Let's get real - part 2 - RS5 or RS4?

[Marcel]

Don't you find it just a little double-standard how you want players to start helping a community which was more or less killed by the very hands of your own crew?
The moaning might not make things any better, but these complaints were only an outcome of the way you chose to form your server. And yeah, you won't bring back RS4, just know that a huge pile of the weight is on you when you look at the server and see lack of activity. Don't blame the players for not joining what you ruined.

Hint: It's not MY server, it's not MY crew. Heck, i don't even volunteer for a position in the RPG server. Get your facts straight and be grateful for a change.

[Teddy]

Was planning, but didnt do before my report.

So he pretty much got owned by his own words.

When did he start? Exact date and time pls. Oh.. your talking out your ass again? Lovely. Your wrong, again.

[Acika]

When did he start? Exact date and time pls. Oh.. your talking out your ass again? Lovely. Your wrong, again.

He made some quick changes after my report, but since it again didnt work out he disabled it untill it's fully working.

Oh.. you're talking out your ass again? Lovely. You're wrong, again.

It's just pointless arguing with you.

If the script wasnt complete in years (2+, if im not wrong), then it wont be finished any time soon either.

[Pingster]

What's your goal here Acika?

[Teddy]

It's just pointless arguing with you.

No. it's pointless arguing with you because your own over inflated ego blocks any sense of logic from getting out and you have no idea what you are talking about. The plan, action of, doing of, or anything to do with the loan system had nothing to do with you. We already knew of the problems far before you knew there was a loan system. His choice to redo it was before your post existed and by chance the loan system was disabled around that time.

I don't know why we're even arguing about this; only goes to prove my point about your ego.

The point is you don't contribute anything to help improve the situation and now I'm sick of it. If people are just gonna rant beyond this point posts will be removed. Be constructive or get lost.

[Acika]

And i thought that we're all even here, seems like i was wrong.

[Devin]

Everyone is even until they decide to spread stories to incriminate and/or disrespect others.

[Acika]

Then what's wrong with my answer to Marcel ?

GTA San Andreas took about two years from announcement until release, and that game turned out pretty awesome, huh?

But Rockstars released fully functional and playable game, which RS5 is not and it didnt turn out pretty awesome, huh

[Devin]

Are you serious right now? Does Argonath look like a multi-million dollar corporation that can pay a company worth of game developers to create a game?
You expect the work in the same time frame from people spending their spare time to create a script for the players to be the same?

[Marcel]

But Rockstars released fully functional and playable game, which RS5 is not and it didnt turn out pretty awesome, huh

Did you maybe forget that Rockstar released a huge patch a few months after the release of GTA:SA? Sound system that was crashing, lacking support for higher resolutions, OS updates causing save folder issues and dual monitor issues.

Give RS5 some time. Stop moaning. Now.

[taseen11]

But Rockstars released fully functional and playable game, which RS5 is not and it didnt turn out pretty awesome, huh

The scripters here aren't paid nor do this as a full time thing, they are volunteers working in their free time. There's a monumental difference between Rockstar scripters and Argonath scripters.

[SugarD]

How came everyone left the server when Gandalf went off too 

Most of them were online before he was.

[Leon.]

Fucking unbelievable.

Funny how you accuse me of being nothing but a constant talker, because the only thing you are doing right now aside from complaining about the system is sitting back and waiting for things to unfold. That's what you are doing.

Well, tell me then Mr. Argonath Messiah, what the fuck would you like for us to do? Want us to go get our 4 players that'll willingly rejoin SA:MP with fuckall, which I don't really give a flying fuck about, and roleplay with pretend outside criminal groups since there's hardly any criminal group activity (we don't need players when they can simply be roleplayed)? Want us to go get new players from other sources? No thank you, and no, I'm not becoming a fucking server salesman. JDC, if our very presence could make some damn miracle that SUDDENLY cause players to flood into the server, we would have done it. Our presence on the server (or lack of) has NO direct effect on the server's state, contrary to what you keep insisting in order to put us down.

Tell me, what exactly are you doing, JDC, aside from the typical glitter-and-sprinkle-covered bullshit response "helping new players" as an attempt to cover up your overall lack of ability to directly influence any of this retarded bullshit going on in the server? Sure, having people present helps because people like a filled server, but to have people means they must have incentive to come and stay. Where is our part in that? You expect us to get all of our members to come back, just like that? Anyone with half a brain cell's worth of observation ( ) could tell that most of our members are gone. It's pretty rare to even see four of them on MTA.

It's okay though, because clearly we were not welcome back in RS5 - Promises were made to us, only for us to be thrown right under the damn bus again and again... We had more than enough of it, and decided to let all of this swirling horse shit blow over without us having to deal with it. I feel like you're just mad because we don't want to stand in the middle of the horse shit tornado with you. We are not required to deal with the Argonath SA:MP community's BS, so we simply chose not to, since obviously we are no longer relevant around here. We're taking a break and allowing those who are able to fix the problems fix them (*tips hat to Teddy*)... I didn't know you guys missed us that much.

I believe the idea is for an official group to show that they are continuing to work in the present, rather than taking a laurel from the past and sitting on it forever, while expecting rewards to continue coming in.

I believe this idea is a big fat 'go fuck yourself' to us and the other official groups, considering what was said and promised to us before the advent of RS5. But I guess breaking promises and constantly having changes of mind without notifying those whom it pertains to is perfectly acceptable and totally our fault for being frustrated, right? We poured out our heart and soul into the server and our groups, and look what we fucking got in return - piss in the eye and shit in the mouth.

This is NOT a solution. This is you pointing out things that anyone with half a brain cell's worth of observation skills can see.

I'm talking about making an actual plan, discussing the dynamics, a roadmap for possible implementation, etc. Teddy is doing a better job at it than you are.

Here you go again with your condescending and putting people down to feel better about your insecurities and lack of true conviction behind your glittering words... you could have simply told him that it isn't a solution, then the second half of the post without saying someone is doing a better job than him. Why do you feel the need to constantly judge peoples brains as if yours were the standard to which all others are compared? Stop being so damn rude all the time.

Now tell me, what will help solve the problem more? Mere complaining, or playing and proposing solutions? If you cannot answer this question correctly, then you should reconsider why you are not getting anywhere.

How about you answer it?



To conclude - JDC, since you obviously don't know anything about what the hell you're talking about every time you put Gvardia into a post, keep the name Gvardia from your mouth. You're doing nothing but spreading bullshit rumors. Everything you have said about us is highly misinformed and outright slander, as has been the case for years.

P.S. By the way, we did NOT leave because we lost our official status. Keep that rumor the hell out of here. It's disgraceful. Really. It's even more pitiful that those who have known us for years believed that shit.

[Devin]

It's okay though, because clearly we were not welcome back in RS5 - Promises were made to us, only for us to be thrown right under the damn bus again and again... We had more than enough of it, and decided to let all of this swirling horse shit blow over without us having to deal with it. I feel like you're just mad because we don't want to stand in the middle of the horse shit tornado with you. We are not required to deal with the Argonath SA:MP community's BS, so we simply chose not to, since obviously we are no longer relevant around here. We're taking a break and allowing those who are able to fix the problems fix them (*tips hat to Teddy*)... I didn't know you guys missed us that much.

I believe this idea is a big fat 'go f**k yourself' to us and the other official groups, considering what was said and promised to us before the advent of RS5. But I guess breaking promises and constantly having changes of mind without notifying those whom it pertains to is perfectly acceptable and totally our fault for being frustrated, right? We poured out our heart and soul into the server and our groups, and look what we f**king got in return - piss in the eye and shit in the mouth.
Here you go again with your condescending and putting people down to feel better about your insecurities and lack of true conviction behind your glittering words... you could have simply told him that it isn't a solution, then the second half of the post without saying someone is doing a better job than him. Why do you feel the need to constantly judge peoples brains as if yours were the standard to which all others are compared? Stop being so damn rude all the time.

How about you answer it?

I would love to hear what these "promises" were about and who made these promises as I have yet to hear a single thing about them but simply hear that "promises were broken".

[Mikal]

we did NOT leave because we lost our official status.

It's not a rumour, one of your Gvardia buddies said so himself.