Lets get real.

[Hyuga.]

Don't compare me to someone who had 100k, cotage and blista compact in RS4 and who didn't get highly affected by the restart.

I know exactly what you had. There are players who used to have much more than you and are still playing. They aren't even whining, unlike some of the other examples we have.

I'm asking for the cash i earned in past 3 years, for the cash i spent hardwork and shit ton of time, that's not a free cash.

There's no way you will get your money back if you're too lazy to work for it.

RS5 without many players and money is not functional.

The ammount of different RPs they can do is limited by the cash

RP is not limited by cash in Argonath. Perhaps you're mixing servers already?

people want to have visual objects and stuff.

Of course they do. Plenty of people already have those 'visual objects'.

We all know that script will work in the future, but untill we reach 'that' future, people will already be gone.

We're gaining new players daily, the activity only goes up. What we lost, we will regain.

Once you understand that everything if flipping around money (almost whole script) and that without money there's no fun, come back to me.

Are you sure you're talking about Argonath?

[Jaka_Lah]

Let me rephrase it then for you: The ammount of different RPs and fun you can have are limited by money, which will make you bored after 3rd time of doing same RP in a row.

Fair enough, I don't understand your frusturation as I'm easily entertained, I literally laughed for three minutes when Leon was AFK on a tree and I was going

* Jaka_Lah pokes the monkey

.. and I laughed for like.. a while.. I don't need much to entertain myself, but doing the same RP three times in a row? As far as I recall the sad excuse for a mafia you're leading has been doing the same bank robbery, kidnapping, robbing, dm ... all the time, seems like you didn't get bored from it, and if you hate things that happen three times in a row; how come you constantly went to a gun shop , got guns and killed people, and died and did it again, I went weeks playing 5 hours a day just driving around in a white car doing absolutely fucking nothing and was just entertained by the chat.. I mean from a observers stand point your argument makes sense, but the amount of time I have seen you in a roleplay scenario disproves your point. You go call me Honigsenf and I'll ask him if he is tired of RPing a hotdog seller for the past 'three' years. RP is not limited by money, it's limited by your imagination, neither is fun limited, it's all how you want to react to things. You lost your money? Time to start a new RP characters that roleplays a hobo, Great new roleplay ideas YAY

[JDC]

Everyone was affected, in fact every admin I approached to help sponsor a certain event could not because like me, they had very little money left. But while you complain about losing money, others are working to gain it and regain / surpass their former wealth.

You are free to complain all you like, but do not complain if your complaining ends up with you being left in the dust while everyone else basks in the wealth they earned while you were too busy complaining about what you lost on forums.

[Huntsman]

I am okay with RS5, atleast with most aspects of it, however, there are few features that players simply don't agree with and want to be changed, however, either you, or developers, keep rejecting any change that players want.

Oh, and I still think Argonath would be better off focusing on MTA:SA instead of SA:MP :|

[Pingster]

I am okay with RS5, atleast with most aspects of it, however, there are few features that players simply don't agree with and want to be changed, however, either you, or developers, keep rejecting any change that players want.

Oh, and I still think Argonath would be better off focusing on MTA:SA instead of SA:MP :|

Link where anything is rejected, 'cause they already said that in 6 months time they will look through ARUN boards for suitable ideas.

[Kessu]

Link where anything is rejected, 'cause they already said that in 6 months time they will look through ARUN boards for suitable ideas.

Players mentality: What isn't accepted immediatly is rejected automatically.

Because logic win

[Acika]

I know exactly what you had. There are players who used to have much more than you and are still playing. They aren't even whining, unlike some of the other examples we have.
There's no way you will get your money back if you're too lazy to work for it.

RP is not limited by cash in Argonath. Perhaps you're mixing servers already?
Of course they do. Plenty of people already have those 'visual objects'.
We're gaining new players daily, the activity only goes up. What we lost, we will regain.
Are you sure you're talking about Argonath?

Just no

Fair enough, I don't understand your frusturation as I'm easily entertained, I literally laughed for three minutes when Leon was AFK on a tree and I was going

* Jaka_Lah pokes the monkey

.. and I laughed for like.. a while.. I don't need much to entertain myself, but doing the same RP three times in a row? As far as I recall the sad excuse for a mafia you're leading has been doing the same bank robbery, kidnapping, robbing, dm ... all the time, seems like you didn't get bored from it, and if you hate things that happen three times in a row; how come you constantly went to a gun shop , got guns and killed people, and died and did it again, I went weeks playing 5 hours a day just driving around in a white car doing absolutely f**king nothing and was just entertained by the chat.. I mean from a observers stand point your argument makes sense, but the amount of time I have seen you in a roleplay scenario disproves your point. You go call me Honigsenf and I'll ask him if he is tired of RPing a hotdog seller for the past 'three' years. RP is not limited by money, it's limited by your imagination, neither is fun limited, it's all how you want to react to things. You lost your money? Time to start a new RP characters that roleplays a hobo, Great new roleplay ideas YAY

Dude, you have some serious problems.

If you want to be a hobo, then be a hobo, go run around in a troll skin. I even dont use that skin on a Paruni as it is just embarassing for a mafia leader.

I am okay with RS5, atleast with most aspects of it, however, there are few features that players simply don't agree with and want to be changed, however, either you, or developers, keep rejecting any change that players want.

Oh, and I still think Argonath would be better off focusing on MTA:SA instead of SA:MP :|

You're totally right.


Since i have spoke to few mafia leaders and since the mafia life is dead, it's just disappointing that mafia people are fighting over firetruck and that they cannot earn any cash illegaly (drugs).
Mafia life is deeply broken and i dont want it to go deeper, i suggest devs, scripters, that for the start they as soon as possible set mafia headquarters and to set at least 10 cars in mafia color around HQ which will be only accessible by "_<mafia name>". This is a suggestion because we can't even act as mafia, same as we cant earn cash as a mafia.


PS: Mr.Wannabie admin and similar are pleased not to answer because there's no need to hear opinions from people who write and then think about the things they wrote.

[Teddy]

Oh, and I still think Argonath would be better off focusing on MTA:SA instead of SA:MP :|

Mario, JayL, Patton and the rest of the MTA:SA team dedicate a great deal of time and effort into MTA:SA. I think you under estimate their efforts and accomplishments.

[Petarda]

why would you even point out that you belong to some mafia lol

[Pingster]

Since i have spoke to few mafia leaders and since the mafia life is dead, it's just disappointing that mafia people are fighting over firetruck and that they cannot earn any cash illegaly (drugs).
Mafia life is deeply broken and i dont want it to go deeper, i suggest devs, scripters, that for the start they as soon as possible set mafia headquarters and to set at least 10 cars in mafia color around HQ which will be only accessible by "_<mafia name>". This is a suggestion because we can't even act as mafia, same as we cant earn cash as a mafia.

Because having an HQ and 10 cars is going to allow you to make money and have so much mafia roleplay. Makes sense.

However, I don't see how you don't have any way to earn cash illegally. Hold up and pickpocket firemen if you want. But you don't, what you do want is a way where an army of semi-afk players sit at drug spots, then bring you the drugs, which you will sell for profit (or won't, 'cause you can't earn profit..).

Maybe wait for the rest of the scripted features to be released before moaning there's nothing to do, it's been promised that features will come together to create a better experience, so yeah. And if not, that's when the suggestions will start to get scripted, so you have the opportunity to present viable options for money making, instead of just being a Negative Nancy.

[Acika]

Because having an HQ and 10 cars is going to allow you to make money and have so much mafia roleplay. Makes sense.

However, I don't see how you don't have any way to earn cash illegally. Hold up and pickpocket firemen if you want. But you don't, what you do want is a way where an army of semi-afk players sit at drug spots, then bring you the drugs, which you will sell for profit (or won't, 'cause you can't earn profit..).

Maybe wait for the rest of the scripted features to be released before moaning there's nothing to do, it's been promised that features will come together to create a better experience, so yeah. And if not, that's when the suggestions will start to get scripted, so you have the opportunity to present viable options for money making, instead of just being a Negative Nancy.

PS: Mr.Wannabie admin and similar are pleased not to answer because there's no need to hear opinions from people who write and then think about the things they wrote.

[Teddy]

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Well I can tell you he is right and I'm no wanna be. What's in RS5 largely supports growth and more forms of capital gain for mafias. If your to blind to see those supports than that is the failure of your own imagination, not anyone else. I know specifically I developed multiple features which had this in mind and Gandalf had mentioned specifically when I asked him "why this"; he explained simply as "to give mafias a chance".

[Pingster]

Hiding behind your feelings for others won't get rid of the fact that your arguments are dumb.

[Acika]

Well I can tell you he is right and I'm no wanna be. What's in RS5 largely supports growth and more forms of capital gain for mafias. If your to blind to see those supports than that is the failure of your own imagination, not anyone else. I know specifically I developed multiple features which had this in mind and Gandalf had mentioned specifically when I asked him "why this"; he explained simply as "to give mafias a chance".

U cant pickpocket, everyone stores money in wallet.
U cant hijack a truck, noone is trucker.
U cant do drugs to earn cash, u can do drugs to heal or die.
Also none of the above is mafia business, mafia has no chance, mafia is gone, mafia life is dead.

So disappointing:
What does the mafia man say ? Gimmi that damn firetruck or i'll kill you.

[Teddy]

U cant pickpocket, everyone stores money in wallet.
U cant hijack a truck, noone is trucker.
U cant do drugs to earn cash, u can do drugs to heal or die.
Also none of the above is mafia business, mafia has no chance, mafia is gone, mafia life is dead.

You shouldn't be running a mafia if those are the only things you can think of. Like I said, your own lack of imagination is at fault. You also failed to read some of the things both Gandalf and I wrote.