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Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => World and local news => Topic started by: Jellyfish on October 12, 2012, 08:12:47 am
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A 14-year-old Pakistani girl shot in the head by Taliban gunmen has been transferred to a new military hospital with better facilities.
Malala Yousafzai, in critical condition two days after being attacked in the north-western Swat Valley, arrived by helicopter in Rawalpindi from Peshawar.
The Taliban, who accuse the young activist of "promoting secularism", have said they will target her again.
There have been widespread protests in Pakistan against the shooting.
Malala Yousafzai was being treated in an intensive care unit in Peshawar before doctors decided to move her to the Armed Forces Institute of Cardiology critical care unit in Rawalpindi.
One of the medical team treating her said "neurologically she has significantly improved" but that the "coming days... are very critical".
Another doctor, Mumtaz Khan, told AFP news agency that she had a 70% chance of survival.
"Her condition is not yet out of danger despite improvement," Masood Kausar, the governor of the north-western Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, was also quoted as saying.
'Barbaric mindset'
Pakistani officials have offered a 10m rupee ($105,000; £66,000) reward for information leading to the arrest of the attackers.
I felt hurt on opening my wardrobe and seeing my uniform, school bag and geometry box. Boys' schools are opening tomorrow. But the Taliban have banned girls' education. â€ÂÂ
Malala Yousafzai
Army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, who visited Malala in hospital in Peshawar on Wednesday, said it was time to "stand up to fight the propagators of such barbaric mindset and their sympathisers".
Malala gained attention aged 11, when she started writing a diary for BBC Urdu about life under the Taliban.
Using the pen-name Gul Makai, she wrote about suffering caused by militants who had taken control of the Swat Valley in 2007 and ordered girls' schools to close.
The Taliban were ousted from Swat in 2009, but her family said they had regularly received death threats.
They believed she would be safe among her own community, but on Tuesday, she was stopped as she returned home from school in Mingora, in north-western Swat, and shot in the head.
Malala Yousafzai spoke to the BBC in November 2011
Schools in the Swat Valley closed on Wednesday in protest at the attack, and schoolchildren in other parts of the country prayed for the girl's recovery.
Protests were held in Islamabad, Peshawar, Multan and in Malala's hometown of Mingora and in Lahore.
Those taking part praised the girl's bravery, while many condemned the attack as un-Islamic.
The attack has also drawn international condemnation.
Former UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown, now the UN special envoy for global education, said Malala Yousafzai had become an "icon for courage and hope" for more than 30 million girls worldwide who are denied primary schooling.
Mr Brown said he had accepted an invitation from President Asif Ali Zardari to lead a delegation to Pakistan in November "to talk about how he can improve opportunities for children".
Source (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19908409)
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They couldn't kill her at close range with a headshot? What are the Taliban using? BB guns?
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How sick must one be to shoot a child? Honestly.
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They couldn't kill her at close range with a headshot? What are the Taliban using? BB guns?
what an accusation.
Instead of playing God I advise you to re-read the topic.
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what an accusation.
Instead of playing God I advise you to re-read the topic.
God.. :lol:
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She isn't in critical condition, the bullets got safely removed out of her body, and she's recovering pretty well..
Also the mongos who shot her got busted..
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She isn't in critical condition, the bullets got safely removed out of her body, and she's recovering pretty well..
Also the mongos who shot her got busted..
Actually, there's still a 30% chance that she may not regain consciousness. And I'm pretty sure the 'mongos' involved in the shooting weren't acting on their own.
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Everything including talibans,media and all others are piece of shit. :mad:
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Everything including talibans,media and all others are piece of shit. :mad:
Basically you just said that everything is shit, because your "all others" has an indefinite end which may lead to pretty much anywhere.
You including.
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Basically you just said that everything is shit, because your "all others" has an indefinite end which may lead to pretty much anywhere.
You including.
He meant everything including something with Talibans, such as media, is shit.
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The girls father thanked god on live TV instead of the british medical team that saved her... :lol:
Go back to your own country ignorant twat. :redface:
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The girls father thanked god on live TV instead of the british medical team that saved her... :lol:
Go back to your own country ignorant twat. :redface:
i smell xenophobia
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The girls father thanked god on live TV instead of the british medical team that saved her... :lol:
Go back to your own country ignorant twat. :redface:
Get out of here, if you're an atheist, doesnt mean everyone is. Get your attitude right... I could say a lot of things about British, speaking of that, but i wont go down to your level.
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Get out of here, if you're an atheist, doesnt mean everyone is. Get your attitude right... I could say a lot of things about British, speaking of that, but i wont go down to your level.
One thing is believing and god and thanking him, but ignoring the medic's hard work and saying God saved here is just taking the shit.
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Get out of here, if you're an atheist, doesnt mean everyone is. Get your attitude right... I could say a lot of things about British, speaking of that, but i wont go down to your level.
Right yeah you could say things about the British, such has Britain is a highly stable country that once ruled a large chunk of the world, you could say that theres nearly no poverty here and that the country does what it can to help other countrys, this girl with her ignorant farther as an example.. Do you have anything bad in mind?
One thing is believing and god and thanking him, but ignoring the medic's hard work and saying God saved here is just taking the shit.
This. :hurray:
And I'm not athiest, I'm nothing... I don't want to get involved with religious crap.
He blatently ignored the docters/nurses that saved her and thanked god instead, seriously I hope he's gone back to his own country already and taken his daughter with him.
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Right yeah you could say things about the British, such has Britain is a highly stable country that once ruled a large chunk of the world, you could say that theres nearly no poverty here and that the country does what it can to help other countrys, this girl with her ignorant farther as an example.. Do you have anything bad in mind?
This. :hurray:
And I'm not athiest, I'm nothing... I don't want to get involved with religious crap.
He blatently ignored the docters/nurses that saved her and thanked god instead, seriously I hope he's gone back to his own country already and taken his daughter with him.
Every country has it's minuses, doesnt matter how good you think it is.. In any case, just because you dont believe, doesnt matter someone else shouldnt. So please, start tolerate other opinions or stay away? Someone who is not eligible to tolerate other opinions, shouldnt post his own either.
At Wolfe - That isnt what i meant, yes, in fact, god didnt save her, medics did, but indirectly insulting all the religious people out there is not something we should tolerate.
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And I'm not athiest, I'm nothing... I don't want to get involved with religious crap.
So, you aren't an atheist.. But you ARE an atheist?
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So, you aren't an atheist.. But you ARE an atheist?
No I'm nothing, since being Athiest would mean I'm involved in religion in a way that I don't believe it. Athiest is basicly a religion of non-believers.. :D
Every country has it's minuses, doesnt matter how good you think it is.. In any case, just because you dont believe, doesnt matter someone else shouldnt. So please, start tolerate other opinions or stay away? Someone who is not eligible to tolerate other opinions, shouldnt post his own either.
At Wolfe - That isnt what i meant, yes, in fact, god didnt save her, medics did, but indirectly insulting all the religious people out there is not something we should tolerate.
Fact is he's still an ignorant twat for thanking 'god' instead of the medics.
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No I'm nothing, since being Athiest would mean I'm involved in religion in a way that I don't believe it. Athiest is basicly a religion of non-believers.. :D
No. Atheism is not believing in a supernatural spiritual being. Atheists don't go to church, don't have meetings, etc. Atheists aren't 'united' or 'bonded' by their beliefs. They simply don't believe in a religion. How hard is that to understand?
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No. Atheism is not believing in a supernatural spiritual being. Atheists don't go to church, don't have meetings, etc. Atheists aren't 'united' or 'bonded' by their beliefs. They simply don't believe in a religion. How hard is that to understand?
Ok ok, but Athiests still have beliefs, such as believing religions are bullshit.. :D
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Ok ok, but Athiests still have beliefs, such as believing religions are bullshit.. :D
really? lol
If you do not believe in any religion, you ARE an atheist, there's no ''i'm nothing''
Not all atheists believe religions are bullshit either, that's just a trend of pissed-off teenagers of nowadays - they just do not believe in any of them.
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Let me put it simple :
You're either a atheist, or you're religious, there is nothing else you can be.
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really? lol
If you do not believe in any religion, you ARE an atheist, there's no ''i'm nothing''
Not all atheists believe religions are bullshit either, that's just a trend of pissed-off teenagers of nowadays - they just do not believe in any of them.
I'm not a pissed off teenager and I believe they are bullshit.. :trust:
Let me put it simple :
You're either a atheist, or you're religious, there is nothing else you can be.
I'm still nothing man.
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I'm not a pissed off teenager and I believe they are bullshit.. :trust:
I'm still nothing man.
Aight baby,you will find your religion.Not at this time,but hereafter when we all will be dead.And on judgement day,you will cry,i garuntee it.Me,i aint that religious and mister perfect but i will also cry there.And i think my soul will burn in hell fire for the bad actions i did.
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And on judgement day,you will cry,i garuntee it.Me,i aint that religious and mister perfect but i will also cry there.
So you aren't THAT religious... But you do believe in 'judgement day'?
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So you aren't THAT religious... But you do believe in 'judgement day'?
Yes,if i neglect the concept of such even basics of islam,then i am non believer.I dont wish to be nonbeliever.
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Ok ok, but Athiests still have beliefs, such as believing religions are bullshit.. :D
Nah, atheism is merely the lack of a belief in a deity. Most rational and reasonable people fit into this category.
Believing that religion is actively harmful (which is my position) is anti-theism, i.e. "against theism".
Fact is he's still an ignorant twat for thanking 'god' instead of the medics.
Yea, that's true.
Aight baby,you will find your religion.Not at this time,but hereafter when we all will be dead.And on judgement day,you will cry,i garuntee it.Me,i aint that religious and mister perfect but i will also cry there.And i think my soul will burn in hell fire for the bad actions i did.
lol
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The god gives life,gives death but death does not mean that we go blank,as the god says"Even hell fire cannot terminate soul".So? :redface:
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The god gives life,gives death but death does not mean that we go blank,as the god says"Even hell fire cannot terminate soul".So? :redface:
No, your parents give life, and you will give life (if your not into men ofc) and so on, so on..
Where did your parents and before come from? EVOLUTION!
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No I'm nothing, since being Athiest would mean I'm involved in religion in a way that I don't believe it. Athiest is basicly a religion of non-believers.. :D
I'm still nothing man.
Facepalm.
Theist = Believes in a supernatural being / mechanism. The world's religions belong here.
Antitheist = Believes that Theism is harmful. Antitheists actively oppose religion and religious concepts.
Agnostic = Believes that the (non) existence of a supernatural deity / mechanism can neither be proved or disproved.
Atheist = Does not believe in the existence of any supernatural deity or mechanism. Frequently confused with antitheists.
Everyone belongs to one of the four categories. You cannot "be nothing".
Although personally, I agree that the girl's father was erroneous not to thank the medical team. This is an objective fact regardless of your religious orientation.
Reminding all of you that this board is not a place to promulgate support / hatred for religion. Please keep on topic.
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Facepalm.
Theist = Believes in a supernatural being / mechanism. The world's religions belong here.
Antitheist = Believes that Theism is harmful. Antitheists actively oppose religion and religious concepts.
Agnostic = Believes that the (non) existence of a supernatural deity / mechanism can neither be proved or disproved.
Atheist = Does not believe in the existence of any supernatural deity or mechanism. Frequently confused with antitheists.
Everyone belongs to one of the four categories. You cannot "be nothing".
Although personally, I agree that the girl's father was erroneous not to thank the medical team. This is an objective fact regardless of your religious orientation.
Reminding all of you that this board is not a place to promulgate support / hatred for religion. Please keep on topic.
Agreed
BTW, can it be that we have the very same person in our Avatars, can it? :D
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Theist = Believes in a supernatural being / mechanism. The world's religions belong here.
Antitheist = Believes that Theism is harmful. Antitheists actively oppose religion and religious concepts.
Agnostic = Believes that the (non) existence of a supernatural deity / mechanism can neither be proved or disproved.
Atheist = Does not believe in the existence of any supernatural deity or mechanism. Frequently confused with antitheists.
I always prefer a scale that places belief in a deity (Theism/Atheism) as non-mutually exclusive with your conviction in that belief (Non-Agnostic/Agnostic).
No rational person is 100% sure that there is a god, or 100% sure that there isn't (as there is no evidence to *completely* prove or disprove either position). As it goes, almost all atheists are agnostic in their belief, while most theists are not.
Anyway.. if anything, the closest description to Mikal's "nothing" is that of an agnostic who does not care even slightly about whether there is or is not a deity. Given that he is a young British person with internet access, and based off his comments on the forum and in this thread, my best guess would suggest that he is actually an atheist. Everyone is one or the other; as JDC said: you cannot be neither.
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I'm the Doctor.
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Although personally, I agree that the girl's father was erroneous not to thank the medical team. This is an objective fact regardless of your religious orientation.
:hurray: JDC agree'd with me! :pop:
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No, your parents give life, and you will give life (if your not into men ofc) and so on, so on..
Where did your parents and before come from? EVOLUTION!
Why dont you just read my religions history?Well,if you even read it but still you wont accept that you are wrong.
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>Big bang came from apes.
>i loled
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Dude whath da fuq iz thiz?no more religion talks.
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Why dont you just read my religions history?Well,if you even read it but still you wont accept that you are wrong.
Your religion says god created everything(?)..
Well thats impossible, since before the big bang there was no time, there was nothing apart from a giant void filled with gas clouds, if there was nothing before the big bang and there was no time, how could there have been a creator? It's impossible.
IMO religion is just something forced on the new generations by their parents who were also forced into religion by their parents, or not forced but brought up round it until science was all bullshit and religion was correct, to them anyway, honestly I don't care what you believe, if you want to believe in religion and that god made everything you go ahead and do that, everyone has their own beliefs, and my belief is that 'god' was just the answer for things that the ancient human race couldn't explain such as shooting stars, earthquakes, solar eclipse's and other natural events.
It's like the current situation, a non-religious personal see's a light in the sky and the first thing to come to mind is 'UFO' - Unidentified Flying Object, which is usualy asumed to have aliens or some bullcrap inside, when UFO just means something thats flying that you can't identify, anyway it's like that, humans can't explain something so they will make something up in order to cure their curiosity, it's just the way I see things so by all means, continue to follow your religion if you believe in it. ;)
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Get out of here, if you're an atheist, doesnt mean everyone is. Get your attitude right... I could say a lot of things about British, speaking of that, but i wont go down to your level.
>Lithuanian
>"Argonath's Politician"
>Having anime avatar of Sasuke
>Ranting without making any sense.
How ridiculous can you be?
Post Merge: November 03, 2012, 01:37:58 pm
You're either a atheist, or you're religious, there is nothing else you can be.
There's also agnostic.
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>Lithuanian
>"Argonath's Politician"
>Having anime avatar of Sasuke
>Ranting without making any sense.
How ridiculous can you be?
Post Merge: November 03, 2012, 01:37:58 pm
>Estonian
>Belongs to nothing, achieved in Argonath nothing
(Besides, it's because i'm Argonath Democratical Movement Activist)
>Has no avatar at all
>Constantly crying over everything, reacting like everyone is enemy, making abusive and offensive, discriminating posts.
>Sending me PM's about him putting me to ignore lists, yet he replies to my posts?
P.S, i have reported this post, dont expect to get away with this.
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there was nothing apart from a giant void filled with gas clouds
Yep, how did that exist in first place?
if there was nothing before the big bang and there was no time, how could there have been a creator? It's impossible.
Because the creator is not the created?
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You all are on your own.
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Yep, how did that exist in first place?
Thats a completely unknown answer, ofc the void was there, but it wasn't big before the big bang, so what was round that void? There can't be nothing can there? But science says there was nothing because there was no time.. All confusing, but I wouldn't say it was 'god'.
Because the creator is not the created?
If the creator was created, there wouldn't be point in the creator, because if the creator could be created, we could have been created without the creator..
You all are on your own.
I gave you some scientific facts, and this is all you come back with? It shows TBH that even 'god' isnt an answer to what I said.
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ofc the void was there, but it wasn't big before the big bang, so what was round that void? There can't be nothing can there? But science says there was nothing because there was no time.. All confusing, but I wouldn't say it was 'god
How do you know, or they know, that there is a void or used to be a void before the big bang and outside of the universe? If it was a void as you/they said, then nothing should have existed as it was all empty. hence we shouldn't be here in the first place. Every created things has a creator. There is always a source for any type of energy.
we could have been created without the creator
Care to elaborate?
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excellent job derailing the thread.
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excellent job derailing the thread.
Commenting to increase your post count does not bring the thread back on track.
There are rumours circulating that all of this was a hoax, designed by the government to discredit the Taliban and turn everyone against them (There are still people who think they're doing a good job... yeah)
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Commenting to increase your post count does not bring the thread back on track.
Yes, exactly, I am fapping to my increasing post count because it gives me satisfaction and makes me more confident in the Internet!!!
Pathetic accusation tho.
Rumors are still rumors nonetheless, either way I doubt anyone else other than people living near that region actually cares about this whole issue. And in Pakistan its doubtful it will ever be revealed as a hoax, so nothing much will change if it comes true.
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I don't think the Taliban give two craps about what the western civilization thinks of them.
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I don't think the Taliban give two craps about what the western civilization thinks of them.
Why would they? :redface:
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I don't think the Taliban give two craps about what the western civilization thinks of them.
The thing is, the northern areas of Pakistan are constantly bombed by US drone fighters, so the people there are rather sympathetic with the Taliban cause, but such an incident, like the shooting of an innocent girl from that particular area, is rather extreme, and turns those people against them as well, so the next time, they won't be so willing to conceal them or help them in any way.