Advertising other servers on RS5

[FlameMan]

@Zaila
So pming some friends on FACEBOOK about a server that is almost RS4, (WHICH DO NOT EVEN EXIST ANYMORE) but that's not immportant,
Is not allowed to do in my f**king personal life, in my f**king facebook profile, WHO THE f**k ARE YOU TO CONTROL MY FACEBOOK ACCOUNT?
EXPLAIN IT TO ME PLEASE CAUSE ITS f**kING FUNNY

Caps lock off and control your temper, or you will be punished for breaking forum rules as well.
Your personal life is your personal life. If you started saying over your private facebook proflie that you would bomb the Houses of Parliament, and then the police came over arresting you, would you go with the same excuse? Facebook profile is not personal if you post something publically. Facebook is one of the mass-media types. You didn't ask your 2-3 friends to simply join another server. If you did, you wouldn't have any problems.

In your case there are two basic problems which would make you banned separately:
1) You contacted total strangers (i.e.: people who you know from Argonath and never even spoke to them -> like me), so you made it a public ad, not private invitation.
2) You used Argonath as a comparison, saying the server is similar to RS4. Therefore, you used Argonath's fame and respect to gain your own members. It does not matter that Rs4 doesn't exist anymore. The fact that matters is that you used us to be more respected and to get more members.

Don't act as if you didn't understand it. You knew perfectly well what you were doing.
Actually, your unban request was a joke as well. Saying you didn't know what you had done... and before posting unban request that's what you wrote on your Argo-wannabe-server:
[21:23:00] <Bruce_McCollin> Going on argonath probably to get banned

[Jaka_Lah]

Even if Facebook msging IPs seems creepy it isn't against the rules, the fact that Flameman is a part of the SAMP leadership doesn't matter, he MSGed random people on his facebook that he knows play SAMP and told them about a server, now you tell me that is wrong? you don't own Facebook, he might be creepy.. but advertising there isn't bad, if I make Argonath videos on youtube and play argonath and make a video telling everyone to go and play some other RP server.. you can't ban me for that as it's on my youtube, Facebook is no different, what he did was tell people about something interesting that might interest them on facebook. He tried to sell them a product that was in their interests, which is the definition of advertisement, but.. something this major should be brought up to Gandalf.. but than again it's just my opinion and I'm just a wall of text not a cop.

[Teddy]

{rant}

Since you want someone to speak to; may I ask the following:

Why do you care?

Your running off to make some alternative of RS4 and pretty much hate everything about RS5; so the main question is why should you even care? Why stick around? Why care about being banned? What is your objective with selecting to stay?

Consider this; if you were the major community and Gandalf was the one splitting off, would you want him silently stealing people away from your community in which hes met there? I want to know your honest answer.

This isn't a democracy. Nobody has a right to be here; its a privilege in which those selected to manage the community and servers can revoke that privilege.

[TheLegitHabibi]

Even if Facebook msging IPs seems creepy it isn't against the rules, the fact that Flameman is a part of the SAMP leadership doesn't matter, he MSGed random people on his facebook that he knows play SAMP and told them about a server, now you tell me that is wrong? you don't own Facebook, he might be creepy.. but advertising there isn't bad, if I make Argonath videos on youtube and play argonath and make a video telling everyone to go and play some other RP server.. you can't ban me for that as it's on my youtube, Facebook is no different, what he did was tell people about something interesting that might interest them on facebook. He tried to sell them a product that was in their interests, which is the definition of advertisement, but.. something this major should be brought up to Gandalf.. but than again it's just my opinion and I'm just a wall of text not a cop.

Exactly man. Exactly.

[Bruce.]

Caps lock off and control your temper, or you will be punished for breaking forum rules as well.
Your personal life is your personal life. If you started saying over your private facebook proflie that you would bomb the Houses of Parliament, and then the police came over arresting you, would you go with the same excuse? Facebook profile is not personal if you post something publically. Facebook is one of the mass-media types. You didn't ask your 2-3 friends to simply join another server. If you did, you wouldn't have any problems.

In your case there are two basic problems which would make you banned separately:
1) You contacted total strangers (i.e.: people who you know from Argonath and never even spoke to them -> like me), so you made it a public ad, not private invitation.
2) You used Argonath as a comparison, saying the server is similar to RS4. Therefore, you used Argonath's fame and respect to gain your own members. It does not matter that Rs4 doesn't exist anymore. The fact that matters is that you used us to be more respected and to get more members.

Don't act as if you didn't understand it. You knew perfectly well what you were doing.
Actually, your unban request was a joke as well. Saying you didn't know what you had done... and before posting unban request that's what you wrote on your Argo-wannabe-server:

Since when Argonath Vision disallow me to send personal message on facebook about a server that i found?

[21:23:00] <Bruce_McCollin> Going on argonath probably to get banned

First of all you need to be banned for Ignoring Administration.This is the reason:

They have already been ordered to not join that server by me over 30 minutes ago.

[Zaila]

Since when Argonath Vision disallow me to send personal message on facebook about a server that i found?

First of all you need to be banned for Ignoring Administration.This is the reason:

Since when is a community so desperate that they need to pay real life money to get people to advertise them?

[Bruce.]

Since when is a community so desperate that they need to pay real life money to get people to advertise them?

What money hahahahahahahahaha....I don't need money to advertise something, i just need a video editor and a youtube account I didn't got money

[Zaila]

What money hahahahahahahahaha....I don't need money to advertise something, i just need a video editor and a youtube account I didn't got money

Yet you tried to advertise to over 100 people after an announcement that they would pay $15 to whoever recruited the most.

[Pingster]

If you care more about other communities than Argonath, don't mind if the administration team helps you dedicate more time to those by lowering the time you spend here, specially if your care for other communities involve diminishing Argonath by taking away our players, regardless of the means. Stopping your access to the rest of the player base once you start recruiting seems like a logical thing to do. Surprised you've still got forum account.

[Bruce.]

Yet you tried to advertise to over 100 people after an announcement that they would pay $15 to whoever recruited the most.

Oh wait we have a snitch over here, thats just an event so what? what about ARGONATH COMMUNITY that takes 400$ from people to put their server back? what you have to say about that?

[Jaka_Lah]

Yet you tried to advertise to over 100 people after an announcement that they would pay $15 to whoever recruited the most.

That's smart marketing, they weren't forced to advertise on argonath, they could advertise on Battlefield if they wanted to.. never thought of alex as a mastermind but this is interesting, let me get my popcorn.

[Mario_Alfonso]

Yet you tried to advertise to over 100 people after an announcement that they would pay $15 to whoever recruited the most.

If you wish to go into detail, and I'll state none of us have, instead of twisting words.

The event was a $15 left over from a host discount the server got and was an event on creating a TRAILER, For the server, as-well as refferals from the trailer, eg: Whoever got the most joining from their Youtube video.

The server is new, Argonath is not, Stop bullshitting on it just because you're afraid of it.

Back onto the subject, 10-20 Argonath members who aren't even within my seperate community (That I Will NOT advertise) have posted on how your methods are unkind and "Pathetic" as they said.

Yes, they are all wrong, obviously.

[Bruce.]

If you care more about other communities than Argonath, don't mind if the administration team helps you dedicate more time to those by lowering the time you spend here, specially if your care for other communities involve diminishing Argonath by taking away our players, regardless of the means. Stopping your access to the rest of the player base once you start recruiting seems like a logical thing to do. Surprised you've still got forum account.

Mr. I WANT TO BE A ADMIN, stay out of this please

[Stivi]

Nothing matters... #FreeEthan

[Zaila]

Oh wait we have a snitch over here, thats just an event so what? what about ARGONATH COMMUNITY that takes 400$ from people to put their server back? what you have to say about that?

Not a snitch, it's a topic in the public forum they got.

Why Gandalf said that he would put up RS4 if someone donated $400 had a very obvious reason. If you can't see it, i wont bother explaining it to you.

Yes, they are all wrong, obviously.

You can't be right or wrong about that, it's all about opinions.