Let's get real - part 2 - RS5 or RS4?

[Pingster]

RS4.1 is actually what you were playing before; RS4.1 came out a bit after RS4 and added support like fire missions.

I think what he meant is to re-create RS4.1 (with the new engine) and build upon it, instead of completely new gamemode.

[SugarD]

Should have just created RS4.1 =\

They did...several years ago.

[EminemRulez]

I know I'm no longer a player here since a while now and the only problem I see here with accounts resets here is that some families / groups had built empires, literally.
I think their HQ should be kept (tho at 0$ value, so they can't sell it), that would, at least, give those people some motivation to keep playing.
It's hard to grow up a functional groupd nowadays an its even harder to make people be interested in keeping up with it, IC or OOC (oh I used the IC / OOC terms, f**k me right?).
That's one example of a possible measure.
The big deal here, for what I can see, is that some people just "quit" - there's nothing bringing them into the game, as soon as you get people wanting to play, like they used to, the server will be full regardless of any resets.
Excuse me for my bad grammar, I haven't been using my english effectively in quite a while now :p

Peace and I hope y'all can find a solution, don't let Argonath die!

Salut,
Kevin

[Dennis.]

RS4 was awesome! Everyone was having fun, peoples allways RP and were happy. Now when RS5 relased, Argonath is not a RPG anymore Its Argonath FD!anlot of members quit. server today was being played by onle 2 -3mebers.
RS5 is not helping community.

[Teddy]

I think what he meant is to re-create RS4.1 (with the new engine) and build upon it, instead of completely new gamemode.

Did you not read a single word I said?

[murdoxix]

Want RS4.1 back?

To all those who want RS4 back, here is your challenge.
If you REALLY want to bring it back, I will make a deal.

Make donations stating 'I want RS4' and as soon as this reaches Eur 400, I will open a RS4 server, however there will be NO ASSETS and NO ACCOU?NTS. Fro mthe current admin team there will be a RS4 team formed, and while the player count stays above 200 per day (that means in 24 hours, not needing to have 200 players online at the same time) it will remain up.

Now either put up or shut up.

[Manoni]

Want RS4.1 back?

To all those who want RS4 back, here is your challenge.
If you REALLY want to bring it back, I will make a deal.

Make donations stating 'I want RS4' and as soon as this reaches Eur 400, I will open a RS4 server, however there will be NO ASSETS and NO ACCOU?NTS. Fro mthe current admin team there will be a RS4 team formed, and while the player count stays above 200 per day (that means in 24 hours, not needing to have 200 players online at the same time) it will remain up.

Now either put up or shut up.

I don't really think that this is going to be considered anymore.

RS4 was awesome! Everyone was having fun, peoples allways RP and were happy. Now when RS5 relased, Argonath is not a RPG anymore Its Argonath FD!anlot of members quit. server today was being played by only 2 -3members.

People can still be having fun and do RP in RS5 if they just don't want then no much can be done; About the "FD" this is true the server is full of firefighters but only because people is still interested in money so point proven, anyway i don't find it bad at least they are giving a chance to the new system but without the economy system being active i find it useless.

RS5 is not helping community.

The people* is not helping the community.

It seems I was misunderstood. What I meant to say is that it could be beneficial to convert RS4 accounts and their stats into a format suitable for RS5, allowing to keep both RS5 scripts and players' assets. This could take a lot of effort, but it could also save the time required to build an economy from scratch.

This sounds like a good idea and it can benefit both parties, but then where the RS5 idea of "a fresh new start" goes? yet seeing that this idea has been forgotten due to the big complains, it'll not be bad if this gets in consideration.

[murdoxix]

I don't really think that this is going to be considered anymore.

Why not? Please explain and, if possible, give a (credible) source.

[Manoni]

Why not? Please explain and, if possible, give a (credible) source.

I said i think, like in my own opinion, not saying that it has been stated before. For starters i think that the idea goes against the Argonath vision. Second, the staff has been focused on more important things so i doubt that another team will be lead to an RS4 server and Third, i don't really see the people paying to get RS4 back.

[murdoxix]

For starters i think that the idea goes against the Argonath vision.

Why?

Second, the staff has been focused on more important things so i doubt that another team will be lead to an RS4 server

Gandalf will manage that.

Third, i don't really see the people paying to get RS4 back.

Well, that doesn't mean that the offer isn't 'considered' anymore.

[JDC]

Third, i don't really see the people paying to get RS4 back.

As people are willing to complain and complain, but suddenly back off when they are faced with a challenge.

It is actually very well within Gandalf's capabilities to put up that RS4 server, all that is needed is a heavy enough reason, which he outlined in his challenge.

[Cofiliano]

People complain, you tell them to provide a solution.
People provide reasonable solutions, nothing changes.
Nothing changes, people still complain.
People still complain, you tell them to leave.

And so they did.
This is how we ended up here, and why there's 2 players online at the moment. Not RS5 itself yet the whole system.

All this replies and debates  throughout the forums, looks like a funeral where people talk about the deadguy in a positive way(Oh he was so great, really good person), then a bit guilty way( If only we could have done something), but just like in this example, there's no going back, some of you are trying to initiative some talks with opening this kind of topics, yet you fail to realize that you're still in the 'guilty phase', you still dont wanna face the reality, that we are all actually writing our last farewells  to the SA:MP Argo and its glory, unfortunately.

Face it, it was a good run, but we reached the finish line.

And if you have a problem with accepting that, here's something to help you face that fact:

To all those who want RS4 back, here is your challenge.
If you REALLY want to bring it back, I will make a deal.

Make donations stating 'I want RS4' and as soon as this reaches Eur 400, I will open a RS4 server, however there will be NO ASSETS and NO ACCOU?NTS. Fro mthe current admin team there will be a RS4 team formed, and while the player count stays above 200 per day (that means in 24 hours, not needing to have 200 players online at the same time) it will remain up.

Now either put up or shut up.

[Stivi]

Face it, it was a good run, but we reached the finish line.

Then we need to get the trophy, or we gave up and let others win ?

[Manoni]

Then we need to get the trophy, or we gave up and let others win ?

Did you won?

As people are willing to complain and complain, but suddenly back off when they are faced with a challenge.

Description of the human kind.

Gandalf will manage that.

He definitely can do it, but as i said before, there are more important things to be taken care right now.

Well, that doesn't mean that the offer isn't "considered" anymore.

It might be considered by him, but only if we agree with the statements above of which i think that people are not willing to do it.

[Nexus_Riggs]

There just few things that isn't added to RS5, which is causing many groups and our loyal players to stay away. So until developers implement those critical features into the server, it is the best idea to be patient and think of good ideas to make the server better. This is not a "depression" it is just a time for change and transformation to strengthen the server for better role play.