Argonath Socialist Democrat Party [ASDP]

[Huntsman]

Argonath Socialist Democrat Party

The Argonath Socialist Democrat Party is a party that cherishes the ideas of socialism, however, it believes that socialism can only work alongside with democracy.
Unlike the Communist Party that USSR was based on, we relie on the ideas of the mensheviks (meaning less-viks), not of the bolshevikes (more-viks).

Our goals and vision:

*Proletariat - a democratically elected parliament of workers, which has the upper most hand in Argonath.
*Workers are the economic engine of Argonath RPG, we wish to give the workers more freedom!
*Your right to opinion and free word shall no longer be suppressed!
*We believe in social-capitalist ideas.
*Everyone is equal!
*The country has to have its own functional and active official military force!
*Radical actions towards street crime!
*Revival of the Bussiness Support Fund.
*Forceful employment. No-one shall be unemployed.
*More rights to firemen and paramedics!

Party members:

Party chairman:
Alfred_Monroe

Members:
-

Application to a party:

Code: [Select]

[b]Name and Lastname:[/b]
[b]Political views:[/b]
[b]Why do you want to join?:[/b]
[b]To what class do you belong to? [Worker and what employment you currently have):[/b]


[Kaley]

Good luck i guess. Reserved if needed.

[Def Perry]

'' Workers are the economic engine of Argonath RPG, we wish to give the workers more freedom! ''
''*Forceful employment. No-one shall be unemployed.''
 

[TiMoN]

'' Workers are the economic engine of Argonath RPG, we wish to give the workers more freedom! ''
''*Forceful employment. No-one shall be unemployed.''
 

That's not bullshit, it's politics.

[Pingster]

Politic to English translation of what Def Perry quoted:

Unless you're a worker, you will be arrested and forced into being a worker. As a worker, you will have more freedom than not a worker. Meaning, you won't get arrested for not being a worker.


Oh yeah, and while we're at it, we aim to destroy the economic model of RS5.


Yeah I have my reservations about this party.

[Huntsman]

Politic to English translation of what Def Perry quoted:

Unless you're a worker, you will be arrested and forced into being a worker. As a worker, you will have more freedom than not a worker. Meaning, you won't get arrested for not being a worker.


Oh yeah, and while we're at it, we aim to destroy the economic model of RS5.


Yeah I have my reservations about this party.

Await KGB agents at your doorstep....

For all seriousness though, you did not exactly understand what I meant. I meant that people who do not belong to any scripted job company, roleplay bussiness, would be forceful employed in a government one, in that way, we would try to reduce the crime, since obviously, people who do not have any legal income, are part of a criminal organisation.

[[WS]Jacob]

For all seriousness though, you did not exactly understand what I meant. I meant that people who do not belong to any scripted job company, roleplay bussiness, would be forceful employed in a government one

That's not democratic socialism, that's communism.

[Huntsman]

That's not democratic socialism, that's communism.

I am not relying on real life political views.

[Pingster]

Await KGB agents at your doorstep....

For all seriousness though, you did not exactly understand what I meant. I meant that people who do not belong to any scripted job company, roleplay bussiness, would be forceful employed in a government one, in that way, we would try to reduce the crime, since obviously, people who do not have any legal income, are part of a criminal organisation.

Political to English:

You're right!

In all seriousness though, how in the fuck's name can you say you're not relying on real life political views when you claim yourself, and I quote, "Unlike the Communist Party that USSR was based on, we relie on the ideas of the mensheviks (meaning less-viks), not of the bolshevikes (more-viks)."?

Sorry, but there's no way I, nor do I expect a lot others to, can support your party's political views on how to reduce crime. Nor would it be effective, as anyone could use a fake business to claim that they're employed.

All political backtalk aside, people play games to have fun, they play a roleplay game to have fun their way, and honestly? Forcing them to do something they do not want to do is not really fun.

[Huntsman]

Political to English:

You're right!

In all seriousness though, how in the f**k's name can you say you're not relying on real life political views when you claim yourself, and I quote, "Unlike the Communist Party that USSR was based on, we relie on the ideas of the mensheviks (meaning less-viks), not of the bolshevikes (more-viks)."?

Sorry, but there's no way I, nor do I expect a lot others to, can support your party's political views on how to reduce crime. Nor would it be effective, as anyone could use a fake business to claim that they're employed.

All political backtalk aside, people play games to have fun, they play a roleplay game to have fun their way, and honestly? Forcing them to do something they do not want to do is not really fun.

You're taking this way beyond it's supposed to be - roleplay.
Yes, my party is in no way associated with the real life political views. This is argonath - i can make the party operate just how I want it to and the fact that "IRL its that way" or "Itsn ot that way IRL" is not something that cant prevent me from doing it.

[Pingster]

Dude, your opening statement says you're relying on melshevik ideas, yet you're arguing that this is in no way related to real life political ideas? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?


Anyway, yes, you can operate it however you want, and right now I'm arguing your goals, which, as a true politician, you've completely failed to address.

[Huntsman]

Dude, your opening statement says you're relying on melshevik ideas, yet you're arguing that this is in no way related to real life political ideas? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?


Anyway, yes, you can operate it however you want, and right now I'm arguing your goals, which, as a true politician, you've completely failed to address.

It isn't me who has failed to address them, it's you who failed to understand them.

[Pingster]

Stop me when I'm wrong:

Your idea is to create an utopy where everyone is a hard working civilian, paid by mysterious funds, everyone being part of one organisation or another. If anyone is found not being employed, a mysterious government job will be issued to them, so they don't even think of doing crime for money. Should you happen to commit a crime, that just means you don't have any money and will be issued additional government jobs, just to keep your income going. But hey, that's good for you, because you will have more rights(??????)!


Seriously man, I can keep going, because all you've said is what's your vision, you've told us nothing of how you plan to achieve that, what the state is going to look like under your command and so on. As I can not argue about your ways of achieving these goals, I'm just going to make shit up as I see it, and assume it's correct, 'cause you've yet to prove me wrong on any single one of my points here.

[Nexus_Riggs]

The plans listed as your vision for the Government is quite simple and vague, you are not explaining specific rights that they should have and how your Government will structure that will ensure those rights. You also mentioned that you are willing to "reduce crime", well what type of legal norms would your Government set that will reduce the criminal activity in the State? You also mentioned you are "forcing employment" well, you are basically going against Argonath Vision.

[James_Webb]

Looks more like Marxism dawg.