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Title: Namechanges.
Post by: Thom on February 09, 2013, 07:19:14 pm
I respect that Traser said at a topic (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=80123.0) about why namechanges aren't allowed and i fully agree with him.But,why don't have an opportunity to request to someone a changename with the Reason: .The case will be clearled for the last like 20-30 posts to see his past.But if they fail with the test and they accept the namechange,Why don't we make a new feature to have under someone's name his old names?I know that the server uses SMF,but we can make modification about that and then install it. I'm not sure yet if this goes to SA:MP Ideas.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Phil on February 09, 2013, 07:20:17 pm
This is where it should go:
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?board=108.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?board=108.0)
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Hidduh on February 11, 2013, 09:33:24 pm
This is where it should go:
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?board=108.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?board=108.0)

Why? This is an idea for a new feature..

As for your idea, I think it's possible. In my opinion, namechanges should only be allowed once, or once in six months.. else people will request namechanges like crazy.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: ~Legend~ on February 13, 2013, 08:38:16 pm
I assume forum name changes? :)


They used to be allowed a few years back but that was changed and made less liberal.
The feature is very much there, inbuilt in SMF. All accounts' display names (what you see, essentially, as forum name) can be changed, although the username (which is the name you used to create account with) remains.

It's understandable if people return after a long time and find that they have a name which is no longer suitable or had references to a team/clan, for instance, which doesn't apply to them anymore. In such cases it would be nice if the option was still around.

Argonath Administration has grown considerably and I am sure there would be time and space to accommodate some kind of a request feature for name changes, possibly? Some limitations to prevent excessive changes could ensure that it's an efficient system.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: SugarD on February 14, 2013, 12:42:09 am
Why don't we make a new feature to have under someone's name his old names?
It already exists. Those with specific rights in SMF can track a user's activity, which lists all changes to their account, including display/usernames.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: AK47 on May 28, 2013, 01:29:57 am
In my opinion, namechanges should only be allowed once, or once in six months..



Or maybe every third month.

Bump, we need this, no obe will be harmed by it.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Mr. Goobii on May 30, 2013, 02:37:04 am
Great idea, we once had forum name changes, put I guess the admins got to tired changing forum name changes all the time, so they stopped.. Anyway, if we could do it automatic, I'll support it!  ;)
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Que on May 30, 2013, 02:58:12 am
If I remember correctly, there was plenty of individuals who pretty much misused their right to change name and did it multiple times in a short period of time.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Antonio. on May 30, 2013, 03:10:06 am
If everyone could just stick to one forum name, then we wouldn't have this problem.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Teddy on May 30, 2013, 04:30:33 am
If I remember correctly, there was plenty of individuals who pretty much misused their right to change name and did it multiple times in a short period of time.

This.

If everyone could just stick to one forum name, then we wouldn't have this problem.

This.



Some of you change your names more than a girl does her clothes in a single day... its outrageous.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Leroy_Kolta on May 30, 2013, 04:52:18 am
Some of you change your names more than a girl does her clothes in a single day... its outrageous.
Ofcourse you know Pedo xD

Yeah, I would like a forum name change every 6 months to a year, that sounds reasonable.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: SugarD on May 30, 2013, 05:15:02 am
Ofcourse you know Pedo xD

Yeah, I would like a forum name change every 6 months to a year, that sounds reasonable.
1. Don't flame.

2. How is that at all reasonable?

Your username is what you are identified by and log in with. It is not a flashy display showcase for you to advertise your latest clan tag in. You have signatures, custom titles, and personal text fields for that. Pick a name that represents you without any group if you don't want to deal with not being able to change it.

It's not a roleplay name, either. It's your account name.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: EliteTerm on May 30, 2013, 05:53:37 am
Personally, the names you pick for the forum/ servers should be unique. If you decide to change your name after players are used to it will only cause confusion.

Your username is what you are identified by and log in with. It is not a flashy display showcase for you to advertise your latest clan tag in. You have signatures, custom titles, and personal text fields for that. Pick a name that represents you without any group if you don't want to deal with not being able to change it.

It's not a roleplay name, either. It's your account name.

It'd be like Gandalf changing his name to Ian_McKellen.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Que on May 30, 2013, 05:58:31 am
I do understand why some people would like to change their forum name though. Some individuals might rush through the making and then founds out that this is a prodigious place to be at.
But the very best way is simply to do as EliteTerm just said - pick a unique name from the beginning and don't rush through the making of an account. You might be stuck here forever!  ;)
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: TheLegitHabibi on May 30, 2013, 06:56:15 am
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Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: SugarD on May 30, 2013, 06:41:15 pm
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Love it. Just absolutely love it. Sums up the entire topic.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Webster on May 30, 2013, 06:43:58 pm
Make it changeable every 6 months.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Phil on May 30, 2013, 06:44:59 pm
Unless there are too many of people similar to your forum name example:

example
example1
example2
etc etc

This is the only time I'd say you should ask for a namechange. Clearly... that would cause a confussion.

However;

Your username is what you are identified by and log in with. It is not a flashy display showcase for you to advertise your latest clan tag in. You have signatures, custom titles, and personal text fields for that. Pick a name that represents you without any group if you don't want to deal with not being able to change it.

It's not a roleplay name, either. It's your account name.

This.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: clancker on May 30, 2013, 06:46:33 pm
my idea is to have rights of 2 name changes and not more
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: SugarD on May 30, 2013, 06:47:18 pm
my idea is to have rights of 2 name changes and not more
There is no reason to need to have your name ever changed. If there is a serious issue that is leading to it being absolutely changed, that would be one of the times you would contact a forum Administrator regarding it.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Gird3r on May 30, 2013, 06:48:39 pm
Over the past month or more, I've had people talk with me trough PM ingame saying they know me.

That's great and all, for you that is. But I have no idea who the fuck they are until they either tell me, or I have to strike up a conversation.
Not only does it feel wierd, it also confuses the everliving fuck out of me. People claiming to be X and Y.


I do not want the same on the forums, people need to have a reasonable reason to change their name, not just as a fashion statement or whatever.
Besides, it's getting annoying enough ingame.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Luke on May 30, 2013, 06:50:06 pm
Personally in my opnion i like the idea of what everyone else said about having it so you can only change it every 6 months, as i feel my needs a change as it is nothing to do with me in any way, so therefore that would be a good reason for a change, but as everyone else said it should be limited to once every 6 months. Cant see a reason why not, if people abuse it or it dosent work out properly then remove it, worth a try i say.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: SugarD on May 30, 2013, 06:52:19 pm
Over the past month or more, I've had people talk with me trough PM ingame saying they know me.

That's great and all, for you that is. But I have no idea who the f**k they are until they either tell me, or I have to strike up a conversation.
Not only does it feel wierd, it also confuses the everliving f**k out of me. People claiming to be X and Y.


I do not want the same on the forums, people need to have a reasonable reason to change their name, not just as a fashion statement or whatever.
Besides, it's getting annoying enough ingame.
Exactly. People also need to keep in mind that impersonating has never been allowed in this community, so if you see such a thing, you should be contacting a forum or game server Administrator about it anyway. It would only result in their name being changed, not your's.

Personally in my opnion i like the idea of what everyone else said about having it so you can only change it every 6 months, as i feel my needs a change as it is nothing to do with me in any way, so therefore that would be a good reason for a change, but as everyone else said it should be limited to once every 6 months. Cant see a reason why not, if people abuse it or it dosent work out properly then remove it, worth a try i say.
There is no reason to in the first place. People shouldn't be trying to hide themselves from the community so they can get away with things, for starters. Secondly, the only other reason why anyone changes their name is because they want to display it as a new player identity. As I mentioned before, the forum already gives you several other places to do that. Your forum name is nothing more than an account name and identifier to you as a person. Unless there is a serious issue which requires you to contact a forum Administrator to fix, there is no reason for people to be changing their names at all. It is not a method for advertising your group tags or RP names.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Bundy on May 30, 2013, 06:52:40 pm
I remember DellStorm doing forum namechanges for a while. Not sure if he still does..

Anyway, I think people should be able to change their forum name at least once. That wouldn't be such a big of a problem, I guess.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Kaze on May 30, 2013, 06:53:12 pm
Not necessary. A name change is only reasonable if there are 33 Kazes in the server and you want to change to avoid confusion. If that is the case then why not?
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Luke on May 30, 2013, 06:54:01 pm
I remember DellStorm doing forum namechanges for a while. Not sure if he still does..

Anyway, I think people should be able to change their forum name at least once. That wouldn't be such a big of a problem, I guess.

Esactly, there shouldnt be a problem?
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: SugarD on May 30, 2013, 06:55:06 pm
I remember DellStorm doing forum namechanges for a while. Not sure if he still does..

Anyway, I think people should be able to change their forum name at least once. That wouldn't be such a big of a problem, I guess.
1. He did when there were issues with existing names.
2. Why? There is no reason to. If they screwed up their name from the start, and it is that serious of an issue to them, they can contact a forum Administrator to explain the problem.

Not necessary. A name change is only reasonable if there are 33 Kazes in the server and you want to change to avoid confusion. If that is the case then why not?
Exactly. Even in this case, you should be contacting forum and game server Administrators regarding the issue to resolve it anyway.

Esactly, there shouldnt be a problem?
There is. People misuse the ability. Why would they need the "one chance" anyway? If they screwed up their name, again, contact a forum Administrator and explain the issue.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: AK47 on May 30, 2013, 07:37:44 pm
So you mean that everyone that wants a new name needs to make a new account? What if I really really really don't want my name? The answer I get when I ask is "sorry mate, that's not enough for a namechange".

And that forces you to make a new account and that "floods" the forum with new accounts and old ones just being "left behind".
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: SugarD on May 30, 2013, 08:03:32 pm
So you mean that everyone that wants a new name needs to make a new account? What if I really really really don't want my name? The answer I get when I ask is "sorry mate, that's not enough for a namechange".

And that forces you to make a new account and that "floods" the forum with new accounts and old ones just being "left behind".
No, you just deal with it. You made the choice to pick the name you wanted. If you no longer want it, that is your fault, not the forum's.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Marcel on May 30, 2013, 08:15:24 pm
There is no reason to need to have your name ever changed. If there is a serious issue that is leading to it being absolutely changed, that would be one of the times you would contact a forum Administrator regarding it.

Wait, wasn't your forum name [LA]SugarD? That sounds a bit hypocrite to me.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: SugarD on May 30, 2013, 08:18:50 pm
Wait, wasn't your forum name [LA]SugarD? That sounds a bit hypocrite to me.
When I signed up years ago, yes. You really have no room to be talking with your clan tag, so I suggest you keep the provocative comments out of this topic.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Sawyer on May 30, 2013, 08:19:42 pm
I personally could change name every week, but I prefer the way it is now. Afterall it's only a nickname for you to be recognized.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Marcel on May 30, 2013, 08:20:01 pm
When I signed up years ago, yes. You really have no room to be talking with your clan tag, so I suggest you keep the provocative comments out of this topic.

Noany provocation, however it does directly contradict what you posted in this topic.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Devin on May 30, 2013, 08:21:03 pm
Your name has also been changed on the forums, don't be so fast to throw words around.  ;)
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: SugarD on May 30, 2013, 08:22:19 pm
Noany provocation, however it does directly contradict what you posted in this topic.
Actually it doesn't. I PM'ed a forum Administrator stating that I didn't realize back when I signed up years ago that SMF didn't allow namechanges like PHPBB. They made the decision to remove the clan tag from my display name, not the login one. As said, if you have an issue with your name that is that bothersome to you, PM a forum Administrator. There is nothing hypocritical about that.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Marcel on May 30, 2013, 08:23:28 pm
Your name has also been changed on the forums, don't be so fast to throw words around.  ;)

Indeed, i got it changed. Which is also why i agree with the (limited) ability to have it changed in the first place ;)
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: SugarD on May 30, 2013, 08:24:59 pm
Which is also why i agree with the (limited) ability to have it changed in the first place ;)
There is no legitimate need to change it. If you have a circumstance that you feel needs it changed that badly, and you feel it actually is legitimate, PM a forum Administrator explaining why.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: AK47 on May 30, 2013, 08:26:48 pm
Well, I'll make a new account then.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: SugarD on May 30, 2013, 08:27:42 pm
Well, I'll make a new account then.
Then you are just abusing forum abilities to bypass something you are disallowed to use. Last I checked, that in itself was bannable in this community.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: Marcel on May 30, 2013, 08:29:55 pm
There is no legitimate need to change it. If you have a circumstance that you feel needs it changed that badly, and you feel it actually is legitimate, PM a forum Administrator explaining why.

Well some people have had a change of nickname that rendered their forum name unrecognizable, such as myself. No-one knew that MdeRooy had become DHR.Marcel and as such could not link my forum posts to in-game and vice versa.

I'm not saying that anyone should be able to change their name at any time, but like once per 6 months should be fine.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: SugarD on May 30, 2013, 08:30:49 pm
Well some people have had a change of nickname that rendered their forum name unrecognizable, such as myself. No-one knew that MdeRooy had become DHR.Marcel and as such could not link my forum posts to in-game and vice versa.

I'm not saying that anyone should be able to change their name at any time, but like once per 6 months should be fine.
Then don't change your IG nickname? Your name is not a roleplay name. Pick one and stick with it.

We are not a strict RP community. We don't recognize usernames as being roleplay names. It seems some here have yet to realize this...
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: AK47 on May 30, 2013, 08:31:55 pm
Well I think it is complete bullshit to take away namechanges, srsly, who will suffer if you could change it once, O N C E.


Well some people have had a change of nickname that rendered their forum name unrecognizable, such as myself. No-one knew that MdeRooy had become DHR.Marcel and as such could not link my forum posts to in-game and vice versa.

I'm not saying that anyone should be able to change their name at any time, but like once per 6 months should be fine.

Yea.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: SugarD on May 30, 2013, 08:32:44 pm
Well I think it is complete bullshit to take away namechanges, srsly, who will suffer if you could change it once, O N C E.
Why would you ever need to change it once? If you have a legitimate issue that requires such, contact a forum Administrator. It is not hard.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: AK47 on May 30, 2013, 08:34:08 pm
Why would you ever need to change it once? If you have a legitimate issue that requires such, contact a forum Administrator. It is not hard.

And you don't think I tried?


And when you say "we don't use nicknames as roleplaynames" well, half server don't understand it.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: SugarD on May 30, 2013, 08:35:22 pm
And you don't think I tried?


And when you say "we don't use nicknames as roleplaynames" well, half server don't understand it.
1. If you didn't receive a reply, then it's possible that it was denied. Make sure you give a valid explanation and be patient.
2. That is not the fault of this community that some users don't understand our heritage.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: [WS]Jacob on May 30, 2013, 08:36:19 pm
I just wanted Jacob but that wasn't available for obvious reasons.

Argonath Administration has grown considerably and I am sure there would be time and space to accommodate some kind of a request feature for name changes, possibly?
That could work but limit it to
every 6 months.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: SugarD on May 30, 2013, 08:37:46 pm
I just wanted Jacob but that wasn't available for obvious reasons.
That could work but limit it to
There is no need to change it in the first place. We aren't going to add the ability just so people can become better at ban evading, hiding from punishments, and change their name every time they join a group.

If you have a valid reason to get it changed, just PM a forum Administrator. Seriously people, it's not difficult. If people didn't misuse the ability to begin with, it would not be restricted.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: [WS]Jacob on May 30, 2013, 08:42:32 pm
Seriously people, it's not difficult. If people didn't misuse the ability to begin with, it would not be restricted.
So as suggested a support ticket system where people can only request namechanges every certain number of months may work more effectively. This way the support team can review it and if it's not sensible then it will be denied and they'll have to wait another 6 months or so.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: SugarD on May 30, 2013, 08:43:49 pm
So as suggested a support ticket system where people can only request namechanges every certain number of months may work more effectively. This way the support team can review it and if it's not sensible then it will be denied and they'll have to wait another 6 months or so.
You would have a lot of people submitting false requests then. There is also nothing to limit them to 6 months, nor is there any way to track it. You're talking about creating a large system for something that would only have *maybe* 1-2 valid requests a year.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: [WS]Jacob on May 30, 2013, 08:46:21 pm
You would have a lot of people submitting false requests then. There is also nothing to limit them to 6 months, nor is there any way to track it. You're talking about creating a large system for something that would only have *maybe* 1-2 valid requests a year.
If there's no way to only allow users to submit requests every 6 months or so then it would be pointless and create more work for whoever deals with it. But if possible I think it should be considered.
Title: Re: Namechanges.
Post by: SugarD on May 30, 2013, 09:00:11 pm
If there's no way to only allow users to submit requests every 6 months or so then it would be pointless and create more work for whoever deals with it. But if possible I think it should be considered.
As it currently stands, there's no way to enforce such a thing.
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