Judges also if they are Judges or do Judges also serve as FBI at the same time if Judges?  :conf:

^ As c'est moi.
V as a mod

Also you say pipe down the power (look at your own "signed") so don't put a downer on others.




Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: Jones on July 31, 2012, 11:35:59 pm
Do FBI serve as Judges also if they are Judges or do Judges also serve as FBI at the same time if Judges?  :conf:

Mindf**k.

You complete your Judges' tasks as a Judge, that should answer your question if I interpreted it correctly.

Being a Judge does not affect your role as an FBI agent, if you meant it like that.
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on August 02, 2012, 01:11:46 am
Mindf**k.

You complete your Judges' tasks as a Judge, that should answer your question if I interpreted it correctly.

Being a Judge does not affect your role as an FBI agent, if you meant it like that.
This is going a bit side lined from the topic however I can move the posts later on if needed.
So should someone put Assistant judge and FBI agent on the same signature - looks as if the jobs / experience are being combined through one channel.
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: Jones on August 02, 2012, 12:00:45 pm
As an FBI Agent you should have some knowledge of how the courts work and should have good knowledge of the constitution. Therefore if there was a point to make about knowledge of the judicial system then presumably the person in question would identify themselfs with any possible position that relates to the topic.

Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: Teddy on August 05, 2012, 04:26:32 am
At no point, does my career as a Judge affect my career as a Federal Agent, and vise-versa. Thus, I keep the two separated and keep all conflicts of interest, in both scenarios left to another Judge if faced upon this situation.

My post was a rare occurrence, I was posting as both. As a superior member of the FBI, and as a judge. The reason was trying to convey the message this isn't a matter of his own power-ego trip as a judge (again). This isn't a lack of communication either, this is just insubordinate, and crossing the boundary of his position as a Judge Assistant. In fact, he'll be watched to ensure he himself doesn't violate any laws, mainly Section 3, Act XIV, Act XIII, Act XXI.

Anyone having concern of the actions of officers violating the laws is not a matter of the Supreme Court, they are appeals court and the other role, well... the law is already set. This demonstrates a lack of knowledge of the court system you serve. The proper way to handle this is to file a legal complaint against the proven by legal means with their superior members.

Keep it in mind, I am not trying to protect officers or even agents. Nobody is above the law here. I will not however, support a judge assistant violating the rights of Officers, or stepping out of his position as a judge assistant of an unrelated court. IF any court was to step into this matter, it would be the one that deals with criminal law, Criminal court if you didn't know.

Again, any complaints with legally obtained evidence on this matter should be reported to SAPD Lt or higher or FBI Division Assistants or higher or via forum complaint board on the SAPD, and even if an agent is seen violating these, the complaint board found on the FBI forums works perfectly fine.

I hope this clears things up for everyone.
Teddy
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: Louis_Keyl on August 05, 2012, 09:50:00 am
Since when is it the Judges job to enforce the laws? Someone has not completed their homework regarding the constitution.....

Quote
III.III: The law is divided into three equally and important powers: Law Making, Law Judgement, Law Enforcement.

Guess which one the (normal) judges belong to. :D
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: Duncan_James on August 12, 2012, 06:52:32 pm
Good luck in your job , judge Simon  :)
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on June 17, 2013, 10:26:03 pm
Progress report please.
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: Marcel on June 17, 2013, 10:47:58 pm
S1mon is no longer a judge (assistant), can be locked.
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on June 17, 2013, 10:49:50 pm
S1mon is no longer a judge (assistant), can be locked.

Doesn't mean he can't give the report findings.
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: Marcel on June 17, 2013, 10:52:05 pm
Doesn't mean he can't give the report findings.

As far as there were any findings, given the fact that he started the investigation a year ago, he's also currently banned.
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: Nexus_Riggs on June 20, 2013, 08:18:50 am
There should be implanted traffic signal on the highway ramps. People must be aware of the actual entrance.
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: Morais on June 24, 2013, 04:07:52 pm
There should be implanted traffic signal on the highway ramps. People must be aware of the actual entrance.

If someone is in the right lane he will understand the right entrance. You dont have big panels saying GO HERE at each intersection do you
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: Nexus_Riggs on June 28, 2013, 08:38:51 am
If someone is in the right lane he will understand the right entrance. You dont have big panels saying GO HERE at each intersection do you
They will want to take the shortcut, but the traffic signal attracts their mind towards making the right decision. However when they are charged with traffic violation, the law enforcement have proper evidence to show that the citizen knowingly violated the traffic law.
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: S1mon on June 29, 2013, 07:33:24 am
As I was fired from judge (right for that investigation), I gaved up with it.
I think after Argo RPG will be up, I will keep with the investigation. Maybe I will try to make reports every week, and the FP will be changed.
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: Matthew_Green on July 31, 2013, 03:11:44 am
Speeding and reckless driving without Code 3 will be the most common. Good luck.


Everyone does this. Everyone including: Firemen, Paramedics, FBI, SAPD, and others.


Also this, About 50% of all emergency service personnel always use the incorrect ramp going either Code 3 or no Code 3 at any given freeway interchange in San Andreas. The most common ones are: Mulholland Interchange, Montgomery Interchange, and the Southwest Interchange in the Las Venturas Beltway.

There should be implanted traffic signal on the highway ramps. People must be aware of the actual entrance.

That would be very nice, but I highly doubt that everyone would pay attention to them unless there's a cop stationed there 24/7.
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: Huntsman on August 30, 2013, 12:45:29 pm
I'm sorry if I'll sound like an ass, but I cannot see how someone who constantly keeps comitting crimes and then harasses police officers can perform such an investigation?
Title: Re: [Judge's investigation] Compliance of S.III A.III (traffic rules)
Post by: Lionel Valdes on August 30, 2013, 01:21:12 pm
Speeding and reckless driving without Code 3 will be the most common. Good luck.

I'm still taking photos of such incidents.
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