Enough is enough, the rules apply for all

[KelviNC]

When are you all going to learn this?^

A new player breaks a rule because he doesn't know what he's doing wrong. A veteran breaks a rule (copduty etc) just to be a f**king moron.
Stop blaming everything on the new players.

Yes, for sure I'm blaming the newbie in what I said. However, my point is that the newcommers shall not be allowed to join the copduty, other then that I don't have any problem from the newcommers. As he server management states that the rules apply for all. No one is allowed to break rules, if he's admin/mod in the server.

Don't take it as moaning which it said in my last post.  I just suggest that the newcommers should not be able to join the cop duty until they know the job totally, that how it works. Then simply no one would moan a newcommer.

[Cyril]

New players will always be allowed to join cop duty if they wish.
No point to argue about it, it's not going to change.

[KelviNC]

New players will always be allowed to join cop duty if they wish.
No point to argue about it, it's not going to change.

I never forced you guys to use this. I just suggested an idea, nothing more.

[Manas]

New players will always be allowed to join cop duty if they wish.
No point to argue about it, it's not going to change.

Atleast a wait for their passports and driving license would be appreciated as it is in MTA.
Could you explain why that cannot be changed?

[TiMoN]

Atleast a wait for their passports and driving license would be appreciated as it is in MTA.
Could you explain why that cannot be changed?

It still doesn't change much. I have seen more trolls with passports than newbies who just joined.

[CharlieKasper]

Da fuk, i just logged into the server and a cop comes and /su me for suspicious gang activity and starts shooting.

Please any admin hop in. He is abusing many players
ID - Jackling jobalinghar.
A UC admin would be appreciated.

When no admins are online, you record or take pictures and send it to [email protected]. Admins (or even UC admin, who may not be always available) can't act on some rulebreak unless they have seen it.

I just suggest that the newcommers should not be able to join the cop duty until they know the job totally, that how it works. Then simply no one would moan a newcommer.

New players are what make up Argonath. How is a new player going to have enough experience of something without even being allowed to experience the something? Your logic doesn't make sense.

Atleast a wait for their passports and driving license would be appreciated as it is in MTA.
Could you explain why that cannot be changed?

Because MTA is different? The SA:MP community is very different than MTA community (talking about the game community in general not Argonath). You can't compare MTA SA with SA:MP until SA:MP's scripting capability is close to MTA or until MTA's playerbase is close to SA:MP. A player who has just recieved his passport and license would still be a newbie cop when he/she joins the police duty for the first time. Even if they have seen other cops doing how it should be done, they have no fucking idea of how it all works. They just do it how they want.

[Manas]

A player who has just recieved his passport and license would still be a newbie cop when he/she joins the police duty for the first time. Even if they have seen other cops doing how it should be done, they have no f**king idea of how it all works. They just do it how they want.

Agree with you Charlie but,
Given a passport, till then he will know
1. What is argonath
2. How we interact
3. What are basic server rules
4. Not to DM anyone

[Cyril]

Agree with you Charlie but,
Given a passport, till then he will know

3. What are basic server rules
4. Not to DM anyone

Well, you have a passport and know the basic rules, yet you have been punished few times for deathmatching and other rulebreak...

[Manas]

Well, you have a passport and know the basic rules, yet you have been punished few times for deathmatching and other rulebreak...

Aww.... Yes.

But much of the direct DM cases come from those not having passports.

[AK47]

But much of the direct DM cases come from those not having passports.

False.

[ClazzyJogel]

New players will always be allowed to join cop duty if they wish.
No point to argue about it, it's not going to change.

This is what made me stay in Argonath for my first months, and this is what makes us unique.

[JDC]

Aww.... Yes.

But much of the direct DM cases come from those not having passports.

False, the worst problems (including the worst copbaiters) come from those who already know enough about the server and the rules.

You are one good example, highlighted by that copbait rampage of yours with your friends earlier.

[Manas]

False, the worst problems (including the worst copbaiters) come from those who already know enough about the server and the rules.

You are one good example, highlighted by that copbait rampage of yours with your friends earlier.

Copbait rampage? Oh really? It wasn't even a copbait. What the manager saw was half story not full.
And yes, i got proofs to disprove him, rather i had sent that on required forums. Well, you don't get followed up by [email protected] many times you report someone in the HQ. Things are done behind the scenes which even you are unaware of.

[KelviNC]

New players are what make up Argonath. How is a new player going to have enough experience of something without even being allowed to experience the something? Your logic doesn't make sense.

Try to think deeper mate, if you don't wanna extend the time for a player joining the police duty, sure it's up to you, but atleast you guys can make the question a bit difficult? I don't think that's to hard to do.
The server has provided a command /help and from that a new player could get all the information about the cops and could pass the exams. I think this could help a little.

But much of the direct DM cases come from those not having passports.

No, Manaz, I would not agree with this. The player having PASSPORT/Licence also have an bad admin record.

[Rusty]

New players will always be allowed to join cop duty if they wish.
No point to argue about it, it's not going to change.

Requiring a passport and even a drivers license to go onto cop duty should be a requirement.  The "cop test" before you can go on duty was added (should have been made harder lol) so why not require people to have a passport first aswell?  New payers can't get on duty if they can't pass the test so ... they aren't "always" allowed.