Enough is enough, the rules apply for all

[JDC]

Could someone please explain the point of this topic to me? Please.

Some people are angry because admins don't punish certain players in a way designed to cater to their need for reassurance / positive reinforcement. (or in simpler terms: satisfy their egos)

[Chris_Knight]

If someone is getting suspected several times in a row by a player, then i agree it becomes an administrative matter as it's obvious that the police officer is just there to grief the players playtime.
I both agree and disagree with you on it.

I understand that when you play on a server like this, you want to do whatever you want to do. However, as it's an online game with many players online, things will not go according to your own plans all the time. If you play online, you always must understand that other factors will change things for you and you will simply have to accept that.

I agree,that's what exactly I meant by saying now and then investigation can be roleplayed.
I get the part where its an online gaming and each party should provide fun to other parties. Same with traffic stops and etc.
But I mean when you get pulled over 10 times a day just to hear 1. i'll check your license 2.your license is clear 3. you can go now and that all extended on 10 minutes each,and on top of that investigations 10 minutes each at least three times a day. I mean you gotta agree you spend really much time dedicated to law enforcement as citizen or criminal.

That's what generaly I believe Cofi is trying to voice mail.
People simply are tired of this overdose attention coming from cops towards civilians.
From enjoying it got them annoyed.

And that's why I belive we constantly hear "again abused" "again jailed" "again pulled over". because it's not even to discuss when ever officer indeed is aware of his actions or not,but simply the fact players receive that attention daily so much that they find easiest solution fastly punish officers by using report system,and that's why they feel as a need enforce stricter punishments from admin side on cops as server based rules not roleplay terms.

That's Imo tho.

[Huntsman]

Oh my.. Yet another book to reply to.. I see you've got too much time on your hands.

who work hard to fix this community will only make you look stupid.

You see, in order to fix something, you must fix it to the point where everybody would be satisfied, which means you must listen to the players. If what's going on right now is what you call fixing, then thank god you're not a plumber, I wouldn't let you get anywhere my broken sink even if I was paid to. A considerable amount of players are agreeing to the issue that Cofi has put to our attention, yet administration still denies it. The players are the majority who plays here, not the admins or developers, therefore it should be wise atleast listening to what they have to say, and perhaps, offer an alternative solution if the one that Cofi is proposing cannot be done for some kind of uknown reasons. And even though /su abuse is not a rulebreak, who the hell prohibits the SA:MP management to edit the rules? If that's what the players want, then it is what it should be.

to gain some sort of (hope for) power through hopeless "politician" acts, perhaps the administration could actually take you seriously then.

You do realise how f**king ironic you sound right now?
Oh and by the way, I've got news for you: people already stopped taking you and your books seriously long ago, if you think otherwise, you might as well wipe that arrogance gained through asslicking everyone in power out of your eyes so you can finally see.

Of course it's not thanks to you, but thanks to our loyal players and the effort of Devin and our scripters.

Sure, because I'm no longer a loyal player just because I took a pause due to my studies. If I would not be planning on returning back to proper activity once my studies were done, I wouldn't be wasting my time here arguing with blind people in the first place.

[Manas]

As chris said,
Situations where there is 90% probability to get abused by a cop without a valid reason-
- Alone in a backalley
- Walking on street alone
- Talking with friends on street
- Moving in convoy
- being armoured
-near weed spots
- When we approach a buy with the intention of RPing in the streets of LS. A cop intervenes for sure.

This has made daily life a joke. You can't roam around streets of Los Santos for an hour without being abused by a cop atleast once

and investigation, jailing suing goes on.
This slowly develops a hate for blue dots.
But that's not all, what cofi said was true in many cases i had seen.

This has to be changed. We can't go on face
license registration speed frisk every fcking 10 mins on a road 

[Cyril]

And even though /su abuse is not a rulebreak, who the hell prohibits the SA:MP management to edit the rules?

We don't invent new rules like that. It needs to be discussed within the HQ and approved by Gandalf.
And it would still be up to the admin to handle it as they wish.

[Chris_Knight]

Rytuklis


Your arrogance and lack of understanding is only issue people might see here.

Zaila clearly mentioned it will be reviewed and discussed in admin meeting.
And you are no one to tell what admins do,you are none of them and never been to judge,so stick to your side but don't throw provocations around.

Players got an idea boards for stating what they wish to see differently,they are always reviewed and answered accordingly with cons and pluses. So again stick your head out of the arrogance shell and respect Jdc dedication even respond to your absurd.

[Manas]

Rytuklis

Quote-"If you spit at sky, you know on whom spit falls on"

[Pandalink]

Many of the new ideas that were implemented came from the players. They complain when their ideas are not considered, and they complain even more when their ideas are implemented. Some people should f**king learn how to make up their minds. Your voices were heard, and then this happened. Much of the blame belongs to no other but yourselves. Pointing fingers at the staff who work hard to fix this community will only make you look stupid.

Why does the police jurisdiction script still exist?

It's a perfect example of something that is only in because if it was removed like everyone wants it would be considered wasted development time. The bottom line? Shit happens, sometimes you have to ditch weeks/months of work because it was a bad idea and/or wasn't implemented well. It's an integral part of software development. Or hell, any development at all really.

Could someone please explain the point of this topic to me? Please.

Cofiliano raised the fact that players on duty receive lighter admin punishments than those not on duty for the same offenses.
He was questioning this practice.

Of course it's not thanks to you, but thanks to our loyal players and the effort of Devin and our scripters.
Go back to your corner and moan there, thanks.

This reply is astonishing. Like f**king astoundingly rude, beyond the level of it being appropriate for any player, let alone someone who's meant to set an example such as yourself. It's no wonder so many turn away from this community if this is what's acceptable.

Of course it's not thanks to you, but thanks to our loyal players and the effort of Devin and our scripters.

Sure, because I'm no longer a loyal player just because I took a pause due to my studies.

Yea, really.

What's up with the antagonisation, Cyril?

[Cyril]

We won't take shit from people that are not active on our server. Why? Because their opinions don't reflect the reality of what is going on in the server.
Yes some cops might abuse you sometimes, well deal with it. You reported it? Good, the admin will deal with it as he thinks it's the best.
Saying the HQ doesn't give a crap about players or don't listen to them, I'm sorry but it's bullshit.

Why does the police jurisdiction script still exist?

Because Gandalf wanted it to please players? People complained there were too many cops at LS and other part were empty, good, Gandalf listened to you (which again proved that we listen to the community) and implemented this. What is the result? People complain even more..
That's why most of your ideas are turned down, because it won't work. We don't have the same vision of the server. You only see what could benefit you, but when applied to the whole server, it's bound to fail.
Now, Jurisdiction might change in future, however for now it's not a priority at all.

[Huntsman]

Rytuklis


Your arrogance and lack of understanding is only issue people might see here.

Zaila clearly mentioned it will be reviewed and discussed in admin meeting.
And you are no one to tell what admins do,you are none of them and never been to judge,so stick to your side but don't throw provocations around.

Players got an idea boards for stating what they wish to see differently,they are always reviewed and answered accordingly with cons and pluses. So again stick your head out of the arrogance shell and respect Jdc dedication even respond to your absurd.

My bad that I havent noticed Zaila's response - I was too hot-headed arguing with Cyril and JDC here.

So again stick your head out of the arrogance shell and respect Jdc dedication even respond to your absurd.

I'm sorry but I would really rather he would not.

This reply is astonishing. Like f**king astoundingly rude, beyond the level of it being appropriate for any player, let alone someone who's meant to set an example such as yourself. It's no wonder so many turn away from this community if this is what's acceptable.

That was exactly what I was trying to point out the entire time and that's why I just couldn't stop arguing. Finally someone who got atleast a percent of what I was trying to say, thank you!

We won't take shit from people that are not active on our server. Why?

So players only mean numbers to you, right? I've already told you I've been a very active member ever since 2010, and I've never been as inactive as I am now, and as I already said, that's because I'm currently having the most important exams of my life at the moment, to which I have to study and when these exams are over (and they will be very soon - on June) my activity will be back to what it was in 2010-2013. Just because I took a pause doesn't mean  I have no right to have a say in matters that regard the whole community.

[Devin]

Okay we get the point, you were active.

It still does not change the fact that throwing statements like "HQ do not give two shits about the players opinions and requests" will not be tolerated from here on out.
I don't care if that's someone's opinion, they're welcome to it but by tossing statements like that over the forum or server I will not tolerate in the slightest.

[Celso]

You see someone abusing, and behaving badly has cops and you think it should end?
- Report it here Magic Link

If you think that what the officer did was too bad and should be reported to administration and not SAPD command.
- /report

Is it that hard to understand? is it easier to sit and moan about it, yes but if you keep moaning about those who break the rules, nothing will get fixed.

[Chris_Knight]

You see someone abusing, and behaving badly has cops and you think it should end?
- Report it here Magic Link

If you think that what the officer did was too bad and should be reported to administration and not SAPD command.
- /report

Is it that hard to understand? is it easier to sit and moan about it, yes but if you keep moaning about those who break the rules, nothing will get fixed.

I can clearly see you have not read any of the post,especialy not the main Cofi wrote,if you can't dedicate of doing so,don't parcitipate in this discussion as your response can be understood only by your self.

[Miller786]

Because Gandalf wanted it to please players? People complained there were too many cops at LS and other part were empty, good, Gandalf listened to you (which again proved that we listen to the community) and implemented this. What is the result? People complain even more..

Yea, maybe a bit late? It has been suggested for 2 years during rs4 with 100 players at any hour and everybody was like "its not needed at all,SAPD can organize it without scripts" and other bullshit, instead of saying the truth "we havent got enough manpower to script it" or "it cant be implemented in the current script without rewriting it all"
Now in rs5 with an avarge 30 playercount (could be easily predicted as this was exactly what happened with rs4) you implement this new feature? Thanks guys really, we can now enjoy roaming in a ghost town! At the moment This feature is broken and who says the opposite is just a retarted!   -daily rage achieved
At this point why dont you add passports for each city and town and all the other shit ripped off from other servers that restrains citizens from moving from a certain location? So we'll be all happy

Im not complaining that this feature is broken but there are still some people that dont want to admit it

[Marcel]

This might be a bit radical, but how would a modern remake of RS4 sound? Make it a hybrid: take all the good stuff from RS4 and RS5 and melt it together in a modern, fast, stable and secure script. This can be done easily by a well communicating and professional scripting team. Count me in if we're doing it.