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Title: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Reece on January 24, 2013, 09:42:25 pm
North Korea said today is will carry out a nuclear test and sent a warning to its “sworn enemy” America.

The National Defence Commission, headed by leader Kim Jong-un, blamed the US for prompting a UN resolution that condemned its December rocket launch.

North Korea is banned from carrying out missile activity but said the launch had been a peaceful effort to send a satellite into space.

But in a sabre-rattling statement, it indicated its launches also have a military purpose.

It said: “Settling accounts with the U.S. needs to be done with force, not with words, as it regards jungle law as the rule of its survival.”

“A nuclear test... will target against the US, the sworn enemy of the Korean people.”

It is not clear when or where the test will take place but US envoy for North Korea Glyn Davies said earlier: “We call on them not to do it.”

The US had no immediate response but earlier its envoy Glyn Davies urged North Korea not to explode an atomic device.

“Whether North Korea tests or not, it’s up to North Korea. We hope they don’t do it. We call on them not to do it,” he said in Seoul.

“It will be a mistake and a missed opportunity if they were to do it.”
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: SugarD on January 24, 2013, 11:30:36 pm
Oh gawd...not another war.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Cross on January 25, 2013, 03:04:15 am
Thats how it goes.. North Korea launches nukes and South Korea launches Gangnam Style.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Dolfagr on January 25, 2013, 03:10:28 am
As long as they use their arsenal against legitimate military targets the rest of the world shouldn't have a problem.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Teddy on January 25, 2013, 03:20:27 am
Goodbye North Korea.

Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Chuck on January 25, 2013, 03:49:10 am
Breaking news, DPRK just released a video of the rocket launch.


(http://sadpanda.us/images/1368645-YR4H6FA.gif)
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Alan.Wake on January 25, 2013, 04:07:50 am
About time is all i can say.

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Goodbye North Korea.

Where one country follow the path to war, other follow as well.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Mikal on January 25, 2013, 05:04:40 pm
Goodbye North Korea.
Or the USA. :lol:

Breaking news, DPRK just released a video of the rocket launch.

(http://sadpanda.us/images/1368645-YR4H6FA.gif)
LOL.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Huntsman on January 25, 2013, 05:09:58 pm
It seems that the North Korea is getting wiped off the map. It's funny how a small defenseless country like that threatens a giant beast like US.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: [WS]Jacob on January 25, 2013, 05:47:29 pm
It seems that the North Korea is getting wiped off the map. It's funny how a small defenseless country like that threatens a giant beast like US.
Really it's who hits the button first. But yes it would be like the Falklands starting an attack against Russia, they just sign their own death certificate.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on January 25, 2013, 05:51:58 pm
+1 for Korea.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Teddy on January 25, 2013, 07:34:02 pm
Or the USA. :lol:

Ah, your a funny guy. That missile will never re-enter the atmosphere. The US, China and Russia and few other countries have the technology to take out a missile before it comes anywhere near their country. And I wouldn't anticipate the United States taking action on North Korea first, I'd be more worried about China doing something first.

+1 for Korea.

+1 for them placing their own citizens who don't have the right to leave in danger by risking all out war? #logic.

Really it's who hits the button first. But yes it would be like the Falklands starting an attack against Russia, they just sign their own death certificate.

North Korea knows what they are doing. I don't think they'll actually pull anything, they are just trying to prove that they aren't scared and won't take the US's shit. Which, I can understand honestly, we don't have a right to tell them they can't launch shit. But going as far as to tell us they're going to test a rocket aimed at us? Pretty dumb, and ignorant.

Nuclear technology in warfare shouldn't exist, in my eyes. It isn't designed to destroy leadership or designed to take out armies... its designed to kill civilians and make an economic crisis... Innocent civilians and a scale unimaginable. No country should have nuclear technology for anything other than power. That might just be me, but its not needed for anyone to have. Now look, a few loose nuts in some leaders head and he makes a nuclear threat to one of the leading nations in Nuclear Technology... smart.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Mikal on January 25, 2013, 08:13:18 pm
Ah, your a funny guy. That missile will never re-enter the atmosphere. The US, China and Russia and few other countries have the technology to take out a missile before it comes anywhere near their country. And I wouldn't anticipate the United States taking action on North Korea first, I'd be more worried about China doing something first.
Shitloads of countries have that technology.. It's nothing secret, how can you under-estimate them? What gives you the right? Also you never know, China and Russia may decide to help N.Korea, they arnt exactly the USA's friends. :lol:
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Dolfagr on January 25, 2013, 09:59:14 pm
Shitloads of countries have that technology.. It's nothing secret, how can you under-estimate them? What gives you the right? Also you never know, China and Russia may decide to help N.Korea, they arnt exactly the USA's friends. :lol:

I doubt if Russia even cares about the whole situation. China would do nothing since the rest of the world would implement an embargo on all their product exports and freeze their economy, causing civil unrest and so on.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Huntsman on January 25, 2013, 10:05:14 pm
I see that Russia is really not giving a shit about anything lately :D
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Alan.Wake on January 25, 2013, 10:51:24 pm
If a country has a technology that can give an advantage over their enemies, they would conceal it.

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I see that Russia is really not giving a shit about anything lately

Yes, the media always know what Russia is doing. :)
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Teddy on January 25, 2013, 11:24:11 pm
China and Russia may decide to help N.Korea, they arnt exactly the USA's friends. :lol:


LOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLO LOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOL


Who do you think is gonna shoot down that missile first? China would. China would help the United States cause well without us they are financially fucked. US with out them is the same, our economies are dependent on each other and China knows that. Man, why don't you get your biased attitude out of the 1980s and into the 21st century mate. Who was the first to speak out against North Korea last missile situation?  China was. Don't even post if you have no idea what your talking about, I know you love arguing but at least use fact. Russia won't get involved either. The first two nations that would take action would be China and South Korea both against North Korea either by attack or strong diplomatic intervention.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Mikal on January 25, 2013, 11:40:26 pm

LOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLO LOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOL


Who do you think is gonna shoot down that missile first? China would. China would help the United States cause well without us they are financially f**ked. US with out them is the same, our economies are dependent on each other and China knows that. Man, why don't you get your biased attitude out of the 1980s and into the 21st century mate. Who was the first to speak out against North Korea last missile situation?  China was. Don't even post if you have no idea what your talking about, I know you love arguing but at least use fact. Russia won't get involved either. The first two nations that would take action would be China and South Korea both against North Korea either by attack or strong diplomatic intervention.
LOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOL

What a load of shit, China sells to the WHOLE world, without the US they'd just lose a bit of profit, plus, all the US does is loan and loan and loan off China, they probibly had another loan whilst I was typing this.. :lol:
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Teddy on January 26, 2013, 12:00:01 am
LOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOL

What a load of shit, China sells to the WHOLE world, without the US they'd just lose a bit of profit, plus, all the US does is loan and loan and loan off China, they probibly had another loan whilst I was typing this.. :lol:

We made China what it is. China isn't going to aid North Korea, or wait.... Let me guess, you biases views tell you that UK made China and not the US so China won't care? They made the world too aye? Man, im not even gonna argue with you. Can't debate with someone who is so single focused bias man. I guess we'll find out with North Korea makes their move.

Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: SugarD on January 26, 2013, 12:07:50 am
It seems that the North Korea is getting wiped off the map. It's funny how a small defenseless country like that threatens a giant beast like US.
They aren't as defenseless as they seem. They may be a poorer country because of being a strict military state with access to the outside world cut off, but they can still pack a punch if a war is started.

Rule #1 of war: Never underestimate your enemy.

No matter how small or weak they may appear, tactics and nature can sometimes give them the upper hand.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Alan.Wake on January 26, 2013, 12:08:10 am
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We made China what it is. China isn't going to aid North Korea, or wait.... Let me guess, you biases views tell you that UK made China and not the US so China won't care? They made the world too aye? Man, im not even gonna argue with you. Can't debate with someone who is so single focused bias man. I guess we'll find out with North Korea makes their move.

It was some countries from the Eight-Nation Alliance that made China for what it is presently. It not only influenced by the U.S or the British Empire back during the New Imperialism.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on January 26, 2013, 01:04:31 am

LOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLO LOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOL


Who do you think is gonna shoot down that missile first? China would. China would help the United States cause well without us they are financially f**ked. US with out them is the same, our economies are dependent on each other and China knows that. Man, why don't you get your biased attitude out of the 1980s and into the 21st century mate. Who was the first to speak out against North Korea last missile situation?  China was. Don't even post if you have no idea what your talking about, I know you love arguing but at least use fact. Russia won't get involved either. The first two nations that would take action would be China and South Korea both against North Korea either by attack or strong diplomatic intervention.
No offense to you as a person but that's complete bullshit.
China already concurred the world economically wise. America is no longer the richest /  best / whatever country.
China doesn't need the USA at all.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Mikal on January 26, 2013, 01:30:01 am
We made China what it is. China isn't going to aid North Korea, or wait.... Let me guess, you biases views tell you that UK made China and not the US so China won't care? They made the world too aye? Man, im not even gonna argue with you. Can't debate with someone who is so single focused bias man. I guess we'll find out with North Korea makes their move.
China made China, their civilization stretches way way before the USA even existed, heck my local church is older than the USA.. They've been trading, building and growing for thousands of years, they were the 2nd biggest threat to the British Empire, after France of course, the USA's economy will never match that of China's, I'm not being biased at all, I'm being logical.. You laugh and call N.Korea names but they could be more dangerous than you think, they had a failed rocket launch and that gives you a reason to mock them? Shall I remind you of space shuttle Challenger which blew up and killed all of it's crew? Lets all laugh at America's failed rocket launch, though I won't because people lost their lives on it, same shit different story at the end of the day, atleast N.Korea's failed rocket did take any lives.. I might be a bit harsh here but I'm trying to make a point, and yes, the UK did make alot of the modern world we know and live in today, the steam engine, trains, computers, the internet, sonar technology, radar, telephone communications, I could go on but I won't bother as the USA is still the best country in the world..

Nobody outside of China made China, only China did.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Teddy on January 26, 2013, 02:22:25 am
China made China, their civilization stretches way way before the USA even existed, heck my local church is older than the USA.. They've been trading, building and growing for thousands of years, they were the 2nd biggest threat to the British Empire, after France of course, the USA's economy will never match that of China's, I'm not being biased at all, I'm being logical.. You laugh and call N.Korea names but they could be more dangerous than you think, they had a failed rocket launch and that gives you a reason to mock them? Shall I remind you of space shuttle Challenger which blew up and killed all of it's crew? Lets all laugh at America's failed rocket launch, though I won't because people lost their lives on it, same shit different story at the end of the day, atleast N.Korea's failed rocket did take any lives.. I might be a bit harsh here but I'm trying to make a point, and yes, the UK did make alot of the modern world we know and live in today, the steam engine, trains, computers, the internet, sonar technology, radar, telephone communications, I could go on but I won't bother as the USA is still the best country in the world..

Nobody outside of China made China, only China did.

Okay, let me be more specific.... USA didn't make China so to speak. Walmart provided China with a large-scale production chance which is now the economic downfall of many countries. As history would tell Walmart stopped buying goods in all countries from local manufactures due to prices, and invested in Chinese capital to build factories to produce these electronic goods much more faster and cheaper, this eventually spread to more companies and more types of goods. China was a large player since the age of discovery and even as farther back in trade yes I know. But what I meant was Walmart really changed the face of China's production.

I don't mock North Korea for their failed attempts, They simply do not have the force or means to compete against the United States. They do not have the technology that the United States and its many allies around the world have. Due to the United States, United Kingdom and various other counties around the would we can know the exact second a missile is launched and I can assure you that if a missile is launched and directed at the United States, Japan or any other country that, that missile will not leave the Korean peninsula. Some country around there will take that missile down. If that fails, the United States has a 3 level anti-missile system. The first is the atmospheric one, this is a missile launched to counter the missile as it re-enters the atmosphere. The second and most effective is guided missile to directly detonate the incoming missile. The last one, which can still have negative effects is the same system as before although with human guided missile and is locally manged via hundreds of sites located around the United States on 24/7 watch and monitoring. Not to mention as soon as the missile is eliminated you can assure a missile carrying a very deadly and disgusting nuclear device is going to be directly targeted at North Korea. The United States will respond immediately, it will be a very bad day for not only North Korea or the United States but will also have an impact all over the world. Regardless of either way, if North Korea launches a nuclear device at the United States millions of innocent people are going to die and I'd have my faith in thinking that it'll be North Koreans and not Americans just in the face of our technology and our global partnership efforts around the world.


Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Huntsman on January 26, 2013, 08:56:32 am
I've always said that World War III will begin in Korean Peninsula. And my predictions seem to come true.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Chuck on January 26, 2013, 08:58:08 am
I've always said that World War III will begin in Korean Peninsula. And my predictions seem to come true.

None of your prediction/s has come true yet.

Don't assume too much, your misinformation could be detrimental to others.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Dolfagr on January 26, 2013, 11:53:37 am
Rule #1 of war: Never underestimate your enemy.

No matter how small or weak they may appear, tactics and nature can sometimes give them the upper hand.

Exactly, take a look at Vietnam or Finland / Afghanistan and see what happened to the super powers.



I've always said that World War III will begin in Korean Peninsula. And my predictions seem to come true.

Don't be a conspiracy theorist. First people were like WW3 will begin in Syria, now Korea. Okay whatever, let's just hope it doesn't happen cause we wouldn't survive it.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Mikal on January 26, 2013, 02:51:05 pm
Okay, let me be more specific.... USA didn't make China so to speak. Walmart provided China with a large-scale production chance which is now the economic downfall of many countries. As history would tell Walmart stopped buying goods in all countries from local manufactures due to prices, and invested in Chinese capital to build factories to produce these electronic goods much more faster and cheaper, this eventually spread to more companies and more types of goods. China was a large player since the age of discovery and even as farther back in trade yes I know. But what I meant was Walmart really changed the face of China's production.

I don't mock North Korea for their failed attempts, They simply do not have the force or means to compete against the United States. They do not have the technology that the United States and its many allies around the world have. Due to the United States, United Kingdom and various other counties around the would we can know the exact second a missile is launched and I can assure you that if a missile is launched and directed at the United States, Japan or any other country that, that missile will not leave the Korean peninsula. Some country around there will take that missile down. If that fails, the United States has a 3 level anti-missile system. The first is the atmospheric one, this is a missile launched to counter the missile as it re-enters the atmosphere. The second and most effective is guided missile to directly detonate the incoming missile. The last one, which can still have negative effects is the same system as before although with human guided missile and is locally manged via hundreds of sites located around the United States on 24/7 watch and monitoring. Not to mention as soon as the missile is eliminated you can assure a missile carrying a very deadly and disgusting nuclear device is going to be directly targeted at North Korea. The United States will respond immediately, it will be a very bad day for not only North Korea or the United States but will also have an impact all over the world. Regardless of either way, if North Korea launches a nuclear device at the United States millions of innocent people are going to die and I'd have my faith in thinking that it'll be North Koreans and not Americans just in the face of our technology and our global partnership efforts around the world.
Wether that's true or not, Wal Mart wasn't the only company buying goods from China, nearly every country in the world has helped their massive economy grow, China doesn't just produce electrical equipment either, it's all that plastic that's used in nearly EVERYTHING.

If North Korea is as weak as you say they are, why are they still here? Why did they kick the USA's ass back to South Korea/USA and keep them on their feet for all these years with a constant border watch and constant US soldiers based in South Korea? Do you know the SAS saying 'Who dares wins'? It seems North Korea dares, though they won't win, they'll fight to the death and cause major problems for the US, just as they did during the N.Korea war, no matter how many missiles the US or North Korea has, it's what it's soldiers do on the ground that counts, and from what I've heard North Korea's soldiers are war hungry gorilla's waiting for 'revenge' on the US because their leader constantly feeds them anti-US bullshit, they won't sit in a small pit firing off rounds, they'll be stabbing arses with knives no matter how much of an arse kicking they get.

I might sound anti-American here, which I'm not, but I'm just trying to say whats true, the USA could kick their arse and blow them up with shitloads of missiles yes, but at the end of the day North Korea will just keep fighting, arguing and throwing shit at the US no matter wether you win the war or not.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Huntsman on January 26, 2013, 03:10:02 pm
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I might sound anti-American here, which I'm not,

You Serious? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4#ws)
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Mikal on January 26, 2013, 03:14:30 pm
You Serious? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4#ws)
I'm serious. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A5t5_O8hdA#)
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: MrFrancis on January 26, 2013, 04:10:03 pm
let's just hope it doesn't happen cause we wouldn't survive it.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: [WS]Jacob on January 26, 2013, 04:18:26 pm
the USA could kick their arse and blow them up with shitloads of missiles yes, but at the end of the day North Korea will just keep fighting, arguing and throwing shit at the US no matter wether you win the war or not.
I doubt that the US would attack N Korea unless they thought they were in imminent danger. But if this happens I'm sure it can start off something that is huge and separate a lot of countries.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Rocky on January 26, 2013, 04:39:04 pm
Luckly i live in indonesia,far from korea,far from US aswell.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Mikal on January 26, 2013, 06:10:52 pm
I doubt that the US would attack N Korea unless they thought they were in imminent danger. But if this happens I'm sure it can start off something that is huge and separate a lot of countries.
Well this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki) wasn't really needed but they still did it. :poke:
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Cofiliano on January 26, 2013, 06:13:17 pm
Push the button
The Chemical Brothers- Galvanize (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2hzVV2Nwfs#)
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Mikal on January 26, 2013, 06:29:36 pm
Push the button
The Chemical Brothers- Galvanize (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2hzVV2Nwfs#)
This video is blocked in the UK under copyright grounds. :razz:
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Teddy on January 26, 2013, 06:30:21 pm
Wether that's true or not, Wal Mart wasn't the only company buying goods from China, nearly every country in the world has helped their massive economy grow, China doesn't just produce electrical equipment either, it's all that plastic that's used in nearly EVERYTHING.

If North Korea is as weak as you say they are, why are they still here? Why did they kick the USA's ass back to South Korea/USA and keep them on their feet for all these years with a constant border watch and constant US soldiers based in South Korea? Do you know the SAS saying 'Who dares wins'? It seems North Korea dares, though they won't win, they'll fight to the death and cause major problems for the US, just as they did during the N.Korea war, no matter how many missiles the US or North Korea has, it's what it's soldiers do on the ground that counts, and from what I've heard North Korea's soldiers are war hungry gorilla's waiting for 'revenge' on the US because their leader constantly feeds them anti-US bullshit, they won't sit in a small pit firing off rounds, they'll be stabbing arses with knives no matter how much of an arse kicking they get.

I might sound anti-American here, which I'm not, but I'm just trying to say whats true, the USA could kick their arse and blow them up with shitloads of missiles yes, but at the end of the day North Korea will just keep fighting, arguing and throwing shit at the US no matter wether you win the war or not.

I never said it was just electrical, but it was what started the major factorization of China courtesy of Wal Mart. I did mention it carried on to other products and companies. The main point I guess as to why they are still around is that diplomatic solutions always try to come first. The United States can't just attack someone over some threats, unless action is taken against us will use use that as a retaliation. While your points do stand clear, the United Nations main focus on North Korea is humanitarian aid, something constantly denied and while North Korea's actions have never been a direct act against the United States which is why they continue to stand I don't think the United States nor any country would actually eliminate the country. I feel the solution would just send in a Seal Team to eliminate the leadership and do something like a Coup d'état.

Also, by no means is North Korea 'weak' as nation or leadership. They have incredible leadership, otherwise how would they get the citizens to believe half the shit they do, you think United States Media brainwashing is bad, hell there its like 90% worse with media control and true false information. Regardless, they do have quite a force and standing army and to equal size forces they'd stand a chance and a damn good one. But targeting the United States is suicide.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Kavensky on January 26, 2013, 06:42:58 pm
Breaking news:
Russia doesn't care that much even that they drink Vodka while watching you guys argue.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Mikal on January 26, 2013, 06:45:45 pm
I feel the solution would just send in a Seal Team to eliminate the leadership and do something like a Coup d'état.
You know how hard it is to enter North Korea right? Even to exit it for that matter.. BBC got a one time only chance to go to North Korea and record, whilst they were inside one of the BBC photographers laid down on the ground with his camera to get a picture of their dead ex-leaders statue, they instantly dragged him off the ground and threatend to kick him out of N.Korea, they even have a bench in a bullet proof glass case, because the dead ex-leader once sat on it.. What the fuck happens there, seems like they brainwash everyone of their citizens to worship them down to their last hair, it's horrible.. The whole of North Korea is like a prison for it's people who haven't done anything wrong to sit in for their whole lives.

But still the chance of any military getting in and out alive is highly unlikely IMO..

Breaking news:
Russia doesn't care that much even that they drink Vodka while watching you guys argue.
In Soviet Russia, Vodka drink you!
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Teddy on January 26, 2013, 09:36:15 pm
You know how hard it is to enter North Korea right? Even to exit it for that matter.. BBC got a one time only chance to go to North Korea and record, whilst they were inside one of the BBC photographers laid down on the ground with his camera to get a picture of their dead ex-leaders statue, they instantly dragged him off the ground and threatend to kick him out of N.Korea, they even have a bench in a bullet proof glass case, because the dead ex-leader once sat on it.. What the f**k happens there, seems like they brainwash everyone of their citizens to worship them down to their last hair, it's horrible.. The whole of North Korea is like a prison for it's people who haven't done anything wrong to sit in for their whole lives.

You know this is what Navy Seals and other world covert special forces do for a living right? Going behind enemy lines in nearly impossible situations is their specially.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Mikal on January 26, 2013, 09:46:51 pm
You know this is what Navy Seals and other world covert special forces do for a living right? Going behind enemy lines in nearly impossible situations is their specially.
Navy SEALs arnt a special force, Delta Force is special forces, like the SAS.. :razz:

And I guess I forgot a main thing, North Korea has ocean on both sides which could easily be used to get in by special forces, aslong as theres to mines in the water of course, which knowing N.Korea there would be.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: SugarD on January 26, 2013, 09:51:53 pm
Navy SEALs arnt a special force, Delta Force is special forces, like the SAS.. :razz:
Don't forget that there are also divisions in the Military like Black Ops, Covert Ops, Special Ops, and I'm sure at least 3 dozen randomly-named ones we don't know about.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Mikal on January 26, 2013, 09:54:02 pm
Don't forget that there are also divisions in the Military like Black Ops, Covert Ops, Special Ops, and I'm sure at least 3 dozen randomly-named ones we don't know about.
Most militarys have 1 division specificly trained at special ops and black ops, the US SEALs, Royal Marines, so on are seen every day on the common battlefield, where as Delta Force, the SAS, every other special force arnt..
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: SugarD on January 26, 2013, 09:58:25 pm
Most militarys have 1 division specificly trained at special ops and black ops, the US SEALs, Royal Marines, so on are seen every day on the common battlefield, where as Delta Force, the SAS, every other special force arnt..
One publicly known, yes. There are often many temporary and permanent groups that most are unaware of, though. Some are disregarded as non-existent even when the public knows about them, such as how SEAL Team Six used to be, and others are so far unknown about that only select groups of people are aware of their existence. Some even start out in the "select group" situation, and later become known about within the public after certain acts or incidents occur.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Teddy on January 26, 2013, 10:47:16 pm
Most militarys have 1 division specificly trained at special ops and black ops, the US SEALs, Royal Marines, so on are seen every day on the common battlefield, where as Delta Force, the SAS, every other special force arnt..

Navy Seals are black ops special forces, some of the most skilled people in world... Man my step grandfather was a Navy Seal, they didn't do anything on the common battlefield. They are covert ops, behind enemy lines hostage rescues, tactical assassinations and things like that. US Marine Force Recon, United States Green Beret are the ones on the "common battlefield".
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Dolfagr on January 26, 2013, 10:49:35 pm
Breaking news:
Russia doesn't care that much even that they drink Vodka while watching you guys argue.

That's not because they're bosses but because they have their own worse problems.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Mikal on January 27, 2013, 01:28:30 am
Navy Seals are black ops special forces, some of the most skilled people in world... Man my step grandfather was a Navy Seal, they didn't do anything on the common battlefield. They are covert ops, behind enemy lines hostage rescues, tactical assassinations and things like that. US Marine Force Recon, United States Green Beret are the ones on the "common battlefield".
Sorry if I offend you, but SEALs are ignorant trigger happy morons in my opinion.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: SugarD on January 27, 2013, 02:09:27 am
Sorry if I offend you, but SEALs are ignorant trigger happy morons in my opinion.
Trigger happy? They are one of the most heavily trained special operations groups in the world.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Caltson on January 27, 2013, 02:16:16 am
Sorry if I offend you, but SEALs are ignorant trigger happy morons in my opinion.

On what experience with the SEAL's do you base that opinion?
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Dutchy on January 27, 2013, 02:30:15 am
On what experience with the SEAL's do you base that opinion?

The pacifier.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: MikeZ on January 27, 2013, 02:32:48 am
Pretty obvious that if North Korea  tryed to launch any nuclear device at the united states it would be shot down in seconds and a counter nuke would be launched,  whipeing North Korea off the planet within miniutes.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Luke on January 27, 2013, 02:37:04 am
Pretty obvious that if North Korea  tryed to launch any nuclear device at the united states it would be shot down in seconds and a counter nuke would be launched,  whipeing North Korea off the planet within miniutes.

also the UK, because we have nuclear subs, on the coast of many countries, so they'd be ruined haha
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Chuck on January 27, 2013, 02:38:35 am
Pretty obvious that if North Korea  tryed to launch any nuclear device at the united states it would be shot down in seconds and a counter nuke would be launched,  whipeing North Korea off the planet within miniutes.

also the UK, because we have nuclear subs, on the coast of many countries, so they'd be ruined haha

"He who exercises no forethought but makes light of his opponents is sure to be captured by them." - Sun Tzu
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Mikal on January 27, 2013, 02:31:25 pm
On what experience with the SEAL's do you base that opinion?
Youtube, documentaries, pretty much everything with a SEAL in it..
They think they are the best, they are really just ignorant soldiers who joined the SEALs after submitting a simple application that would be lost without a gun. :poke:
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Grizz on January 27, 2013, 02:35:53 pm
North Koreans have used United States accounts for too long! :mad:
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Mario_Rinna on January 27, 2013, 04:02:47 pm
That's not because they're bosses but because they have their own worse problems.
Name them, please.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Dolfagr on January 27, 2013, 05:12:30 pm
Name them, please.

Structure problems and a weak democracy to begin with. Additionally, environmental, social, human rights, cultural and religious, oh and international affairs. Russia's economy is developing however the fact is that Russia does have problems and big ones like every other country.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Mario_Rinna on January 27, 2013, 06:14:18 pm
Structure problems and a weak democracy to begin with. Additionally, environmental, social, human rights, cultural and religious, oh and international affairs. Russia's economy is developing however the fact is that Russia does have problems and big ones like every other country.
And this is worse than possibility of nuclear war?

You don't seem to know anything about Russia; otherwise, you would have realized we had some of these "problems" 1,000 years ago and we still have them now — they are not problems because that's the way Russia was, is, and always will be.

Sophistry won't work here; we are not in Ancient Greece.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: MikeZ on January 27, 2013, 06:32:25 pm
Youtube, documentaries, pretty much everything with a SEAL in it..
They think they are the best, they are really just ignorant soldiers who joined the SEALs after submitting a simple application that would be lost without a gun. :poke:
Its not as easy as you think they have to go through a very rigorous training process and are infact the best at what they do.  your just being ignorant.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: JayL on January 27, 2013, 06:43:50 pm
It seems that the North Korea is getting wiped off the map. It's funny how a small defenseless country like that threatens a giant beast like US.

Doesn't the history of Lithuania teach you that this sort of ass kissing only gets you in problems?

Anyway... while the possibility of North Korea doing damage to somebody such as the USA is not zero, it's not their point. The whole ''settle accounts with USA'' is just oratory. While people love to remark that North Korea has little capacity of attack, their capacity of internal defense is strong and is most of the time ignored/underestimated.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: SugarD on January 27, 2013, 08:08:14 pm
They think they are the best, they are really just ignorant soldiers who joined the SEALs after submitting a simple application that would be lost without a gun. :poke:
I seriously hope you're kidding. They go through some of the toughest trainings in the world, assuming they make it through the application process at all. Even during trainings, they try to get rid of as many people as they can. Very, very few people ever make it all the way through the process.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Teddy on January 27, 2013, 11:30:44 pm
Quote
They think they are the best, they are really just ignorant soldiers who joined the SEALs after submitting a simple application that would be lost without a gun.
I seriously hope you're kidding. They go through some of the toughest trainings in the world, assuming they make it through the application process at all. Even during trainings, they try to get rid of as many people as they can. Very, very few people ever make it all the way through the process.

Indeed. Within the first hour of Navy Seals bootcamp at least half the class will withdraw. Additionally, it isn't a simple application so you are watching the wrong videos. You don't know the half of it, and you need to be selected to be a SEAL theres no application to directly join them. Ignorant is what you are being not that of Seal, and they aren't soldiers..  they are sailors.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Mikal on January 27, 2013, 11:42:43 pm
I seriously hope you're kidding. They go through some of the toughest trainings in the world, assuming they make it through the application process at all. Even during trainings, they try to get rid of as many people as they can. Very, very few people ever make it all the way through the process.
I've seen their training process, yes it's hard, but they still all think they are the best, when they truly are not..
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: SugarD on January 28, 2013, 12:05:08 am
I've seen their training process, yes it's hard, but they still all think they are the best, when they truly are not..
They are one of the best. There is no single "best" group.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Mikal on January 28, 2013, 01:47:57 am
They are one of the best. There is no single "best" group.
No man, they think they are..

The SEALs training is actually quite simple, with most special forces you have to have had 2-3 years already served in the military, with the SEALs you can just submit a straight up application and start training.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: SugarD on January 28, 2013, 02:44:22 am
No man, they think they are..

The SEALs training is actually quite simple, with most special forces you have to have had 2-3 years already served in the military, with the SEALs you can just submit a straight up application and start training.
No you don't. Did you not even read what Teddy said?
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: KhornateMonkey on January 28, 2013, 03:08:02 am
I hope NK see's some light, but then again, NK can be very unpredictable
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Patton on January 28, 2013, 03:59:31 pm
No country should have nuclear technology for anything other than power.
There are many more applications of nuclear technology besides nuclear power and weapons. :redface:
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Teddy on January 28, 2013, 07:28:27 pm
There are many more applications of nuclear technology besides nuclear power and weapons. :redface:

Hmm, well any other use that isn't designed to kill thousands and thousands of innocent people is fine. Nuclear technology in warfare is not needed.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: [WS]Jacob on January 28, 2013, 11:10:02 pm
Yes although we can use nuclear technology to make power this is still very risky and any damage to the reactor can cause massive destruction which we saw in Japan last year. Even still they are removing some of that radioactive waste. As yet there's no real safe use to nuclear technology without it going terribly wrong.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Mikal on January 28, 2013, 11:19:46 pm
Nuclear technology can be used to launch rockets far out (They have to be in space first). :D
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Teddy on January 29, 2013, 09:44:49 pm
Yes although we can use nuclear technology to make power this is still very risky and any damage to the reactor can cause massive destruction which we saw in Japan last year. Even still they are removing some of that radioactive waste. As yet there's no real safe use to nuclear technology without it going terribly wrong.

Japan was a scare. Chernobyl is a more realistic example of nuclear power going terribly wrong, or the 'Three Mile Island' incident.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Patton on January 29, 2013, 09:46:33 pm
As yet there's no real safe use to nuclear technology without it going terribly wrong.
Yes there is — nuclear technology is being used on a daily basis in various areas of industry and medicine; there's a big chance you probably used a product or a service that used nuclear technology at some point of its production or execution.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: [WS]Jacob on January 29, 2013, 09:49:41 pm
Yes there is — nuclear technology is being used on a daily basis in various areas of industry and medicine; there's a big chance you probably used a product or a service that used nuclear technology at some point of its production or execution.
Even still they have to be stored in a safe way and if the container carrying the radioactive substance were broken it could cause a few problems.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Cofiliano on February 02, 2013, 04:35:14 am
LOL on SEALS being in the same context with an attack on North Korea.

Vietnam would look like a heaven dream, comparing what would  happen if USA/NATO attempts invading Korea.
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Jellyfish on February 02, 2013, 12:17:54 pm
That would be scary for the US, tho most of our friends in Argonath are legal to apply for exemption so they don't need to serve in the war (which would last for... ever)
Title: Re: North Korea plans nuclear tests to "settle accounts with the US"
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on February 02, 2013, 11:49:18 pm
Vietnam would look like a heaven dream, comparing what would  happen if USA/NATO attempts invading Korea.
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