Thunder and lightning

[Teddy]

Is the server up? Im unable to checks...

It has crashed, we are working on finding the cause and correcting it.

[Zaila]

RS5 server is back up.

[EliteTerm]

Topic name reminded me of this:




Guys, whether you like it or not.. we need to move on and adapt to the changes (SA:MP) and we must help ourselves and others by contributing instead of causing arguments & bickering, or we won't be able to progress.

Grow a pair and either contribute or stay by the sidelines and stop stepping on our toes.

[murdoxix]

I wont fall for your lies puppet, Los Zetas will control all weapons and drugs in RS5,
Z

First family to run over by FBI in RS5: Los Zetas.

Exactly most people don't use their real name.

I do

[Leon.]

Antonio, I totally understand your point of view - It sucks that you spent 5 years on creating a nice bed and now have to give up. Remember that everyone else is in the same picture here. The issues that you are facing we are all facing. But lets think about this for one second - If we do not move forward now - Argonath SAMP will not grow into a better one which it will be.

Yet again, DellStorm shows how one should conduct themselves properly when presented with a statement that they do not necessarily agree with, rather than just dismissing him as a moaner and believing that the label "moaner" automatically nullifies any points or views of theirs.

Also, lol @ the "ur not """"""forced""""""" to play,,,,,,,, dun like it,,, den leave argonath" 'logic' going on here... you're telling me they're just going to leave a community they formed strong friendships and spent some of their most troubled years in? Pff.

[Pingster]

you're telling me they're just going to leave a community they formed strong friendships and spent some of their most troubled years in?

If they can't get over the change from RS4.1 to RS5 and value their assets more than the friendship, sure. In that case, you should be more than happy to be rid of these people, as they clearly need to re-evaluate what's important.

However, if they can realise that Argonath is more than scripts and numbers and players are more than just tools to make more money, then well done, Argonath will be better with them. No one wants to make people leave, it's always their choice, it just comes down to their priorities.

[Antonio.]

6/10

[Jaka_Lah]

6/10

bribed.

[Pagon]

I feel that the backlash that RS5 has caused goes a little like this;

Player A doesn't like some new features in RS5
Player A complains about it in the forums
Admin B tries to explain how the new feature is better than the old one
Player A still wants to use the RS4 version
Admin B tells that if you don't like it, leave

I think the problem here is that player A isn't given any other options other than "deal with it", and that's why he/she is upset. But when you really think about it the developement team can't do anything about that.

Also when the developement team has to keep every single little detail about RS5 as a secret, that really doesn't help the acceptance of RS5.

[Jaka_Lah]

Wrong topic for this theme.

This is a topic posted in News and Announcments in the Argonath RPG comunity forum meaning that it's about all of the servers, besides that he has the right to ask anything he wants to in a PUBLIC discussion, as Sauron stated not so long ago "once a topic is made everyone and anyone is allowed to express his own opinion, in a respectfull and non provoking manner" and besides the point, why are you trying to argue with him, don't like him; ignore him.

[SugarD]

It seems many of you have forgotten some important information. Let me just link you to it:

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=86639.0
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=83057.0
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=38482.0
http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?title=Argonath_Rules

[Gandalf]

As we are bringing back things lets give full information on hwy we made the decisions we did.
Tuesday morning we made a rather shocking discovery. Due to a misunderstanding the data center had closed out the Argonath game server. In the communication that followed it was found an even worse thing, The data had already been formatted.
This was especially bad because the backup we usually have in multiple place had been temporarily concentrated on exactly that server.
As a result 4 months of data had been wiped out, for all servers and including some of my programming work.

With this loss, we have put it to the leaders of each server how to proceed. For most servers, the data will be reconstructed as good as possible. But for SA:MP we found that it posed many problems.
Not only would it disadvantage a lot of people if 4 months of data were removed, it also brings the issue that players might not be interested to rebuild just to lose it again when RS5 is near. There for it was decided to speed up the RS5 arrival and fix bugs while we are running.

Rather than looking at it negative, we have to learn and move forward.
First thing learned is never to have one place for recent backups. Second  understand that mistakes of others can be more costly as your own.

One more positive: we got a better deal out of it that makes up in the long run.

[supermotard420]

Put IV server back up gandalf my bro

[Pagon]

As we are bringing back things lets give full information on hwy we made the decisions we did.
Tuesday morning we made a rather shocking discovery. Due to a misunderstanding the data center had closed out the Argonath game server. In the communication that followed it was found an even worse thing, The data had already been formatted.
This was especially bad because the backup we usually have in multiple place had been temporarily concentrated on exactly that server.
As a result 4 months of data had been wiped out, for all servers and including some of my programming work.

With this loss, we have put it to the leaders of each server how to proceed. For most servers, the data will be reconstructed as good as possible. But for SA:MP we found that it posed many problems.
Not only would it disadvantage a lot of people if 4 months of data were removed, it also brings the issue that players might not be interested to rebuild just to lose it again when RS5 is near. There for it was decided to speed up the RS5 arrival and fix bugs while we are running.

Rather than looking at it negative, we have to learn and move forward.
First thing learned is never to have one place for recent backups. Second  understand that mistakes of others can be more costly as your own.

One more positive: we got a better deal out of it that makes up in the long run.

Wow, that is horrible. Does that mean that everything that happened in RS4 in the past 4 months has been wiped? Damn, thats a shitty ass occurance.

[Stivi]

Put IV server back up gandalf my bro

Read below:

As a result 4 months of data had been wiped out, for all servers and including some of my programming work.

With this loss, we have put it to the leaders of each server how to proceed. For most servers, the data will be reconstructed as good as possible.