Argonath RPG - A World of its own

GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Patrick_Sivero on August 16, 2012, 04:56:48 am

Title: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Patrick_Sivero on August 16, 2012, 04:56:48 am
Also why I will not be playing Argonath much longer.

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* We meet on the Grant Bridge *

[17:11:41] Violet_Corleone(59) says: So,

[17:11:48] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You wanted meeting?

* Close to 10 people at this point are in a limo and Buffalo *


[17:12:16] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Yes, I thought this was going to be a smaller meeting than this

[17:12:43] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: However, I would like to resolve this hostility between our families

* Make that 11.  vvv
*

[17:13:27] (NK)Andreas(60) says: Hey fellas

[17:13:36] (NK)Andreas(60) says: Thanks for the ride

[17:13:43] (NK)Andreas(60) says: Theres my plane ;p


[17:13:56] Marcell_Corleone(69) turns off the engine of their vehicle.

[17:14:02] Joe_Corleone.(46) opens door.

[17:14:05] Marcell_Corleone(69) opens up the door

[17:14:08] Rapture_Corleone(6) steps out and nods


*Gets in a boat and goes to large ship*


[17:16:58] Climbing up Time = 5 seconds

[17:17:04] You should be able to move now but if you still can't, try using /thawme


*We go down into the hull of the ship*


[17:19:03] Joe_Corleone.(46) takes out a cuban

[17:19:06] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: You got a light?

[17:19:12] Marcell_Corleone(69) says: Yeah

[17:19:15] Joe_Corleone.(46) holds up his cigar

[17:19:22] Marcell_Corleone(69) lights Joe's cigar using his own cigar...

[17:19:28] Joe_Corleone.(46) puffs

[17:19:29] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: Thanks

[17:19:36] Joe_Corleone. uses a cigar.

[17:19:37] Violet_Corleone(59) shouts: Take a seat!!

[17:19:41] Animation applied.

[17:19:53] Violet_Corleone(59) says: So.

[17:19:57] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You want a meeting?

[17:20:01] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You got one.

[17:20:10] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Thank you.

[17:20:13] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Now, I can offer you a ceasefire.

[17:20:19] Violet_Corleone(59) says: But I want something back.

[17:20:46] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: A Truce?

[17:20:47] Violet_Corleone(59) says: What do you have to say?

[17:21:03] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I think you heard me wrong.

[17:21:13] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: What do you want for this Cease Fire?

[17:21:16] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I can offer a ceasefire, but I want something in return.

[17:21:25] Violet_Corleone(59) says: What do you have to say?

[17:21:54] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Lets hear your terms, and we can discuss option further.

[17:22:12] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I don't think you're in a situation to be discussing, to be frank.

[17:22:19] Violet_Corleone(59) has a look around.


*9 - 12 Corleone Associates.*


[17:22:29] Joe_Corleone.(46) looks at Andreas.

[17:22:35] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Anyway, I'll be quick.

[17:22:37] Joe_Corleone.(46) motions to conceal his weapon

[17:22:47] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I heard you guys are fond of drugs.

[17:22:57] (NK)Andreas(60) says: Is felling left out in terms of fashion

[17:23:48] Violet_Corleone(59) coughs.

[17:23:48] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: We do make money through the transaction of Illegal Narcotics.

[17:23:48] (NK)Andreas(60) Gets a very innaporpriate and not needed erection

[17:24:21] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Is that heroin and weed?

[17:24:22] (NK)Andreas(60) Ahh people are looking at me just act natural andreas

[17:24:29] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Yes.

[17:24:36] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Okay.

[17:24:40] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I do a deal with you.

[17:24:58] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Three kilos of weed and two batches of heroin in exchange for a truce.

[17:25:15] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: What defines a batch?

[17:25:17] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Otherwise we'll leave your body for the fish to eat.

[17:25:23] Violet_Corleone(59) says: A thousand needles.

[17:25:36] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Who knows, maybe I will be impressed and ally.

[17:25:42] Please, in grams for game purposes. (Patrick_Sivero(8))

[17:25:48] 2000 (Marcell_Corleone(69))

[17:25:55] 2k heroin 3k weed (Joe_Corleone.(46))

[17:25:59] Thanks. (Patrick_Sivero(8))

[17:26:39] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: As you may or may not have noticed, We are having an issue coming up with any narcotics at this time.

[17:26:41] Violet_Corleone(59) looks at his watch.

[17:26:48] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I don't like issues.

[17:26:54] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Just tell me yes or no.

[17:27:05] Joe_Corleone.(46) Removes his Glock.

[17:27:16] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You'll have more than issues if you're wasting my time.

[17:27:17] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: The answer is, truthfully, I cannot make a guarantee to come up with this narcotics.

[17:27:31] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: I came to be peaceful. For the sake of YairSForza

[17:27:58] Violet_Corleone(59) says: And why is that?

[17:28:15] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: We are, As i said, looking to be an ally of SForza.

[17:28:39] Violet_Corleone(59) says: And the drugs are worth being f**ked over by us and Sforza?

[17:28:51] Violet_Corleone(59) says: And the drugs aren't worth being f**ked over by us and Sforza? **

[17:28:57] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Im saying it is not possible to obtain in any time frame.

[17:29:04] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Your call, first you will die.

[17:29:08] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Then the others.

[17:29:19] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Do i get one last phone call?

[17:29:29] Violet_Corleone(59) says: To who?

[17:29:49] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Just to say goodbye.

[17:29:55] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: To my boss.

[17:30:01] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Number?

[17:30:18] Use /getphone [id]

[17:30:27] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Number of boss?

[17:30:29] Players with this name: Toxic_Sivero(77)

[17:30:33] Phone number of Toxic_Sivero(77) is: 459140

[17:30:38] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: 459140

[17:30:51] Violet_Corleone(59) takes out a phone.

[17:31:00] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Hello

[17:31:02] Joe_Corleone.(46) looks at Patrick

[17:31:06] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: You can remain seated.

[17:31:06] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Mr Corleone.

[17:31:10] Animation applied.

[17:31:56] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):I offered him a truce if you can provide me 3k weed and 2k heroin.

[17:32:07] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):And I will speak to Sforza so you can ally too.

[17:32:19] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):But he says that it will be hard.

[17:32:33] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Do you not have 3k weed and 2k heroin?

[17:33:05] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Yes, I expect it in return for Corleone not to f**k you up into 2013.

[17:33:30] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Otherwise you will be Sforza enemies too.

[17:34:04] Marcell_Corleone(69) drops the finished cigar on the ground stomping on it.

[17:34:06] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Looks like you don't know how to do business.

[17:34:16] Patrick_Sivero(8) hangs his head.

[17:34:34] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Do you not have that much in store as leader...?

[17:34:43] Marcell_Corleone(69) takes a small canteen from his pocket and drinks a sip of vodka

[17:34:45] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):I have trials with more than that.

[17:35:25] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):What do you mean?

[17:35:41] (NK)Andreas(60) leans and stays off his gurad like all good Guradsmen

[17:35:42] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Where are you at the moment?

[17:36:18] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Come down to San Fierro.

[17:36:22] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):With the drugs.

[17:36:56] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Enlighten me.

[17:37:14] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):What quantity of drugs do you have?

[17:37:55] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Well either you comply, or your friend here dies.

[17:37:59] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Okay.

[17:38:04] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Wakey wakey.

[17:38:16] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You say you made money from the drugs?

[17:38:27] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Yes.

[17:38:38] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Okay, I want the monetary value of the drugs.

[17:38:38] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: We collect, And Sell.

[17:38:52] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Im afraid those vary and aren't consistant.

[17:38:57] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I will accept half a million dollars.

[17:39:10] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):I will accept half a million dollars.

[17:39:14] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: What about $38,000?

[17:39:23] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Because I have that much cash.

[17:39:25] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):As your 'Elite' guy says you make money from the drugs.

[17:39:29] Violet_Corleone(59) shouts: Haha!!

[17:39:53] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You can get the drugs I want for that much?

[17:40:06] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: No.

[17:40:10] Violet_Corleone(59) says: If you can I will offer alliance right now.

[17:40:14] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Well then.

[17:40:29] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I need enough money to make 3k weed and 2k heroin.

[17:40:33] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Come down here.

[17:40:39] Marcell_Corleone(69) raises his jacket behind his back reaching something as he keeps holding it, but without doing any movemen

[17:40:39] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Come alone.

[17:40:44] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Security is high.

[17:40:52] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Ok ))

[17:41:00] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: What happened to Peaceful conversation?

[17:41:11] Violet_Corleone(59) says: This isn't peaceful?

[17:41:24] Marcell_Corleone(69) says: You're not bleeding yet so...

[17:41:28] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Giving me an option that is not possible, for exchange of my life?

[17:41:29] Joe_Corleone.(46) looks at the boss.

[17:41:33] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: Want me top side boss?

[17:41:37] Violet_Corleone(59) says: It's not possible?

[17:42:02] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: I come hoping to bring peace, and you bring extortion, and a 'hostage-like' situation?

[17:42:20] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: You say come alone, You bring 10 guys

[17:42:22] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I thought you weren't getting people from Pizza Hut as members.

[17:42:39] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: The members we have are not average joes.

[17:42:48] Violet_Corleone(59) says: And you're telling me between ALL of you don't have 2k heroin and 3k weed.

[17:42:54] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Is this some kind of joke?

[17:43:07] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: No, we sell all narcotics.

[17:43:17] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Hell

[17:43:23] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: And not to make excuses, but HA has caused a few bumps.

[17:43:27] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Xommer Petrol Station.

[17:43:33] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):See, I don't like them either.

[17:43:45] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Get me the drugs and I will help you out with them atleast.

[17:43:52] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Okay.

[17:44:21] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: i cannot get 100g of Heroin without HA gone.

[17:44:52] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Your ride is coming.

[17:44:59] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: They claim to own the heroin trade in San Andreas.

[17:45:31] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Haha.

[17:45:38] Violet_Corleone(59) says: And weed?

[17:45:46] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Get me 5k weed and I'll call it a deal.

[17:46:01] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Or half a million dollars, after all you say you sell all your drugs.

[17:46:38] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: I appreciate your consideration of our dilemma, however, I do not have a half of a million dollars, or

[17:46:51] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: or 3000g of weed.

[17:47:05] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: At what point did i say i made millions off of selling drugs?

[17:47:20] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You all together don't have it?

[17:47:21] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: I collect what I can, and sell it.

[17:47:32] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: No. We don't.

[17:47:33] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You want an alliance with Sforza and you don't have 500k?

[17:47:59] Marcell_Corleone(69) says: The motorcycle clubs are wealthier than you....

[17:48:09] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: That may be true.

[17:48:28] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):They are en-route.

[17:48:49] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: This 'peaceful' conversation is counter-productive.

[17:48:52] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Two minutes.

[17:48:57] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Is there another option?

[17:48:57] Violet_Corleone(59) says: And you propose?

[17:49:39] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Perhaps we can make another arrangement.

[17:49:46] Violet_Corleone(59) says: And you propose?

[17:50:17] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Where exactly are you?

[17:50:40] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Right.

[17:50:43] Violet_Corleone(59) says: So?

[17:50:45] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Right now we do not have much, thats why we are seeking alliance.

[17:50:54] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):You need resources first.

[17:51:01] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Half a million is not a lot.

[17:51:03] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: We are new to San Andreas.

[17:51:20] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: I have only been in town myself for 2 weeks.

[17:51:55] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Your boss is coming.

[17:53:07] Toxic_Sivero(77) climbs the ladder

[17:54:54] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Take a seat in the middle.

[17:54:54] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: Boss.

[17:54:58] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: You're vistor.

[17:54:58] Violet_Corleone(59) nods.

[17:55:14] Violet_Corleone(59) says: So.

[17:55:23] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: Yes, Ma'am?

[17:55:27] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You can get me 500k or 5k of drugs.

[17:55:55] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: Firstly, I would like to know what started this?

[17:56:04] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: As to why we are enemies in the first place

[17:56:11] Violet_Corleone(59) has a look at Patrick.

[17:56:19] Violet_Corleone(59) says: No point looking at that.

[17:56:23] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Your concern is ending it.

[17:56:54] Violet_Corleone(59) says: How much can you afford to pay out?

[17:56:59] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: Well, regarding the drugs

[17:57:11] Patrick_Sivero(8) hangs his head.

[17:57:21] Toxic_Sivero(77) gave a condom to Violet_Corleone(59).

[17:57:22] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: Or, you can go f**k yourself and accept my other gift.

[17:57:35] Joe_Corleone.(46) removes his Glock.

[17:57:38] Violet_Corleone(59) says: How much can you afford to pay out?

[17:57:47] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Do not piss me off, it won't end for you.

[17:57:50] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: As many condoms as you can hold up your ass

[17:57:53] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Do not piss me off, it won't end well for you.

[17:58:03] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I offered a reasonable solution.

[17:58:03] Joe_Corleone.(46) glares.


[17:58:08] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: Nothing ever ends well in the island of San Fierro

[17:58:10] (NK)Andreas(60) shouts: GUNSHOTS !!!

* Blazer_Sivero and Chazy_Sivero crashed the meeting. *


[17:58:18] [EAF]Admantis(18) whispers: oh lawd

[17:58:24] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You realise HA will be friends with us?

[17:58:37] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You can kiss goodbye to any drug dealing in San Andreas.

[17:58:38] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: You realise that one could not care?

[17:58:41] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: No they wont, as they are teamed with Luciano.

[17:58:45] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: and I know they have 4 members

[17:58:51] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: So here's a johnny for each

[17:58:54] Toxic_Sivero(77) gave 4 condoms to Violet_Corleone(59).

[17:59:04] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: Now kindly, go f**k yourself.

[17:59:07] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Rest in peace then.

[17:59:08] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Luciano and SForza, who you are partnered with, will not ever happen.

[17:59:24] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: RIP, I'll get used to that one day.



[17:59:58] Joe_Corleone.(46) grabs both of them by the shirt.

[18:00:25] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: On your knees.

[18:00:29] Rapture_Corleone gave [EAF]Admantis a MP5 with 70 ammunition.

[18:00:32] Toxic_Sivero(77) gave a condom to Joe_Corleone.(46).

[18:00:34] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Follow your boss.

[18:00:41] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: This is very productive i might add.

[18:00:56] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: On your knees.

[18:01:12] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: I wont die on my knees.

[18:01:17] Violet_Corleone(59) takes out his condoms.

[18:01:21] [EAF]Admantis(18) looks at the victims and smiles

[18:01:22] Violet_Corleone(59) hands one to the two guys.

[18:01:22] Joe_Corleone.(46) kicks the man in the back of his knees

[18:01:29] Violet_Corleone(59) gave a condom to Toxic_Sivero(77).

[18:01:32] You received a condom from Violet_Corleone(59).

[18:01:38] Rapture_Corleone(6) reloads his SMG.


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[18:01:42] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: I have a feeling I'm about to be raped.


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[18:02:06] Joe_Corleone.(46) cuts of Patrick clothing

[18:02:11] William_Corleone gave Violet_Corleone a Knife


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[18:02:19] Joe_Corleone.(46) cuts of Toxic clothing


[18:02:23] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-011.png


[18:02:28] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: please

[18:02:35] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: Go into the corner

* Blazer and Chazy try to escape. Chazy is returned. *


[18:02:53] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: really + youre cuffed ))

[18:03:10] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: Move it youre motherf**king bad girl

[18:03:11] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: Utilize those condoms.

[18:03:14] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) pushes Chazy


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[18:03:27] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) drags of chazy's pants


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[18:03:33] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: dude

[18:03:34] Violet_Corleone(59) observes the two naked individuals backed up against the wall.


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[18:03:40] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) cuts up his underwear

[18:03:42] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: Your going to rape me?


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[18:03:52] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: ahhhhh

[18:03:53] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: up against the wall



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[18:04:09] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) pushes the white man up against the wall

[18:04:17] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) takes a steady grip onto his neck


[18:04:24] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-017.png


[18:04:24] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) a grip that will leave marks

[18:04:31] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) steadly unsipz his pants


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[18:04:39] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) wanks up his large black cock

[18:04:43] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: nooo


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* Blazer returns. *


[18:04:47] Blazer_Sivero(63) shouts: Alright listen us ladies!!

[18:04:47] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) pushes the cock inside his asshole

[18:04:51] Blazer_Sivero(63) Takes out a grenade

[18:04:54] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) begins to f**k the son of a bad girl

[18:04:59] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: Motherf**ker are you happy now?

[18:04:59] Blazer_Sivero(63) Takes out the pin and holds itr


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[18:05:03] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: what the shit!!

[18:05:12] Blazer_Sivero(63) shouts: I will drop this shit if i die!!

[18:05:12] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) pushes the shit out of chazys ass


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[18:05:20] Toxic_Sivero(77) whispers: Ey' Patrick, I think this Frank kid is a homo. Good job CJ doesn't know him.

[18:05:20] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: Oh yeah, youre litle white boy

[18:05:33] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) pushes the dick deep inside his asshole to make it bleed


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[18:05:39] Blazer_Sivero(63) shouts: Let them go and you we all live!!

[18:05:39] Chazy_Sivero(3) shouts: aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!

[18:05:44] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) drags the cock out and wanks abit

[18:05:48] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) cums all over his ass

[18:05:49] William_Corleone(53) says: You two


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[18:05:56] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: ahhh

[18:05:57] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) kicks him agains the corner

[18:06:06] Joe_Corleone.(46) shouts: I'd suggest you throw that the other way pal.!!

[18:06:14] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: We all know you don't want to die.

[18:06:16] Blazer_Sivero(63) says: You shoot me and ile drop it

[18:06:17] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) zips his pants

*Meanwhile..

[18:06:17] PM to TheRock(44): Is Rape in RP allowed?


[18:06:21] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: I'm not sure you're boss would be all that happy either.

[18:06:22] Violet_Corleone(59) says: hello?


[18:06:28] PM from TheRock(44): If both 'parties' agree yea.


[18:06:30] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: Oh, hi

[18:06:33] Blazer_Sivero(63) shouts: ALL OF YOU ile drop this shit!!

[18:06:36] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: again *sighs*

[18:06:39] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You two going to do something?

[18:06:41] (NK)Andreas(60) shouts: Lets give em a good hiding lads!!

[18:06:43] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: this aint right

[18:06:53] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: What's the point?

[18:06:54] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I was hoping your member would see you guys mate.

[18:07:03] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: I dont like this.

[18:07:07] [EAF]Admantis(18) kicks Chazy on the groin.

[18:07:09] Rapture_Corleone(6) kicks the guy on the floor and chuckles

[18:07:09] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: Mate? We aren't animals.

[18:07:10] Blazer_Sivero(63) Grips the grenada tightly

[18:07:12] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: all i can say is

[18:07:12] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Didn't think you would.

[18:07:17] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: Welcome to angel pine

[18:07:17] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: I do not agree with the raping.

[18:07:37] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: I'd highly suggest you not do anything stupid.

[18:07:39] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You'll be raping each other or I will kill you both in front of your member and record it.

[18:07:39] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: Tell me, Violet, are all of your men homo's, do you rape all of your victims?

[18:07:42] (NK)Andreas(60) says: Gets his knife close to chazys balls and asks "Do you plan on having kids ?"

[18:07:44] Rapture_Corleone(6) kicks Chazy again

[18:07:47] [EAF]Admantis(18) says: little white boy

[18:07:50] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: It takes atleast 10 sec for a grenade to blow up after the pin is released.

[18:07:55] I do not agree with raping. (Patrick_Sivero(8))

[18:07:56] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: That gives us 10 sec to throw it away.

[18:08:01] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: Not cool man

[18:08:01] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: and 10 sec, to kill you.

[18:08:04] I ain't raping you lol (Violet_Corleone(59))

[18:08:07] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: Think real hard about what your doing.

[18:08:09] Blazer_Sivero(63) says: Im an expert and ive cut the fuse wire

[18:08:17] Chazy_Sivero(3) drops crack rock

[18:08:19] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: shit

[18:08:21] I never said just me. My Girlfriend was raped. (Patrick_Sivero(8))

[18:08:25] Toxic_Sivero used some heroin, better lay off the drugs.

[18:08:33] Blazer_Sivero(63) shouts: Motherf**king Corleones listen up bad girles!!

[18:08:36] Toxic_Sivero(77) whispers: gooooood sheeet

[18:08:39] Ok so you can do it yourselves...? (Violet_Corleone(59))

[18:08:43] You received a gram of heroin from Toxic_Sivero(77).

[18:08:44] [EAF]Admantis(18) fails.

[18:08:44] Blazer_Sivero(63) shouts: Ile drop this grenade on your heads!!

[18:08:44] not in a good/video game way. (Patrick_Sivero(8))

[18:08:54] Patrick_Sivero used some heroin, better lay off the drugs.

[18:08:55] Blazer_Sivero(63) shouts: Let them go!!

[18:09:01] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: DROP THE f**kING GRENADE

[18:09:04] Chazy_Sivero(3) shouts: Blazer think about us!!

[18:09:09] Chazy_Sivero(3) shouts: You kill us all!!

[18:09:13] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: YOU GONNA BLOW UP YOURE FRIEND?

[18:09:13] Blazer_Sivero(63) shouts: f**k that Chazy we all die !!

[18:09:14] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: I hope this shit kills me

[18:09:16] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I propose you two start doing something or your members die.

[18:09:19] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: stupid cunt

[18:09:25] Chazy_Sivero(3) shouts: dont be stupid!!

[18:09:26] Blazer_Sivero(63) shouts: Stay the f**k back or we all die!!

[18:09:29] Violet_Corleone(59) drags Chazy towards himself.

[18:09:50] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: get down there

[18:10:05] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Hows your asshole Chazy?

[18:10:09] Blazer_Sivero(63) says: And none of you are intrested in the Rp, Whatever im done here.

[18:10:13] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: i dont want to talk about it

[18:10:22] (NK)Andreas(60) shouts: Siveros hands up!!

[18:10:26] Animation applied.


[18:10:49] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-024.png


[18:10:49] (NK)Andreas(60) says: I got no smg :(

[18:10:49] Rapture_Corleone(6) turns the safety off on his SMG


[18:10:53] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-025.png


[18:10:54] Violet_Corleone(59) shouts: Are you ready?!!


[18:10:58] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-026.png


[18:11:04] (NK)Andreas(60) says: Ok thanks man

[18:11:09] Chazy_Sivero(3) shouts: are you ready mother f**kers!!

[18:11:09] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Yeah im ready.

[18:11:11] Rapture_Corleone(6) shouts: Yes sir!!

[18:11:13] [EAF]Admantis(18) shouts: kurwa!!

[18:11:25] Rush over, that felt good

* All shot execution style. Chazy fights back with Combat shotgun. *


[18:11:30] <Patrick_Sivero> (8) Sweet

[18:11:39] <Patrick_Sivero> (8) I love being murdered

[18:11:49] <Patrick_Sivero> (8) Good RP Corleones

Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: SafetyMoose on August 16, 2012, 05:06:34 am
tl:dr
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: stormeus on August 16, 2012, 05:11:56 am
How is that deathmatching? Combat, when done correctly, is a normal part of roleplay, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with your logs. Everything leading up to the gunshots had a roleplay reason. Remember that you're playing GTA, not The Sims.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Louis_Smith on August 16, 2012, 05:24:45 am
Corleone became a DM mafia since Old Marlen Members joined it and Violet came active again .
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Meh on August 16, 2012, 05:37:42 am
Chazy got Raped by a black dude  :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: JDC on August 16, 2012, 05:52:56 am
If this is a reason to leave Argonath, then I would suggest watching My Little Pony instead of playing GTA games.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: SugarD on August 16, 2012, 06:13:20 am
Also why I will not be playing Argonath again.

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* We meet on the Grant Bridge *

[17:11:41] Violet_Corleone(59) says: So,

[17:11:48] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You wanted meeting?

* Close to 10 people at this point are in a limo and Buffalo *


[17:12:16] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Yes, I thought this was going to be a smaller meeting than this

[17:12:43] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: However, I would like to resolve this hostility between our families

* Make that 11.  vvv
*

[17:13:27] (NK)Andreas(60) says: Hey fellas

[17:13:36] (NK)Andreas(60) says: Thanks for the ride

[17:13:43] (NK)Andreas(60) says: Theres my plane ;p


[17:13:56] Marcell_Corleone(69) turns off the engine of their vehicle.

[17:14:02] Joe_Corleone.(46) opens door.

[17:14:05] Marcell_Corleone(69) opens up the door

[17:14:08] Rapture_Corleone(6) steps out and nods


*Gets in a boat and goes to large ship*


[17:16:58] Climbing up Time = 5 seconds

[17:17:04] You should be able to move now but if you still can't, try using /thawme


*We go down into the hull of the ship*


[17:19:03] Joe_Corleone.(46) takes out a cuban

[17:19:06] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: You got a light?

[17:19:12] Marcell_Corleone(69) says: Yeah

[17:19:15] Joe_Corleone.(46) holds up his cigar

[17:19:22] Marcell_Corleone(69) lights Joe's cigar using his own cigar...

[17:19:28] Joe_Corleone.(46) puffs

[17:19:29] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: Thanks

[17:19:36] Joe_Corleone. uses a cigar.

[17:19:37] Violet_Corleone(59) shouts: Take a seat!!

[17:19:41] Animation applied.

[17:19:53] Violet_Corleone(59) says: So.

[17:19:57] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You want a meeting?

[17:20:01] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You got one.

[17:20:10] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Thank you.

[17:20:13] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Now, I can offer you a ceasefire.

[17:20:19] Violet_Corleone(59) says: But I want something back.

[17:20:46] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: A Truce?

[17:20:47] Violet_Corleone(59) says: What do you have to say?

[17:21:03] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I think you heard me wrong.

[17:21:13] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: What do you want for this Cease Fire?

[17:21:16] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I can offer a ceasefire, but I want something in return.

[17:21:25] Violet_Corleone(59) says: What do you have to say?

[17:21:54] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Lets hear your terms, and we can discuss option further.

[17:22:12] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I don't think you're in a situation to be discussing, to be frank.

[17:22:19] Violet_Corleone(59) has a look around.


*9 - 12 Corleone Associates.*


[17:22:29] Joe_Corleone.(46) looks at Andreas.

[17:22:35] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Anyway, I'll be quick.

[17:22:37] Joe_Corleone.(46) motions to conceal his weapon

[17:22:47] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I heard you guys are fond of drugs.

[17:22:57] (NK)Andreas(60) says: Is felling left out in terms of fashion

[17:23:48] Violet_Corleone(59) coughs.

[17:23:48] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: We do make money through the transaction of Illegal Narcotics.

[17:23:48] (NK)Andreas(60) Gets a very innaporpriate and not needed erection

[17:24:21] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Is that heroin and weed?

[17:24:22] (NK)Andreas(60) Ahh people are looking at me just act natural andreas

[17:24:29] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Yes.

[17:24:36] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Okay.

[17:24:40] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I do a deal with you.

[17:24:58] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Three kilos of weed and two batches of heroin in exchange for a truce.

[17:25:15] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: What defines a batch?

[17:25:17] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Otherwise we'll leave your body for the fish to eat.

[17:25:23] Violet_Corleone(59) says: A thousand needles.

[17:25:36] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Who knows, maybe I will be impressed and ally.

[17:25:42] Please, in grams for game purposes. (Patrick_Sivero(8))

[17:25:48] 2000 (Marcell_Corleone(69))

[17:25:55] 2k heroin 3k weed (Joe_Corleone.(46))

[17:25:59] Thanks. (Patrick_Sivero(8))

[17:26:39] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: As you may or may not have noticed, We are having an issue coming up with any narcotics at this time.

[17:26:41] Violet_Corleone(59) looks at his watch.

[17:26:48] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I don't like issues.

[17:26:54] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Just tell me yes or no.

[17:27:05] Joe_Corleone.(46) Removes his Glock.

[17:27:16] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You'll have more than issues if you're wasting my time.

[17:27:17] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: The answer is, truthfully, I cannot make a guarantee to come up with this narcotics.

[17:27:31] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: I came to be peaceful. For the sake of YairSForza

[17:27:58] Violet_Corleone(59) says: And why is that?

[17:28:15] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: We are, As i said, looking to be an ally of SForza.

[17:28:39] Violet_Corleone(59) says: And the drugs are worth being f**ked over by us and Sforza?

[17:28:51] Violet_Corleone(59) says: And the drugs aren't worth being f**ked over by us and Sforza? **

[17:28:57] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Im saying it is not possible to obtain in any time frame.

[17:29:04] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Your call, first you will die.

[17:29:08] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Then the others.

[17:29:19] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Do i get one last phone call?

[17:29:29] Violet_Corleone(59) says: To who?

[17:29:49] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Just to say goodbye.

[17:29:55] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: To my boss.

[17:30:01] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Number?

[17:30:18] Use /getphone [id]

[17:30:27] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Number of boss?

[17:30:29] Players with this name: Toxic_Sivero(77)

[17:30:33] Phone number of Toxic_Sivero(77) is: 459140

[17:30:38] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: 459140

[17:30:51] Violet_Corleone(59) takes out a phone.

[17:31:00] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Hello

[17:31:02] Joe_Corleone.(46) looks at Patrick

[17:31:06] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: You can remain seated.

[17:31:06] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Mr Corleone.

[17:31:10] Animation applied.

[17:31:56] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):I offered him a truce if you can provide me 3k weed and 2k heroin.

[17:32:07] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):And I will speak to Sforza so you can ally too.

[17:32:19] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):But he says that it will be hard.

[17:32:33] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Do you not have 3k weed and 2k heroin?

[17:33:05] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Yes, I expect it in return for Corleone not to f**k you up into 2013.

[17:33:30] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Otherwise you will be Sforza enemies too.

[17:34:04] Marcell_Corleone(69) drops the finished cigar on the ground stomping on it.

[17:34:06] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Looks like you don't know how to do business.

[17:34:16] Patrick_Sivero(8) hangs his head.

[17:34:34] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Do you not have that much in store as leader...?

[17:34:43] Marcell_Corleone(69) takes a small canteen from his pocket and drinks a sip of vodka

[17:34:45] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):I have trials with more than that.

[17:35:25] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):What do you mean?

[17:35:41] (NK)Andreas(60) leans and stays off his gurad like all good Guradsmen

[17:35:42] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Where are you at the moment?

[17:36:18] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Come down to San Fierro.

[17:36:22] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):With the drugs.

[17:36:56] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Enlighten me.

[17:37:14] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):What quantity of drugs do you have?

[17:37:55] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Well either you comply, or your friend here dies.

[17:37:59] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Okay.

[17:38:04] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Wakey wakey.

[17:38:16] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You say you made money from the drugs?

[17:38:27] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Yes.

[17:38:38] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Okay, I want the monetary value of the drugs.

[17:38:38] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: We collect, And Sell.

[17:38:52] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Im afraid those vary and aren't consistant.

[17:38:57] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I will accept half a million dollars.

[17:39:10] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):I will accept half a million dollars.

[17:39:14] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: What about $38,000?

[17:39:23] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Because I have that much cash.

[17:39:25] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):As your 'Elite' guy says you make money from the drugs.

[17:39:29] Violet_Corleone(59) shouts: Haha!!

[17:39:53] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You can get the drugs I want for that much?

[17:40:06] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: No.

[17:40:10] Violet_Corleone(59) says: If you can I will offer alliance right now.

[17:40:14] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Well then.

[17:40:29] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I need enough money to make 3k weed and 2k heroin.

[17:40:33] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Come down here.

[17:40:39] Marcell_Corleone(69) raises his jacket behind his back reaching something as he keeps holding it, but without doing any movemen

[17:40:39] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Come alone.

[17:40:44] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Security is high.

[17:40:52] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Ok ))

[17:41:00] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: What happened to Peaceful conversation?

[17:41:11] Violet_Corleone(59) says: This isn't peaceful?

[17:41:24] Marcell_Corleone(69) says: You're not bleeding yet so...

[17:41:28] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Giving me an option that is not possible, for exchange of my life?

[17:41:29] Joe_Corleone.(46) looks at the boss.

[17:41:33] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: Want me top side boss?

[17:41:37] Violet_Corleone(59) says: It's not possible?

[17:42:02] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: I come hoping to bring peace, and you bring extortion, and a 'hostage-like' situation?

[17:42:20] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: You say come alone, You bring 10 guys

[17:42:22] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I thought you weren't getting people from Pizza Hut as members.

[17:42:39] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: The members we have are not average joes.

[17:42:48] Violet_Corleone(59) says: And you're telling me between ALL of you don't have 2k heroin and 3k weed.

[17:42:54] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Is this some kind of joke?

[17:43:07] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: No, we sell all narcotics.

[17:43:17] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Hell

[17:43:23] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: And not to make excuses, but HA has caused a few bumps.

[17:43:27] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Xommer Petrol Station.

[17:43:33] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):See, I don't like them either.

[17:43:45] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Get me the drugs and I will help you out with them atleast.

[17:43:52] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Okay.

[17:44:21] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: i cannot get 100g of Heroin without HA gone.

[17:44:52] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Your ride is coming.

[17:44:59] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: They claim to own the heroin trade in San Andreas.

[17:45:31] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Haha.

[17:45:38] Violet_Corleone(59) says: And weed?

[17:45:46] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Get me 5k weed and I'll call it a deal.

[17:46:01] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Or half a million dollars, after all you say you sell all your drugs.

[17:46:38] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: I appreciate your consideration of our dilemma, however, I do not have a half of a million dollars, or

[17:46:51] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: or 3000g of weed.

[17:47:05] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: At what point did i say i made millions off of selling drugs?

[17:47:20] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You all together don't have it?

[17:47:21] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: I collect what I can, and sell it.

[17:47:32] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: No. We don't.

[17:47:33] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You want an alliance with Sforza and you don't have 500k?

[17:47:59] Marcell_Corleone(69) says: The motorcycle clubs are wealthier than you....

[17:48:09] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: That may be true.

[17:48:28] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):They are en-route.

[17:48:49] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: This 'peaceful' conversation is counter-productive.

[17:48:52] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Two minutes.

[17:48:57] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Is there another option?

[17:48:57] Violet_Corleone(59) says: And you propose?

[17:49:39] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Perhaps we can make another arrangement.

[17:49:46] Violet_Corleone(59) says: And you propose?

[17:50:17] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Where exactly are you?

[17:50:40] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Right.

[17:50:43] Violet_Corleone(59) says: So?

[17:50:45] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Right now we do not have much, thats why we are seeking alliance.

[17:50:54] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):You need resources first.

[17:51:01] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):Half a million is not a lot.

[17:51:03] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: We are new to San Andreas.

[17:51:20] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: I have only been in town myself for 2 weeks.

[17:51:55] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Your boss is coming.

[17:53:07] Toxic_Sivero(77) climbs the ladder

[17:54:54] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Take a seat in the middle.

[17:54:54] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: Boss.

[17:54:58] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: You're vistor.

[17:54:58] Violet_Corleone(59) nods.

[17:55:14] Violet_Corleone(59) says: So.

[17:55:23] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: Yes, Ma'am?

[17:55:27] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You can get me 500k or 5k of drugs.

[17:55:55] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: Firstly, I would like to know what started this?

[17:56:04] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: As to why we are enemies in the first place

[17:56:11] Violet_Corleone(59) has a look at Patrick.

[17:56:19] Violet_Corleone(59) says: No point looking at that.

[17:56:23] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Your concern is ending it.

[17:56:54] Violet_Corleone(59) says: How much can you afford to pay out?

[17:56:59] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: Well, regarding the drugs

[17:57:11] Patrick_Sivero(8) hangs his head.

[17:57:21] Toxic_Sivero(77) gave a condom to Violet_Corleone(59).

[17:57:22] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: Or, you can go f**k yourself and accept my other gift.

[17:57:35] Joe_Corleone.(46) removes his Glock.

[17:57:38] Violet_Corleone(59) says: How much can you afford to pay out?

[17:57:47] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Do not piss me off, it won't end for you.

[17:57:50] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: As many condoms as you can hold up your ass

[17:57:53] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Do not piss me off, it won't end well for you.

[17:58:03] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I offered a reasonable solution.

[17:58:03] Joe_Corleone.(46) glares.


[17:58:08] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: Nothing ever ends well in the island of San Fierro

[17:58:10] (NK)Andreas(60) shouts: GUNSHOTS !!!

* Blazer_Sivero and Chazy_Sivero crashed the meeting. *


[17:58:18] [EAF]Admantis(18) whispers: oh lawd

[17:58:24] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You realise HA will be friends with us?

[17:58:37] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You can kiss goodbye to any drug dealing in San Andreas.

[17:58:38] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: You realise that one could not care?

[17:58:41] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: No they wont, as they are teamed with Luciano.

[17:58:45] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: and I know they have 4 members

[17:58:51] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: So here's a johnny for each

[17:58:54] Toxic_Sivero(77) gave 4 condoms to Violet_Corleone(59).

[17:59:04] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: Now kindly, go f**k yourself.

[17:59:07] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Rest in peace then.

[17:59:08] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Luciano and SForza, who you are partnered with, will not ever happen.

[17:59:24] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: RIP, I'll get used to that one day.



[17:59:58] Joe_Corleone.(46) grabs both of them by the shirt.

[18:00:25] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: On your knees.

[18:00:29] Rapture_Corleone gave [EAF]Admantis a MP5 with 70 ammunition.

[18:00:32] Toxic_Sivero(77) gave a condom to Joe_Corleone.(46).

[18:00:34] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Follow your boss.

[18:00:41] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: This is very productive i might add.

[18:00:56] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: On your knees.

[18:01:12] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: I wont die on my knees.

[18:01:17] Violet_Corleone(59) takes out his condoms.

[18:01:21] [EAF]Admantis(18) looks at the victims and smiles

[18:01:22] Violet_Corleone(59) hands one to the two guys.

[18:01:22] Joe_Corleone.(46) kicks the man in the back of his knees

[18:01:29] Violet_Corleone(59) gave a condom to Toxic_Sivero(77).

[18:01:32] You received a condom from Violet_Corleone(59).

[18:01:38] Rapture_Corleone(6) reloads his SMG.


[18:01:42] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-008.png


[18:01:42] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: I have a feeling I'm about to be raped.


[18:01:57] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-009.png


[18:02:06] Joe_Corleone.(46) cuts of Patrick clothing

[18:02:11] William_Corleone gave Violet_Corleone a Knife


[18:02:19] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-010.png


[18:02:19] Joe_Corleone.(46) cuts of Toxic clothing


[18:02:23] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-011.png


[18:02:28] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: please

[18:02:35] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: Go into the corner

* Blazer and Chazy try to escape. Chazy is returned. *


[18:02:53] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: really + youre cuffed ))

[18:03:10] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: Move it youre motherf**king bad girl

[18:03:11] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: Utilize those condoms.

[18:03:14] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) pushes Chazy


[18:03:24] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-012.png


[18:03:27] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) drags of chazy's pants


[18:03:33] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-013.png


[18:03:33] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: dude

[18:03:34] Violet_Corleone(59) observes the two naked individuals backed up against the wall.


[18:03:40] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-014.png


[18:03:40] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) cuts up his underwear

[18:03:42] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: Your going to rape me?


[18:03:46] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-015.png


[18:03:52] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: ahhhhh

[18:03:53] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: up against the wall



[18:04:06] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-016.png


[18:04:09] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) pushes the white man up against the wall

[18:04:17] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) takes a steady grip onto his neck


[18:04:24] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-017.png


[18:04:24] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) a grip that will leave marks

[18:04:31] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) steadly unsipz his pants


[18:04:34] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-018.png


[18:04:39] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) wanks up his large black cock

[18:04:43] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: nooo


[18:04:47] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-019.png

* Blazer returns. *


[18:04:47] Blazer_Sivero(63) shouts: Alright listen us ladies!!

[18:04:47] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) pushes the cock inside his asshole

[18:04:51] Blazer_Sivero(63) Takes out a grenade

[18:04:54] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) begins to f**k the son of a bad girl

[18:04:59] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: Motherf**ker are you happy now?

[18:04:59] Blazer_Sivero(63) Takes out the pin and holds itr


[18:05:02] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-020.png


[18:05:03] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: what the shit!!

[18:05:12] Blazer_Sivero(63) shouts: I will drop this shit if i die!!

[18:05:12] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) pushes the shit out of chazys ass


[18:05:17] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-021.png


[18:05:20] Toxic_Sivero(77) whispers: Ey' Patrick, I think this Frank kid is a homo. Good job CJ doesn't know him.

[18:05:20] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: Oh yeah, youre litle white boy

[18:05:33] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) pushes the dick deep inside his asshole to make it bleed


[18:05:39] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-022.png


[18:05:39] Blazer_Sivero(63) shouts: Let them go and you we all live!!

[18:05:39] Chazy_Sivero(3) shouts: aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!

[18:05:44] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) drags the cock out and wanks abit

[18:05:48] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) cums all over his ass

[18:05:49] William_Corleone(53) says: You two


[18:05:56] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-023.png


[18:05:56] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: ahhh

[18:05:57] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) kicks him agains the corner

[18:06:06] Joe_Corleone.(46) shouts: I'd suggest you throw that the other way pal.!!

[18:06:14] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: We all know you don't want to die.

[18:06:16] Blazer_Sivero(63) says: You shoot me and ile drop it

[18:06:17] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) zips his pants

*Meanwhile..

[18:06:17] PM to TheRock(44): Is Rape in RP allowed?


[18:06:21] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: I'm not sure you're boss would be all that happy either.

[18:06:22] Violet_Corleone(59) says: hello?


[18:06:28] PM from TheRock(44): If both 'parties' agree yea.


[18:06:30] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: Oh, hi

[18:06:33] Blazer_Sivero(63) shouts: ALL OF YOU ile drop this shit!!

[18:06:36] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: again *sighs*

[18:06:39] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You two going to do something?

[18:06:41] (NK)Andreas(60) shouts: Lets give em a good hiding lads!!

[18:06:43] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: this aint right

[18:06:53] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: What's the point?

[18:06:54] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I was hoping your member would see you guys mate.

[18:07:03] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: I dont like this.

[18:07:07] [EAF]Admantis(18) kicks Chazy on the groin.

[18:07:09] Rapture_Corleone(6) kicks the guy on the floor and chuckles

[18:07:09] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: Mate? We aren't animals.

[18:07:10] Blazer_Sivero(63) Grips the grenada tightly

[18:07:12] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: all i can say is

[18:07:12] Violet_Corleone(59) says: Didn't think you would.

[18:07:17] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: Welcome to angel pine

[18:07:17] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: I do not agree with the raping.

[18:07:37] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: I'd highly suggest you not do anything stupid.

[18:07:39] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You'll be raping each other or I will kill you both in front of your member and record it.

[18:07:39] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: Tell me, Violet, are all of your men homo's, do you rape all of your victims?

[18:07:42] (NK)Andreas(60) says: Gets his knife close to chazys balls and asks "Do you plan on having kids ?"

[18:07:44] Rapture_Corleone(6) kicks Chazy again

[18:07:47] [EAF]Admantis(18) says: little white boy

[18:07:50] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: It takes atleast 10 sec for a grenade to blow up after the pin is released.

[18:07:55] I do not agree with raping. (Patrick_Sivero(8))

[18:07:56] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: That gives us 10 sec to throw it away.

[18:08:01] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: Not cool man

[18:08:01] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: and 10 sec, to kill you.

[18:08:04] I ain't raping you lol (Violet_Corleone(59))

[18:08:07] Joe_Corleone.(46) says: Think real hard about what your doing.

[18:08:09] Blazer_Sivero(63) says: Im an expert and ive cut the fuse wire

[18:08:17] Chazy_Sivero(3) drops crack rock

[18:08:19] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: shit

[18:08:21] I never said just me. My Girlfriend was raped. (Patrick_Sivero(8))

[18:08:25] Toxic_Sivero used some heroin, better lay off the drugs.

[18:08:33] Blazer_Sivero(63) shouts: Motherf**king Corleones listen up bad girles!!

[18:08:36] Toxic_Sivero(77) whispers: gooooood sheeet

[18:08:39] Ok so you can do it yourselves...? (Violet_Corleone(59))

[18:08:43] You received a gram of heroin from Toxic_Sivero(77).

[18:08:44] [EAF]Admantis(18) fails.

[18:08:44] Blazer_Sivero(63) shouts: Ile drop this grenade on your heads!!

[18:08:44] not in a good/video game way. (Patrick_Sivero(8))

[18:08:54] Patrick_Sivero used some heroin, better lay off the drugs.

[18:08:55] Blazer_Sivero(63) shouts: Let them go!!

[18:09:01] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: DROP THE f**kING GRENADE

[18:09:04] Chazy_Sivero(3) shouts: Blazer think about us!!

[18:09:09] Chazy_Sivero(3) shouts: You kill us all!!

[18:09:13] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: YOU GONNA BLOW UP YOURE FRIEND?

[18:09:13] Blazer_Sivero(63) shouts: f**k that Chazy we all die !!

[18:09:14] Toxic_Sivero(77) says: I hope this shit kills me

[18:09:16] Violet_Corleone(59) says: I propose you two start doing something or your members die.

[18:09:19] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: stupid cunt

[18:09:25] Chazy_Sivero(3) shouts: dont be stupid!!

[18:09:26] Blazer_Sivero(63) shouts: Stay the f**k back or we all die!!

[18:09:29] Violet_Corleone(59) drags Chazy towards himself.

[18:09:50] 8th.Frank_Castro(64) says: get down there

[18:10:05] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Hows your asshole Chazy?

[18:10:09] Blazer_Sivero(63) says: And none of you are intrested in the Rp, Whatever im done here.

[18:10:13] Chazy_Sivero(3) says: i dont want to talk about it

[18:10:22] (NK)Andreas(60) shouts: Siveros hands up!!

[18:10:26] Animation applied.


[18:10:49] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-024.png


[18:10:49] (NK)Andreas(60) says: I got no smg :(

[18:10:49] Rapture_Corleone(6) turns the safety off on his SMG


[18:10:53] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-025.png


[18:10:54] Violet_Corleone(59) shouts: Are you ready?!!


[18:10:58] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-026.png


[18:11:04] (NK)Andreas(60) says: Ok thanks man

[18:11:09] Chazy_Sivero(3) shouts: are you ready mother f**kers!!

[18:11:09] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Yeah im ready.

[18:11:11] Rapture_Corleone(6) shouts: Yes sir!!

[18:11:13] [EAF]Admantis(18) shouts: kurwa!!

[18:11:25] Rush over, that felt good

* All shot execution style. Chazy fights back with Combat shotgun. *


[18:11:30] <Patrick_Sivero> (8) Sweet

[18:11:39] <Patrick_Sivero> (8) I love being murdered

[18:11:49] <Patrick_Sivero> (8) Good RP Corleones

Don't base your fun, or lack thereof, on just one experience. There's many things you can do to have fun in this community. :)
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Patrick_Sivero on August 16, 2012, 07:13:58 am
This all started because of a shootout that allegedly started because a Sivero member refused to stop his car when asked by a Corleone member 'because he wanted to buy some weed.'

4 of our members were tempbanned anywhere from 60 to 20 minutes for various reasons, one of which being deathmatching, as we tried to discuss the reason for the shootout.

Later we tried to settle it peacefully, and this happened. It results in deathmatching later on. I am not saying this incident was deathmatching. It just fuels the fire.

Another unrelated incident occurred last night where I was jailed for someone else ramming my firetruck (on the way to a fire), and died because their car exploded, and was auto-suspected, making it appear as if I had murdered them. The police, FBI, and admins all doubted that I was telling the truth.

If this is a reason to leave Argonath, then I would suggest watching My Little Pony instead of playing GTA games.

Comments from administration like this also do not help.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: SugarD on August 16, 2012, 07:26:57 am
This all started because of a shootout that allegedly started because a Sivero member refused to stop his car when asked by a Corleone member 'because he wanted to buy some weed.'

4 of our members were tempbanned anywhere from 60 to 20 minutes for various reasons, one of which being deathmatching, as we tried to discuss the reason for the shootout.

Later we tried to settle it peacefully, and this happened. It results in deathmatching later on. I am not saying this incident was deathmatching. It just fuels the fire.

Another unrelated incident occurred last night where I was jailed for someone else ramming my firetruck (on the way to a fire), and died because their car exploded, and was auto-suspected, making it appear as if I had murdered them. The police, FBI, and admins all doubted that I was telling the truth.

Comments from administration like this also do not help.
I understand your frustration man. Sometimes things happen that make for a really ****ty week. :lol:

As for the Fire Engine/suspection incident, did you happen to grab any screens? When stuff like that happens, a good tip is to always F8 screenshot it. It's your proof of your innocence that will protect you should an admin question the situation.
I know I'm not much help for this scenario, but if you have issues in the future with Fire Duty-related stuff, let me know by shooting me a PM. I want everyone to have a fun experience when they play that career field in Argo. :)
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Patrick_Sivero on August 16, 2012, 07:47:25 am
No. I thought people would see I had a legit story..

Ive been registered since August 2nd.. How am I supposed to know that someone pulling a stupid stunt like that should be thoroughly documented? If thats the case, Ill go reformat my NAS Server, and FRAPS every minute on the server. 

Why should I need to have any proof that some guy did this? An officer saw it, but he 'disappeared', and the Arresting officer also claimed to have saw it, and said my truck also flipped over, and exploded, then I got out of the truck and shot him while he was in LS, and it happened in LV.

Loads of little things. They weigh you down. Even in something thats supposed to be enjoyable.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Huntsman on August 16, 2012, 08:58:28 am
Everything was done correctly and in roleplay. If you dont like it, i suggest you play this game instead

: http://www.thesims3.com/ (http://www.thesims3.com/)
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Julio. on August 16, 2012, 09:14:40 am
Your friend told them to basically 'go and get assfucked'

Sorry for being blunt, but he did, I am surprised they did not kill you earlier.

Quote
[17:39:14] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: What about $38,000?

[17:39:23] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: Because I have that much cash.

[17:39:25] Violet_Corleone(59) says(phone):As your 'Elite' guy says you make money from the drugs.

[17:39:29] Violet_Corleone(59) shouts: Haha!!

[17:39:53] Violet_Corleone(59) says: You can get the drugs I want for that much?

[17:40:06] Patrick_Sivero(8) says: No.

[17:40:10] Violet_Corleone(59) says: If you can I will offer alliance right now.

This was your 'get out the situation alive' card.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Patrick_Sivero on August 16, 2012, 09:23:49 am
Your friend told them to basically 'go and get assf**ked'

Sorry for being blunt, but he did, I am surprised they did not kill you earlier.

This was your 'get out the situation alive' card.

The only reason he (Toxic, The Boss) did that was because he felt their demands were absurd. He was upset, and didn't take kindly to it, even though I told him to relax.

If by 'get out of situation alive' card you mean digging yourself into a deeper grave.

Siveros did not seek Alliance with Corleone. Just to become neutral. Instead, it caused much bigger problems for the 2 families, and possibly their alliance with someone else.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Huntsman on August 16, 2012, 09:25:32 am
What did you expect, when your immature boss came and told them to fuck themselves in the ass, sending them some condoms, when they were outnumbered...?
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Patrick_Sivero on August 16, 2012, 09:26:41 am
What did you expect, when your immature boss came and told them to f**k themselves in the ass, sending them some condoms, when they were outnumbered...?

Just saw that on the last post.

I told him not to do that. He felt it was appropriate. There may be internal problems now.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Huntsman on August 16, 2012, 09:45:34 am
Just saw that on the last post.

I told him not to do that. He felt it was appropriate. There may be internal problems now.

Thats why you dont join the family if the boss is a complete jackass
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Patrick_Sivero on August 16, 2012, 09:49:51 am
Thats why you dont join the family if the boss is a complete jackass

Point taken. Just note, those are your words, not mine.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Orel on August 16, 2012, 09:56:16 am
This wasn't a DM at all, as alot said before this is San Andreas and not The Sims.

Corleone became a DM mafia since Old Marlen Members joined it and Violet came active again .
Sure thing bro.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Patrick_Sivero on August 16, 2012, 09:59:31 am
This wasn't a DM at all, as alot said before this is San Andreas and not The Sims.
Sure thing bro.

If you would read the whole topic you would see I have already stated I think twice now.

And for a third time (i think), what i posted was not DM, i know this.

But this was over something we never got a real reason for. It all doesn't matter, there will be no flaming, name calling or finger pointing in this thread.  This is just simply my outlook on what causes problems on the server.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Frank_Hawk on August 16, 2012, 10:25:57 am
DM never ends, because the same repeat offenders are unbanned which enables the vicious cycle to repeat.

The solution is to permanently ban repeat offenders.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Richard. on August 16, 2012, 11:02:40 am
Corleone became a DM mafia since Old Marlen Members joined it and Violet came active again .
There's no any ex-Marlen in this situation which engages Patrick in. :rofl:
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Gandalf on August 16, 2012, 11:24:01 am
DM never ends, because the same repeat offenders are unbanned which enables the vicious cycle to repeat.

The solution is to permanently ban repeat offenders.
The solution is to ban those who have the potential to teach, but prefer to disrupt.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Salmonella on August 16, 2012, 11:51:30 am
Patrick, if you leave after just a single shootout that didn't go your way, then I don't think Argonath, or any roleplay server for that matter, will be right for you. There will be times when you just lose, this was one of them, and from what these logs show me, there was no rulebreaking involved.

Corleone became a DM mafia since Old Marlen Members joined it and Violet came active again .

That is quite an accusation. I've known Violet for a very long time, and think it's great to see him ingame every once in a while. He's a good roleplayer and a good guy overall. I don't know who you are, nor do I know what makes you say stuff like this. I've also had many roleplay with Marlen in the past, being both on their side and their enemies' side, and I'm pretty sure I've never seen deathmatch from them. When they wanted to assasinate me, Richard actually did a pretty good job in convincing me to come over. I didn't expect to get ambushed by ten Marlen members, but hey, it was good roleplay.

DM never ends, because the same repeat offenders are unbanned which enables the vicious cycle to repeat.

The solution is to permanently ban repeat offenders.

I don't think you'd be able to play here anymore if we were to be such an unforgiving community.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Ricardo. on August 16, 2012, 11:53:13 am
The solution is to ban those who have the potential to teach, but prefer to disrupt.
How those can teach new players if even admins don't know how to evaluate their work?

Corleone became a DM mafia since Old Marlen Members joined it and Violet came active again .
No. Marlen was a good rp mafia even if whole of these shootouts they had.

If this is a reason to leave Argonath, then I would suggest watching My Little Pony instead of playing GTA games.
This rude reply wasn't needed at all. You're a part of the administration, you should help and listen the players and not to mock them. If you were able to do your job properly, you would know he's a new player and he doesn't know how the things are here, not even the scenarios he's in.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Frank_Hawk on August 16, 2012, 11:54:51 am
The solution is to ban those who have the potential to teach, but prefer to disrupt.

The solution is to educate those who have the potential to improve the stale atmosphere.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Gandalf on August 16, 2012, 12:12:35 pm
[noae]
How those can teach new players if even admins don't know how to evaluate their work?

[/noae]They can, but they prefer not to. That is IMHO a larger crime as any DM.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Gandalf on August 16, 2012, 12:13:39 pm
The solution is to educate those who have the potential to improve the stale atmosphere.
Before that we will first thwo out those who try to undermine any teaching by knowingly setting a wrong example.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Morais on August 16, 2012, 12:35:18 pm
Why are you going to leave Argonath... just change name and go on firefighter duty, just giving an example.. you have thousands of roles that you can perform, don't hold yourself only into one that.. as I read you don't like it that much.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Kirgiz on August 16, 2012, 12:57:50 pm
That is one of the poorest RPs i've ever seen.

Post Merge: August 16, 2012, 01:02:17 pm
DM never ends, because the same repeat offenders are unbanned which enables the vicious cycle to repeat.

And that, coming from you? Seriously?!
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: ClazzyJogel on August 16, 2012, 02:05:55 pm
If this is a reason to leave Argonath, then I would suggest watching My Little Pony instead of playing GTA games.

And I would suggest you to grow up.
Your comment didnt help anyone.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Ramo_Hawk on August 16, 2012, 02:08:43 pm
And that, coming from you? Seriously?!

"And that, coming from you?"
If he was a DMer you think he would still be playing?

Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Gandalf on August 16, 2012, 02:13:33 pm
"And that, coming from you?"
If he was a DMer you think he would still be playing?
yes.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Ramo_Hawk on August 16, 2012, 02:18:03 pm
yes.

Have you seen the administrators? Basically if you just shoot a bullet in the air for nothing, you will end up jailed/kicked/tempbanned/banned. And they're all just spectating Idlewood.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Salmonella on August 16, 2012, 02:23:29 pm
Have you seen the administrators? Basically if you just shoot a bullet in the air for nothing, you will end up jailed/kicked/tempbanned/banned. And they're all just spectating Idlewood.

You're talking shit. Literally.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Gandalf on August 16, 2012, 02:25:16 pm
Have you seen the administrators? Basically if you just shoot a bullet in the air for nothing, you will end up jailed/kicked/tempbanned/banned. And they're all just spectating Idlewood.
Then they are doing a good job.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Devin on August 16, 2012, 02:26:13 pm
Corleone became a DM mafia since Old Marlen Members joined it and Violet came active again .

If you insist, and you're not exactly a prime example either.  :lol:
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Ramo_Hawk on August 16, 2012, 02:33:11 pm
You're talking shit. Literally.

Well, that is your opinion. I only said what I've said because administrators only are spectating the ballas like the usual cops do.. The cops camp at Idlewood to wait for something us ( gangsters ), do something illegal so they can jump on us and jail/kill us. The administrators do the same thing. I am not talking about the whole admin teams, but few of them do that and instead of warning the cops for abusing us, they warn us for trying to defend ourselves. I've been getting warnings in my /pm from high ranked cops to stand up for the ballas because they found themselves that there are cops abusing. All I'm saying is that the admins watch the actual DMers too but not always do their job. If Frank_Hawk was a DMer, he would already gotten punished.

"Yes" - Gandalf

So you allow deathmatchers play?
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Gandalf on August 16, 2012, 02:35:51 pm


"Yes" - Gandalf

So you allow deathmatchers play?
We allow everyone to play, as long as they follow our rules.
It does not matter if you are a DMer, SRSRPer or noob.

Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: ClazzyJogel on August 16, 2012, 02:37:09 pm
Whats wrong with cops camping at Idlewood? I do it all the time.
"To serve and protect"
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Conroy on August 16, 2012, 02:38:13 pm
I think you're butt hurt, Ramo
Not my fault you were opening fire on civilians

Quite ironic that your punishment history mostly contains deathmatching
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Devin on August 16, 2012, 02:38:22 pm
We allow everyone to play, as long as they follow our rules.
It does not matter if you are a DMer, SRSRPer or noob.

I've told you to be a good Gandalf and not refer to people as noobs!  :ban:
To Isengard with you!
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Ramo_Hawk on August 16, 2012, 02:42:09 pm
We allow everyone to play, as long as they follow our rules.
It does not matter if you are a DMer, SRSRPer or noob.

"We allow everyone to play, as long as they follow our rules."
"It does not matter if you are a DMer"
- Since when is DMing is not against the rules?

We allow everyone to play, as long as they follow our rules.
It does not matter if you are a DMer, SRSRPer or noob.

Because that way, you don't allow gangsters to roleplay. After all we are on a roleplay server.
When cops camp at Idlewood, we cannot do anything with them around.. if we go purchase some armors, the whole SAPD would be called to follow us.

I think you're butt hurt, Ramo
Not my fault you were opening fire on civilians

Quite ironic that your punishment history mostly contains deathmatching

So what they're civilians? They have trepassed the line by flaming at gangsters, its roleplay. We roleplay as gangsters. Imagine theres a hood filled with gangsters nearby and you go in it and start flaming them, they will all end up shooting at you.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: ClazzyJogel on August 16, 2012, 02:43:14 pm
Also Gandalf I want you to clarify one thing.

If I am standing at Idlewood suspecting a balla, does that give the balla a right to shoot me?

Because deathmatching is shooting without a RP reason, therefor shooting for being suspected is deathmatching right?
A SAPD officer told me that it is DM if they do, so im confused.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Ramo_Hawk on August 16, 2012, 02:46:19 pm
Also Gandalf I want you to clarify one thing.

If I am standing at Idlewood suspecting a balla, does that give the balla a right to shoot me?

Because deathmatching is shooting without a RP reason, therefor being suspected and shooting cops for that reason is DM?
A SAPD officer told me that, so im confused.

No it doesn't but if you point a gun towards him, attack him or offend him by anything, he have the rights to shoot you. And if the player engages you to tell you leaving his hood, that doesn't mean you can /su him because he is telling you to do something. + The cops are always telling everyone to remove their guns, if you own the gun legally, you're allowed to keep it in your hands.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Devin on August 16, 2012, 02:47:44 pm
If you suspect one, and another shoots you that isn't suspected, it's death-matching and you should report the one who shot you without even being a suspect.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Ramo_Hawk on August 16, 2012, 02:50:01 pm
If you suspect one, and another shoots you that isn't suspected, it's death-matching and you should report the one who shot you without even being a suspect.

Indeed. Unless they're inside their Mafia's HQ, then the civilians can shoot too. ( Rules )
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Gandalf on August 16, 2012, 02:58:32 pm
"We allow everyone to play, as long as they follow our rules."
"It does not matter if you are a DMer"
- Since when is DMing is not against the rules?
Read carefully. It does not matter if you are a DMer, as long as you follow the rules. That includes having a roleplay reason to attack.
Because that way, you don't allow gangsters to roleplay. After all we are on a roleplay server.
When cops camp at Idlewood, we cannot do anything with them around.. if we go purchase some armors, the whole SAPD would be called to follow us.

So what they're civilians? They have trepassed the line by flaming at gangsters, its roleplay. We roleplay as gangsters. Imagine theres a hood filled with gangsters nearby and you go in it and start flaming them, they will all end up shooting at you.
See what you are doing there? You find it ok to shoot at anyone who comes by and is provoked in to flaming you, but find that the presence of cops hinders it.
If you pretend to be an active group that tries to control your hood, the cops have the right to 'lean' on you and disturb any activity. By adjusting your own behaviour to allow others in to the area and interacting with them in a non-DM oriented way, the Government would be less interested to give you attention.
So it is YOUR behaviour that creates what is going on there, not the interested civilians or cops trying to create order in your area.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: ClazzyJogel on August 16, 2012, 03:01:54 pm
No it doesn't but if you point a gun towards him, attack him or offend him by anything, he have the rights to shoot you.

Really? So explain why I get shot by walking unarmed explaining politely to one of your ballas to holster their weapon?

And if the player engages you to tell you leaving his hood, that doesn't mean you can /su him because he is telling you to do something.

And that also doesent mean he can shoot me for being in a public place.

The cops are always telling everyone to remove their guns, if you own the gun legally, you're allowed to keep it in your hands.

Bullshit, everyone can own a legal gun, you are not allowed to keep it in your hands in a public place, even if its in a "gangster hod like idlewood"
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Gandalf on August 16, 2012, 03:03:56 pm
Also Gandalf I want you to clarify one thing.

If I am standing at Idlewood suspecting a balla, does that give the balla a right to shoot me?

Because deathmatching is shooting without a RP reason, therefor shooting for being suspected is deathmatching right?
A SAPD officer told me that it is DM if they do, so im confused.
First of all, you will have to have a valid reason to suspect him. Provocations happen due to their nature, and as law officer you should take that in to account. If they proceed to assault you, or knowingly break the law, you might consider suspecting, but at the same time be wary that you will need backup should they get violent.
If someone gets suspected, they have the choice to fight, flee or give up. If they choose to fight upon suspection, that is not DM, as it is within their choice.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Alsatian on August 16, 2012, 03:04:33 pm
Man, I read the whole thing and that was some intense shit. Seemed like some brilliant roleplay to me.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Gandalf on August 16, 2012, 03:07:21 pm
No it doesn't but if you point a gun towards him, attack him or offend him by anything, he have the rights to shoot you. And if the player engages you to tell you leaving his hood, that doesn't mean you can /su him because he is telling you to do something. + The cops are always telling everyone to remove their guns, if you own the gun legally, you're allowed to keep it in your hands.
If an officer of the law points a gun at you, that does not give you the right to shoot him, nor tell him to leave.
Also please read the constitution where it clearly says you have the right to won and carry guns, but not the right to display them in public.
Indeed. Unless they're inside their Mafia's HQ, then the civilians can shoot too. ( Rules )
However a public street is, was, and will never be a mafia HQ, there for those rules do not apply there.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Ramo_Hawk on August 16, 2012, 03:10:44 pm
See what you are doing there? You find it ok to shoot at anyone who comes by and is provoked in to flaming you, but find that the presence of cops hinders it.
I find it very ok to shoot anyone who flames/provokes me because thats my roleplay character.

If you pretend to be an active group that tries to control your hood, the cops have the right to 'lean' on you and disturb any activity. By adjusting your own behaviour to allow others in to the area and interacting with them in a non-DM oriented way, the Government would be less interested to give you attention.
Everytime anyone tries to roleplay with an officer, the officers just /su and shoot themselves without roleplay and I believe thats forcing roleplay with /su which by the rules it is not allowed. And as everyone keeps yapping about the ballas are DMers because themselves ( other players ) bring the fight with their own hands, and because the ballas have great aim and they end up winning in wars, due to the logs the admins think we are actual Dmers so thats why we all get the blame.

+ Last time I was doing some roleplay with the ballas at Grove Street, and some new player shot at an admin, everyone got temp banned for 15Minutes and because everyone says "Ramo_Hawk is the leader", I got the most blame and got me temp baned for an hour..

If an officer of the law points a gun at you, that does not give you the right to shoot him, nor tell him to leave.
Also please read the constitution where it clearly says you have the right to won and carry guns, but not the right to display them in public.However a public street is, was, and will never be a mafia HQ, there for those rules do not apply there.
I never said it was, I was just explaining to him.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Frank_Hawk on August 16, 2012, 03:15:55 pm
Really? So explain why I get shot by walking unarmed explaining politely to one of your ballas to holster their weapon?

And that also doesent mean he can shoot me for being in a public place.

Bullshit, everyone can own a legal gun, you are not allowed to keep it in your hands in a public place, even if its in a "gangster hod like idlewood"

Officers who approach people with hostility will be met with hostility.

Officers who approach people with calmness will be met with calmness.

The best tips I can give to SAPD officers are:
- Never run when around the suspect, it makes them uneasy.
- Always try to walk when near a suspect, it eases them.
- Never spary a suspect, it irritates them and it's likely they will defend themselves.
- Never approach the area with hostility (i.e. speeding into a crowd, jumping out and running around)
- Try to use animations instead of aiming (i.e. /gunpoint 1)
- Never, ever ask a suspect to surrender using /m1 etc - it makes them uneasy and pressures them into shooting.
- Never 'rambo' a suspect in the midst of other gang members, but instead call for backup.

The best tips I can give to ballas/suspects are:
- Always remain calm when surrounded by officers
- Always use dialogue to negotiate
- Never attack unless shot/sparyed at
- Feel free to add to this section SAPD officers.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Marcell on August 16, 2012, 03:20:51 pm
If you suspect one, and another shoots you that isn't suspected, it's death-matching and you should report the one who shot you without even being a suspect.
remember that gang headquarters like Corleone villa are exception (not GS9 though since its 'too public' as aragorn stated lol), although some admins seem to forget about it since Rydell tempbanned me and Orel for it....

By the way to some guy saying 'IRL IF COPS PROVOKED US GANGSTAS WE'D SHOOT THEM ALL' irl if niggas see a cop car passing by their hood they run as fast as they can thinking they have a warrant to arrest one of them, etc.... at least in USA, after all Iraqwood isn't a brazilian favela


Patrick I suggest you to choose another role in Argonath if you can't handle losing/getting killed as a mafia member. In fact blame it on your immature (in roleplay sense) members who provoked the whole fight, you had your chance to become friends with us by paying 500k yet you have about 5-7 members so that's only like 100,000 per head, then we'd let all the shit go and we would help you in future too most likely.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Orel on August 16, 2012, 03:59:08 pm
remember that gang headquarters like Corleone villa are exception (not GS9 though since its 'too public' as aragorn stated lol), although some admins seem to forget about it since Rydell tempbanned me and Orel for it....

By the way to some guy saying 'IRL IF COPS PROVOKED US GANGSTAS WE'D SHOOT THEM ALL' irl if niggas see a cop car passing by their hood they run as fast as they can thinking they have a warrant to arrest one of them, etc.... at least in USA, after all Iraqwood isn't a brazilian favela


Patrick I suggest you to choose another role in Argonath if you can't handle losing/getting killed as a mafia member. In fact blame it on your immature (in roleplay sense) members who provoked the whole fight, you had your chance to become friends with us by paying 500k yet you have about 5-7 members so that's only like 100,000 per head, then we'd let all the shit go and we would help you in future too most likely.
Well yea me you and more guys got tempbanned for "deathmantching - shooting cops as civilian" - but tbh I didnt shot and Aragorn said we can fire at cops as civilians if we been with them all way long, meaning "cant shoot cops as civilian" is that you cant just drive around see a cop and sus fighting and start helping the sus
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Gandalf on August 16, 2012, 04:01:45 pm
I find it very ok to shoot anyone who flames/provokes me because thats my roleplay character.
You are not allowed to roleplay a DMer.
Everytime anyone tries to roleplay with an officer, the officers just /su and shoot themselves without roleplay and I believe thats forcing roleplay with /su which by the rules it is not allowed. And as everyone keeps yapping about the ballas are DMers because themselves ( other players ) bring the fight with their own hands, and because the ballas have great aim and they end up winning in wars, due to the logs the admins think we are actual Dmers so thats why we all get the blame.
Your above sentence just proved you wrong.

+ Last time I was doing some roleplay with the ballas at Grove Street, and some new player shot at an admin, everyone got temp banned for 15Minutes and because everyone says "Ramo_Hawk is the leader", I got the most blame and got me temp baned for an hour..
I never said it was, I was just explaining to him.
Good. Perhaps you will explain new members the rules better.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Marcell on August 16, 2012, 04:38:34 pm
Well yea me you and more guys got tempbanned for "deathmantching - shooting cops as civilian" - but tbh I didnt shot and Aragorn said we can fire at cops as civilians if we been with them all way long, meaning "cant shoot cops as civilian" is that you cant just drive around see a cop and sus fighting and start helping the sus
That's not even the point since Rydell started shooting first while nobody was doing shit and like I already said it is stated that you can aid if you're non-suspect as long as members of your mafia/gang are together with you in the hq no matter how long u were together and shit I just can't find the post since the topic has like 80 pages
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: SkyHawk on August 16, 2012, 04:45:47 pm
I don't recall every spectating Idlewood, just wanna throw that out there..
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: SugarD on August 16, 2012, 05:31:53 pm
No. I thought people would see I had a legit story..

Ive been registered since August 2nd.. How am I supposed to know that someone pulling a stupid stunt like that should be thoroughly documented? If thats the case, Ill go reformat my NAS Server, and FRAPS every minute on the server. 

Why should I need to have any proof that some guy did this? An officer saw it, but he 'disappeared', and the Arresting officer also claimed to have saw it, and said my truck also flipped over, and exploded, then I got out of the truck and shot him while he was in LS, and it happened in LV.

Loads of little things. They weigh you down. Even in something thats supposed to be enjoyable.
Patrick, I'm sorry that this has happened to you, and no, you weren't expected to be aware beforehand. Like the rest of us, sometimes it just takes time to catch onto things everyone does here in order to learn these things as being useful or not. What I like about your complaint, however, is that you made us aware of your point of view as a new player, instead of moaning about it like many others have, in order to notify people of a situation with provided evidence, even if some things are questionable as being "disallowed".

However, the reason why I mentioned the screenshot function was because, as I said, can be your proof sometimes of odd situations like this, just as your logs are. There's no need to pull out FRAPS and run it 24/7. ;)

As for the SA:MP server, deathmatching has become a bit of an issue. Admins are trying to combat it, but the server's morale has gotten a bit lower than it once used to be, so things are a bit iffy right now. As a solution, a new version of the scripts, dubbed "RS5", are in the works to not only create more fun ways to roleplay, but to also combat these common issues using a newly designed system that makes them less possible to begin with, and actually discourage it from the start. If you can try to hang on and have fun until it's released, then it might be worth playing when it comes out. :)

If at any point you feel upset and it seems like the admins in the server have "betrayed" you or "abused" you, you are also free to send an email, preferably with pics and/or logs, to [email protected], (for the SA:MP server), and the management and above will be able to read your complaint and respond accordingly.

Has anyone told you about the /report system in-game yet? :)
If not, you may use /report <ID #> <Reason>, and the in-game admins will get your report regarding a user that is rulebreaking.

Unfortunately, sometimes our experiences turn out to be bad...especially if they happen when we are still forming our first opinions of the place we are interacting in. Try and give it a chance man. I have a feeling that in due time you'll become as hooked as we are on this community, and it will turn out to be a ton of fun for you during your good times of roleplay. :)

Despite what others may think, you are also more than welcome to PM someone for help. Questions, concerns, or ideas are all welcome in this community so long as they aren't just there to point fingers, blame someone, or moan. Just remember when posting about something that is negative, even if you have positive intentions, that sometimes people will take it as negative and become defensive. Since we all love this community, we tend to protect it from those that don't. Don't let this discourage you, though!

Anyway, I will end this long post with saying that I hope you have a better day today, and that your roleplays go better so you can have more enjoyment out of them and have a good time!

Have a good one man. :)
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Alan.Wake on August 16, 2012, 05:38:05 pm
I remember Corleone doing this multiple times on Gvardia and most of it backfired.  :lol:
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Patrick_Sivero on August 16, 2012, 07:55:00 pm
I remember Corleone doing this multiple times on Gvardia and most of it backfired.  :lol:

Yeah, Apparently Gvardia and Corleone are no longer enemies, because Dr. Jarome Gvardia was there.. thanks for reminding me.

Has anyone told you about the /report system in-game yet? :)
If not, you may use /report <ID #> <Reason>, and the in-game admins will get your report regarding a user that is rulebreaking.

First, SugarD, Thank you for your consideration.

Second, Yes I know about the report command, and how to use it. It seems as if when I use it, nothing is done. Whether it be Deathmatching, or simply being frozen for 20 minutes because a cop false /su's me, I /gu, then He says "Nevermind." I report him, not because he did anything wrong in my eyes, but because now im frozen in position and said to /unsus me. Nobody did it. Nobody looked into it. I even PM'ed an Admin and he said to have the cop PM him to unfreeze me. After a 20 minute debacle trying to get the cop to PM the admin, and vice versa, nothing happened. Then another admin who had just joined saw my complaint, and unfroze me.

There is a problem. Some administration seem to have favorites, or a lack of concern for players.

When we had our issue with the Corleones, again we never understood why we were attacked in the first place, it resulted bad for our group. They would call us deathmatchers, and we would return the comment, only to find one of us banned for provoking. Please tell me why are there 1 way streets when it comes to this?

Again, There will be no name calling, finger pointing, or flaming of any kind on this. This is not a topic to complain about differences on.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Hamza. on August 16, 2012, 08:08:47 pm
/report works..
Don't give up and don't leave agonath  :poke:
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Gandalf on August 16, 2012, 08:49:15 pm
Second, Yes I know about the report command, and how to use it. It seems as if when I use it, nothing is done. Whether it be Deathmatching, or simply being frozen for 20 minutes because a cop false /su's me, I /gu, then He says "Nevermind." I report him, not because he did anything wrong in my eyes, but because now im frozen in position and said to /unsus me. Nobody did it. Nobody looked into it. I even PM'ed an Admin and he said to have the cop PM him to unfreeze me. After a 20 minute debacle trying to get the cop to PM the admin, and vice versa, nothing happened. Then another admin who had just joined saw my complaint, and unfroze me.
Here is all your chatlog from that incident.

Quote
[23:23:17] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /report 3 False /su
[23:23:32] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /smoke 1
[23:24:02] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /s Hey assholes no guns!
[23:24:06] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /stopanim
[23:24:59] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /gu
[23:26:06] MSG -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : Umm am i going to be unsuspected?
[23:27:07] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /pm 3 is it easier to jail me for 10 seconds and refund me my 200$?
[23:27:27] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /report 16 DM
[23:27:30] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /report 66 DM
[23:27:56] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /admins
[23:28:14] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /admins
[23:29:23] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /admins
[23:29:53] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /pm 96 Can i get Unsuspected as TinMan requested/
[23:29:57] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /pm 96 Can i get Unsuspected as TinMan requested?
[23:30:29] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /pm 3 PM ID 96 to Unsuspect me.
[23:30:52] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /pm 96 I also got a cop trying to Car kill me while /gu'd
[23:32:55] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /pm 96 Did TinMan PM you?
[23:35:28] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /pm 96 Can i be unsuspected now?
[23:35:55] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /pm 3 Can you please PM Plam_Knight (96) to unsuspect me?
[23:36:40] MSG -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : ffs fucking cops false suspect me for shooting, then when i /gu they fuck off and noone unsuspect
[23:37:19] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /pm 96 I guess he isnt going to PM.. just great.
[23:38:23] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /pm 85 Can you unsuspect me? ID 3 False suspected me for shooting, then i /gu and he requested to
[23:38:44] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /pm 85 unsuspected*
[23:39:12] MSG -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : Can someone unsuspect me or get me unfrozen for /gu?!
[23:39:22] MSG -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : As TinMan Requested?
[23:40:05] MSG -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : like 10 minutes
[23:40:15] CMD -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : /pm 3 What the fuck buddy?
[23:40:49] MSG -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : Seeing as i have been sitting here stuck in /gu for 10 minutes
[23:41:57] MSG -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : I was suspected falsely for shooting, then i /gu.. the officer requested i be unsuspected, and no
[23:42:08] MSG -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : of sitting here.
[23:42:29] MSG -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : Seriously nobody gives a shit?
[23:42:52] MSG -> Patrick_Sivero (17) : Murt, Thank you!
The problem here is that we have no clearvoyant admins on our team.
If you report a cop for false suspection, the admins advise you to give up and get investigated, as they are unable to determine if the reason is valid or not.
It took you 16 minutes before starting to explain to people that you were left alone frozen.
Once the admins noticed, you were cleared quickly.
To blame this on the admin team is incorrect, as you never approached any the fisrt 15 minutes.
Another possibility would have been to PM a cop to pick you up.

There is a problem. Some administration seem to have favorites, or a lack of concern for players.

When we had our issue with the Corleones, again we never understood why we were attacked in the first place, it resulted bad for our group. They would call us deathmatchers, and we would return the comment, only to find one of us banned for provoking. Please tell me why are there 1 way streets when it comes to this?

Again, There will be no name calling, finger pointing, or flaming of any kind on this. This is not a topic to complain about differences on.
There is always a problem that new groups will be called everything, and in some cases it may take time before people start to listen. What I can see you are doing a great job so far, and if you keep it up then people will know your group is doing good pretty soon.
However you got to understand that the admin team is not clearvoyant, and has instructions to act on what they witness only. Give admins time to react, but at the same time be specific in what the problem is.
The better you explain, the more help you will get.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Salvatore_Zambino on August 16, 2012, 09:09:49 pm
If this is a reason to leave Argonath, then I would suggest watching My Little Pony instead of playing GTA games.

LOL x a fucking billion times
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Mashgash on August 16, 2012, 09:15:24 pm
You are newly registred and have not experienced even half of what Argonath offer. If you isn't suitable with the mafia role I advice you to find a role you like. It is lots of roles to try out, all you gotta do is to find them and explorer them :)

I must say that the roleplay scene you attached was properly done. You had several times to get away from there alive. I must say it's wierd your group have that attitude if you wish to form an alliance with the Corleone...

Good luck mate.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Patrick_Sivero on August 16, 2012, 11:10:45 pm
Gandalf, I appreciate you pulling that information and showing it. Glad to see i was not being over dramatic in my timeframe. From what I can see is i did /gu, and the officer just left me there.

The second incident, I /gu on the fire truck incident, I was still jailed for someone hitting my car and exploding, the LSPD, FBI, and Admins all doubted i was telling the truth.

Nobody cares..

Also, I was not personally apart of this, however my family had an issue within the last hour or 2, with a user named boozy.  The details aren't clear, as i wasn't there, however I believe it was returning after death. They reported him, and nothing happened for a while. Then he was banned for ban evading. It appears the Sivero tag receives a lapse in responsibility?

In addition, it could possibly be because Corleone members are administrators (?), and if we go to do anything, it evolves into a deathmatch, and if we request assistance, nothing gets examined?

You are newly registred and have not experienced even half of what Argonath offer. If you isn't suitable with the mafia role I advice you to find a role you like. It is lots of roles to try out, all you gotta do is to find them and explorer them :)

I must say that the roleplay scene you attached was properly done. You had several times to get away from there alive. I must say it's wierd your group have that attitude if you wish to form an alliance with the Corleone...

Good luck mate.

Completely understand. But why should I want to play if its not fun for me? Don't like gangs, do fire missions.. okay. Tired of being killed by fire extinguishers and fire fighters who are not open to suggestions on fire fighting tactics?

Code: [Select]
[13:08:38] PM to Hady.(99): Please learn how to be a firefighter. Thanks.

[13:08:44] You entered a Firetruck(85), owner: Fire_Service_LV

[13:08:57] PM from Hady.(99): im the best firefighter

[13:09:17] PM to Hady.(99): Then why are you constantly killing me with your fire extinguisher?

[13:09:33] PM to Hady.(99): You have caught me on fire, and killed me with the fire extinguisher twice now.

[13:09:40] PM from Hady.(99): ok

[13:10:04] PM to Hady.(99): Dont spray it directly at others. Make a cross over the fire. Nobody will be killed if we do that

[13:10:50] PM from Hady.(99): dont tell me what to do

[13:10:57] PM to Hady.(99): Have fun in jail.


[13:11:07] Screenshot Taken - sa-mp-029.png

And Yes, while I was first joking about the Network Attached Storage and FRAPS, I am actually considering this now.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Matt Murdock on August 17, 2012, 12:01:34 am
If this is a reason to leave Argonath, then I would suggest watching My Little Pony instead of playing GTA games.
^^

But yeah, I'm pretty sure Violent didn't mean ACTUAL 2kg of heroin and 3kg of weed from you. Even if they did, they'd pay you. Nobody on Argonath is as heartless to just end a new gang or family, we don't take shit personal.

And even if he did mean actual weed and heroin, well indeed he wanted to kill you, it wasn't a death match however.

Good roleplay none the less, you were surrounded by 11 or more of the best mafisos on Argonath, yet you were able to hold your shit in your pants and role played along. You earned my respect.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: =AV=Rob on August 17, 2012, 12:32:45 am
Patrick it could be worse i was warned earlier for "Suiciding while wanted" or something to the equivalent when what actually happened was simple, I fell off my bike down a huge rock and died and when i explained to the admin he gave the attitude that said *I really could not give a fuck*. So yeah it could be worse keep your chin up bud.  :banana:
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Marcell on August 17, 2012, 06:30:10 am
^^

But yeah, I'm pretty sure Violent didn't mean ACTUAL 2kg of heroin and 3kg of weed from you. Even if they did, they'd pay you. Nobody on Argonath is as heartless to just end a new gang or family, we don't take shit personal.

And even if he did mean actual weed and heroin, well indeed he wanted to kill you, it wasn't a death match however.

Good roleplay none the less, you were surrounded by 11 or more of the best mafisos on Argonath, yet you were able to hold your shit in your pants and role played along. You earned my respect.
He did. We changed it to 500,000$ / 5kg of weed due to negotation but they didn't agree either
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: JDC on August 17, 2012, 06:53:49 am
DM never ends, because the same repeat offenders are unbanned which enables the vicious cycle to repeat.

The solution is to permanently ban repeat offenders.

Then you and your associates would have been gone from this community a long time ago.



This rude reply wasn't needed at all. You're a part of the administration, you should help and listen the players and not to mock them. If you were able to do your job properly, you would know he's a new player and he doesn't know how the things are here, not even the scenarios he's in.
And I would suggest you to grow up.
Your comment didnt help anyone.

I am here to get the facts across in the most direct manner possible, not to change diapers and cater to princesses. I am not surprised if those who found my comment disagreeable are those who do not have the balls to face the consequences of their actions.

This is a GTA Multiplayer server, and there will always be rulebreakers, disrupters, rogue players, idiots who shit on the community, jack asses, and all other sorts of vermin who want to disrupt your gameplay IG. Do not expect to get far in the community if you are utterly incapable of dealing with the aforementioned.

It is you who needs to grow up.  Be reminded that you are here to play, learn, roleplay, make friends, and have fun, instead of acting like a princess with a rat in her skirt. As Aragorn said, cannot handle DMers, flamers, and etc? Go play The Sims.

Shut the moaning, and continue playing. That's how you have fun.
If that solution does not work, then it is you who will need to change, before the community.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Gandalf on August 17, 2012, 08:51:39 am
Gandalf, I appreciate you pulling that information and showing it. Glad to see i was not being over dramatic in my timeframe. From what I can see is i did /gu, and the officer just left me there.
That is correct, however what you may not yet have understood is that admin do not get any notification if you /gu, nor is it theire responsibility to handle false suspection. There for from the 20 minutes waiting time, the most part was your fault, probably due to not being familiar.

You can not blame this on the admin team, they had no way of knowing.

The second incident, I /gu on the fire truck incident, I was still jailed for someone hitting my car and exploding, the LSPD, FBI, and Admins all doubted i was telling the truth.

Nobody cares..
It is not that nobody cares, but that such bugs are pretty rare due to the script offering protection from most killbugs. Once again the problem lies in witnessing an event. If it happens again, instantly report to admins (if possible also by PM) that you are killbugged. Within about one minute, they can see it from their admin chat and will react. After a longer time, they are no longer able to verify, which means they can not act on it.

Also, I was not personally apart of this, however my family had an issue within the last hour or 2, with a user named boozy.  The details aren't clear, as i wasn't there, however I believe it was returning after death. They reported him, and nothing happened for a while. Then he was banned for ban evading. It appears the Sivero tag receives a lapse in responsibility?
It is not just the Sivero tag. Once again, it is due to the instructions the admins have.
Without witnessing the reported rulebreak, they are not allowed to punish.
This may seem unfair if you put in a valid report, but the alternative would be that players could put an invalid report on your family and you would get punished without reason. That would really be unfair.

In addition, it could possibly be because Corleone members are administrators (?), and if we go to do anything, it evolves into a deathmatch, and if we request assistance, nothing gets examined?
The Corleone members that are admin are known to be extremely fair, and would more likely punish their own members as anyone else.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: ClazzyJogel on August 17, 2012, 11:05:42 am
JDC if your trying to impress someone with your badassness, your failing, no offence.
I have played here three weeks and I know already that your the strictest admin on the server, proud?
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Kirgiz on August 17, 2012, 11:10:54 am
JDC if your trying to impress someone with your badassness, your failing, no offence.
I have played here three weeks and I know already that your the strictest admin on the server, proud?
:lol: :rofl:
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Ricardo. on August 17, 2012, 11:21:45 am
I am here to get the facts across in the most direct manner possible, not to change diapers and cater to princesses. I am not surprised if those who found my comment disagreeable are those who do not have the balls to face the consequences of their actions.

This is a GTA Multiplayer server, and there will always be rulebreakers, disrupters, rogue players, idiots who shit on the community, jack asses, and all other sorts of vermin who want to disrupt your gameplay IG. Do not expect to get far in the community if you are utterly incapable of dealing with the aforementioned.

It is you who needs to grow up.  Be reminded that you are here to play, learn, roleplay, make friends, and have fun, instead of acting like a princess with a rat in her skirt. As Aragorn said, cannot handle DMers, flamers, and etc? Go play The Sims.

Shut the moaning, and continue playing. That's how you have fun.
If that solution does not work, then it is you who will need to change, before the community.
If I didn't have balls like you said, I wouldn't reply to your no sence quote.

I won't repeat myself again, if you don't know how to do your job properly, let another do it and don't say a word.

Anyway, if you want to continue this, take it to pm, I'm not willing to come here and see you bad girling around.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Loco on August 17, 2012, 11:34:18 am
Man, don't you see JDC is rping a bad girl on forum ... Rly man, you should know that ...

No, what you said JDC don't make sense. You're telling they have no balls but they were the people who warned you - extra point for them.

You're saying these kind of people shouldn't play gta - Agreed, but SAMP can not control the real age of its players so everybody can play, therefore, you need to adequate your behaviour to them. You need also teach them how stuff are here and not act like you did.
I really don't care if it was said by Gandalf, aragorn or even my mom, I would not change my thought. It's a lack of respect to new players who don't know what to do and had no chance to join a decent mafia because their lack of skills.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Frank_Hawk on August 17, 2012, 01:20:01 pm
Then you and your associates would have been gone from this community a long time ago.

I've never been banned and neither have my associates during INFERNO 9's reign as the premier balla movement, so this does not apply.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Patrick_Sivero on August 17, 2012, 07:59:08 pm
JDC, from a beginner's view (to Argonath), You do not make me feel welcome to this community. Comments like yours are detrimental to the community's growth. I hope you understand that.

That is correct, however what you may not yet have understood is that admin do not get any notification if you /gu, nor is it theire responsibility to handle false suspection. There for from the 20 minutes waiting time, the most part was your fault, probably due to not being familiar.

You can not blame this on the admin team, they had no way of knowing.

I am not blaming them on the fact that they are not psychic, I am blaming them on response time, and their tactics in resolving it. As opposed to asking who the officer was, they requested I have the officer PM them. That other player is not going to acknowledge my requests, but should to a administrator. The time frame could have been shorter.

Also, I could safely say if nobody helped me, and I relogged to become unfrozen, I would have been instantly banned.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: JDC on August 17, 2012, 10:23:22 pm
I've never been banned and neither have my associates during INFERNO 9's reign as the premier balla movement, so this does not apply.
You do realize you have destroyed the point you are forwarding (repeated DMers getting banned) as you have said it does not apply to the kind of people who you said it should apply to.



Certain other posts lack any substance at all, so I do not see the need to dignify them with a reply.

I won't repeat myself again, if you don't know how to do your job properly, let another do it and don't say a word.

Anyway, if you want to continue this, take it to pm, I'm not willing to come here and see you bad girling around.
Before you try to advise someone who has years of experience in dealing with people worse than yourself, think of what you have achieved so far.



JDC, from a beginner's view (to Argonath), You do not make me feel welcome to this community. Comments like yours are detrimental to the community's growth. I hope you understand that.
I have introduced many other new players with the same words, and they were able to take it in a positive light. Of course, except for those who were better off playing The Sims as they cannot handle that shit happens to them.

My comments are not detrimental to the community's growth, but rather, to people who cannot handle the facts.

What you should learn to do is accept the consequences of your actions (such as joining a mafia with a boss who acts like an idiot by getting you in the shit) and that shit happens to everyone in this community, then move on, instead of complaining like a princess with a rat in her skirt.

Cannot handle the facts I point out? You are free to go ahead and do the opposite of everything I said here, but the disaster that will befall you later on will be no one's fault but yours.

From this topic alone, I can see you are focusing more on the shit that happens to you in the server. What you should do is find more roleplay opportunities and players who are willing to influence you in a better direction as opposed to making topics because you got involved in some group DM.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Chuck_Norris on August 17, 2012, 10:26:01 pm
So, JDC, back active on samp?
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: JDC on August 17, 2012, 10:29:50 pm
So, JDC, back active on samp?

I never really left. :alc:

As contrary to what some others think, you do not need to be ingame 24/7 to ascertain the true state of things.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Frank_Hawk on August 17, 2012, 10:46:57 pm
You do realize you have destroyed the point you are forwarding (repeated DMers getting banned) as you have said it does not apply to the kind of people who you said it should apply to.

The message was clear in saying that repeat offenders (those who are banned continously) should be permanently banned.

My position has since changed as reflected in later posts.

Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: zater112 on August 18, 2012, 12:09:06 am
So, JDC, back active on samp?
DAM ! Are you still here around?
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Seskom on August 18, 2012, 12:58:25 am
Let's just be honest here.

Deathmatches occur because of the following reasons
1)Weapons easy to get
2)Weapons are cheap
3)Punishments after using weapons are max 180 seconds of jail or 1000$ loss.

With 5k you can get combat shotgun and armour... + all you need to do is /enter /buyweapon /exit. There's your answer, easy as it can be.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Salmonella on August 18, 2012, 01:38:40 am
1)Weapons easy to get
2)Weapons are cheap
3)Punishments after using weapons are max 180 seconds of jail or 1000$ loss.

1) Nein.
2) Nee.
3) Non.

And even if so, what do you propose we should do about it? Are you seriously suggesting we should make weapons harder to get, increase weapon price and increase jailtime or loss after death by cops? It's a game, I'm not going to wait 10 minutes in a game just because I killed someone, and you wouldn't do so either. The weapon prices are high as is, but there's nothing wrong with that. It's how it should be. Weapons, or anything else a user desires, should be easy to get if there's enough money involved. The reason why deathmatching occurs is because there are people with bad intentions for others, people that don't know the rules and people that refuse to learn the rules. I really don't see why it's a big deal. It's been like this forever and will be like it forever. The administration will always handle it, that's the solution we have and it's the only solution there is. As I explained earlier, time is the only method to really get rid of people acting like that. Time allows people to learn. Don't blame new players for deathmatching, just educate them. Veteran players deathmatching get their fair share of punishment too, so don't even worry.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Seskom on August 18, 2012, 01:52:27 am
Incrasing weapon prices would teach people to appriciate the weapon not just use it. They would be more careful not to loose it and not to waste it. Simple as that.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Salmonella on August 18, 2012, 03:55:33 am
Incrasing weapon prices would teach people to appriciate the weapon not just use it. They would be more careful not to loose it and not to waste it. Simple as that.

It most certainly is not as simple as that. Weapons in ArgonathRPG are very important. Most of the roleplay in here is surrounded by weapons. Wheter they're used or not, they're always present. The roleplaying scenarios that you will generally come across in ArgonathRPG aren't based on fairytales, to say it subtly. Apart from weapons simply being necessary, I'm also obligated to remind you that death occurs more than daily for every player individually. Over fifty percent of these deaths are caused by something that doesn't relate to roleplay at all, such as carkillers, deathmatchers, hackers, but also bugs, glitches and perhaps even accidental self-injury. In conclusion, there are a lot more things to keep in mind when even considering to suggest a lower or higher price for weapons. I've named a few here, but I'm sure the owners have kept more of them in mind when they decided on the weapon prices. I believe deathmatching was not one of them.

It was nice to see you get back to the original subject of this topic, but sadly the content you're posting is rather disappointing.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: SugarD on August 18, 2012, 04:06:05 am
Most of the roleplay in here is surrounded by weapons.
That says it right there. That is the problem. There is much more to roleplaying than cops and robbers, gang wars, and mafia kidnappings. People need to expand their ideas. Even those three types of roleplays I just mentioned could also be expanded without the need of weapons being used or carried. People just don't want to think outside of the box because they've become so accustomed to using and/or carrying them.

Hell, I've even had to order Firefighters to stop buying and carrying handguns on duty because it has nothing to do with the roleplay at all. With people's mentalities like this, there is a pretty big problem.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Teddy on August 18, 2012, 04:24:10 am
Everything was done correctly and in roleplay. If you dont like it, i suggest you play this game instead

: http://www.thesims3.com/ (http://www.thesims3.com/)

The sims 2 is better than the sims 3. #commonknowlege
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Patrick_Sivero on August 18, 2012, 05:55:42 am
This topic is becoming more about what other game I should play other than SA-MP, what my family should have done differently, and who has returned/never left a community.

Will a moderator lock this topic now? This is getting off topic and is no longer constructive.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: JDC on August 18, 2012, 06:23:52 am
Raising the weapon prices will not necessarily stop the flow of DM... we have people on the server who literally spend tens of thousands on weapons, die in a shootout, and spend thousands more on weapons for the next shootout.

Don't change the money, change the mentality.
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: SugarD on August 18, 2012, 06:38:15 am
The original poster said this is getting a bit off-topic and requested a lock, and I have to agree. We are straying way off the original point here guys and girls. ;)
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: SkyHawk on August 18, 2012, 06:41:08 am
Not exactly straying off point, but we are bring out the issues that are found within issues hence the DMing aspect. He felt he was deathmatched unfairly in our roleplay with Corleone and then question arose on why repeat offenders should be allowed to stay..it all focuses on the subject of deathmatching and ofcourse his firecall incident..
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: SugarD on August 18, 2012, 06:54:56 am
Not exactly straying off point, but we are bring out the issues that are found within issues hence the DMing aspect. He felt he was deathmatched unfairly in our roleplay with Corleone and then question arose on why repeat offenders should be allowed to stay..it all focuses on the subject of deathmatching and ofcourse his firecall incident..
Discussing weapon prices isn't related though. It's more related to the subject that's related to the original discussion, which is straying pretty far. I'd suggest a moderator split the topic at this point if people want to continue it. ;)
Title: Re: Why Deathmatches Occur.
Post by: Gandalf on August 18, 2012, 09:51:09 am
I will lock the topic as requested, with one last thought for those who request raising of weapon prices.

The only way we will increase weapons prices is if we remove ALL weapons, including the saved amounts. We are not going to make people rich over night.
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