Primary & Secondary Forum Ranks

[Devin]

If that's the case - http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=101772.0
I fail to see anything amateur about the rank, and it was not created for a "single" person.

[SugarD]

If that's the case - http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=101772.0
I fail to see anything amateur about the rank, and it was not created for a "single" person.

I think he misunderstood it, as many others missed the other part of that post signifying that specific rank. The person he saw with the rank is also the only one who has it set to primary, so as a regular forum user, it was the only person he could see equipped with it.

[Radagast]

If one person holds the rank, one person will receive the rank. That's how it works, young man.

[SugarD]

If one person holds the rank, one person will receive the rank. That's how it works, young man.

Well as far as I know, the one person holding it that has it as primary isn't retired...so I'm a little confused as to why he has it to begin with.

Either way, though, the rank isn't an issue. It was made for the reasons Gandalf mentioned in that other topic.

[Kessu]

One problem with the permissions is that I can sticky & unsticky LU board topics without actually being a part of it's board moderation/administrator team, but I can't do shiet in VC:MP side.

According to Gandalf all admins should be able to trash topics from the boards they administrate but no can do, only sticky & unsticky LU topics

[SugarD]

One problem with the permissions is that I can sticky & unsticky LU board topics without actually being a part of it's board moderation/administrator team, but I can't do shiet in VC:MP side.

According to Gandalf all admins should be able to trash topics from the boards they administrate but no can do, only sticky & unsticky LU topics

Much of that is because of some unusual permissions designs being used. Originally things were built to be cascading for certain ranks, (not Board Moderators), so that everyone stayed equal, since there was an issue with that in the past that arose on ARPD Forums. It was a great system until we realized that SMF doesn't allow you to use Board Permissions when inheriting General Permissions from another membergroup.

The problem is that fixing this requires redesigning all of the permissions for each membergroup, one at a time. (There are copy functions associated with this that can be used on similar membergroups, but it still an extremely-lengthy process to set up). The system is also very complicated to understand until you realize how it works. Once set up, it is fairly simple to maintain...but it is getting there which is the challenge. It also cannot guarantee that someone won't screw with the permissions for one membergroup over another...(although Administrator Logs in SMF tend to show that anyway, regardless of which system we have in place).

I have spoken with Gandalf on a few occasions about switching the system over, even offering to do the [very boring and detailed] work for him, however he's not sure if this is something he wants to use right now. In the mean time, we basically have to trust our members with the access that they have. (Although they shouldn't have the access to begin with if we don't trust them, I personally just worry about those who may go rogue or get hacked).

As for the LU boards themselves, something funky is going on there which I can't seem to figure out due to a lack of access. Similar issues exist for other servers' ranks in other boards too. The Helpdesk permissions also need a bit of tweaking, as some of us can currently move any topic from any board into the Helpdesk, so long as we have reply permissions for it.

[~Legend~]

I think the idea is aiming more for universalizing the system so it is consistent everywhere, and getting those RP ranks made as secondary only, since they aren't really related to the rest of the forum itself, and are just there simply for access.

Speaking on forum ranks, I find it unfair to create certain ranks just for specific people. Recently I've seen a forum position that has never existed before and was created only with the purpose of giving it to that single person -,-

It also makes us look really amateur..

Absolutely, and well said both of you.

It's completely improper if certain people have extra recognition for doing exactly the same (or even less) than other individuals who uphold Argonath through its multiple sub-communities and projects.
It is only problem-free and smiles all round if your server/project is well recognised - that's easy for you to say.

Ill representation has been a crippling problem in Argonath for a long, long time.
Gestures such as what this idea proposes will chip a little of that feeling away.

Beyond this, a major problem of having any visible/primary RP ranks is that this then opens the field to so many others that could and should then be recognised here by default of the existing ones.

[~Legend~]

It's great to see that for a number of users this has now come into affect.
But fail to see what it has only happened to some and not others. We can't keep on being so unfair, haha... let's get back some professionalism.

[~Legend~]

Bump : )