Let's get real - part 2 - RS5 or RS4?

[Jaka_Lah]

Like my vote is Ernst but look at ze name <----

Exactly.

[Devin]

They are their old names, most of them had the forum names changed, thus the names in the poll are different.. they weren't cheating, it's a flaw in the script showing the names that were first registered instead of changed ones..
Perfect examples;
Tedd:Jones - Teddy
rusty - RustyCalvesomething
JDCdesigns - JDC

Precisely, the names displayed at the poll is simply the Username which the account was registered with, the name displayed is the "Username" whilst the name displayed when you view the account is simply the account "Name" within SMF.

[Alfreddo.]

How do you know they are? And what dumbass wastes time doing that in a non-official vote..

You can see thier names.

[Acika]

SAPD was briefed about RS5?  Nope.
Sure we had admins inside SAPD who got to test RS5 before the public did, fact is we never got consulted about the police side of things.  It was only until Zaila posted a topic in the ARPD Forums at the start of January because of the barely there communication we were able to put forward ideas and what not. 

SAPD didnt need a briefing because almost every single admin is a cop and admins had access to the beta test server and Teddy, CBFasi are scripters themselves.

CBFasi made the script as he/cops likes, what if you give a criminal leader to make a script as he likes ? Or at least you could ask them for an opinion

How do you know they are? And what dumbass wastes time doing that in a non-official vote..

I have my men who are giving me information i want, did you really think i checked ?

[Mikal]

my men

Someone just came out of the closet.

[Devin]

SAPD didnt need a briefing because almost every single admin is a cop and admins had access to the beta test server and Teddy, CBFasi are scripters themselves.

CBFasi made the script as he/cops likes, what if you give a criminal leader to make a script as he likes ? Or at least you could ask them for an opinion

As far as I know CBFasi did not create the police scripts within RS5, Conroy created the scripts.

[Teddy]

Like Cofi, I agree that there is no finger pointing at the developers - they have done a great job.

RS5 is in the current predicament because of failure to adhere to general project management principles. The fundamental rule of project management is to ensure you understand and translate the requirements of the users into functional solutions. For example, if a client asked for a Ferrari and was delivered a FIAT, he would surely not be impressed. The same applies to RS5 where the community was not even given reasonable insight into RS5 through the development phase resulting in the commotion we see today.

The RS5 requirement elicitation was poor and managed by the owner who has questionably been out of touch with the community. Some have been petitioning since early 2009 for a general counsel AKA ARUN to have vetoing ability over changes in this community and the project stalled several times only to be reinstated again recently, perhaps one might argue too late.

This said, what is more important is that we concentrate on remediating the issues at hand and providing real feasible solutions. Again, the management and owner are not providing insight into how this area of concern is planned to be resolved except for ARUN. There needs to be greater transparency if you wish for players to stay.

While the idea of players making the direct choices is something I agree with; I wouldn't say the lack of such is the key "issue" of RS5. Also you do know only like a little over half the people here will actually understand your post without having to Google a lot of words aye? :P

[Stivi]

And those are power hungry idiots.

Because they want to feel more powerful than everyone else.

Agreed. But that's how basically everyone is on rs5.

Why should they? They bailed when RS5 came because they lost their assets, they don't deserve shit.

When the assets were there, they used to RP. Think about it. They lost the spirit when rs5 came.

Going in game and RPing is what you're expected to do though.

Yes, couldn't agree more, however there's no one to RP with. Everyone's a fireman/cop.

[Teddy]

SAPD didnt need a briefing because almost every single admin is a cop and admins had access to the beta test server and Teddy, CBFasi are scripters themselves.

CBFasi made the script as he/cops likes, what if you give a criminal leader to make a script as he likes ? Or at least you could ask them for an opinion

Teddy is FBI; FBI had no changes in script. CBF worked with objects and only returned to the development team when most of the updates had already been done. CBF had nothing to do with police scripts, the planning of, or anything. If you wanna get factual instead of talking out your ass like you know everything when you don't; CBFasi actually himself was against some of the changes once he found out.

[Stivi]

SAPD was briefed about RS5?  Nope.
Sure we had admins inside SAPD who got to test RS5 before the public did, fact is we never got consulted about the police side of things.  It was only until Zaila posted a topic in the ARPD Forums at the start of January because of the barely there communication we were able to put forward ideas and what not. 

They were.

[Teddy]

They were.

Only high ranked people knew in advance; the general population of SAPD had no idea until just before beta.

[KhornateMonkey]

CBFasi made the script as he/cops likes, what if you give a criminal leader to make a script as he likes ? Or at least you could ask them for an opinion

I worked with CBF in mapping on RS5 and I can tell you that he had no influence on the police scripts.

[Rusty]

SAPD didnt need a briefing because almost every single admin is a cop and admins had access to the beta test server and Teddy, CBFasi are scripters themselves.

CBFasi made the script as he/cops likes, what if you give a criminal leader to make a script as he likes ? Or at least you could ask them for an opinion

Conroy was the one developing the police side of things, CBF never participated in RS5 scripting from what I believe.
SAPD didn't need briefed because some admins are cops?  That's a joke in it's own right.
I could say the same for the admins who dote about as criminals from time to time, maybe groups didn't need spoken to after-all.

They were.

Then do enlighten us on what we were consulted on.

[Stivi]

Then do enlighten us on what we were consulted on.

The SAPD having a test before joining. No more ARPD. Jurisdiction.

[AK47]

The SAPD having a test before joining. No more ARPD. Jurisdiction.

RIP in peace freekops