Enough is enough, the rules apply for all

[Cyril]

It happens that regular/veterans say that helping new players is not there job, yet they complain when new player break rules that impact their gameplay.

[Lustigkurre]

*Newplayer joins server*
Newplayer: "hi, i am new what i do on this server"
Regular: "f**k off, I'm too busy focusing on my own roleplay. I have no time to help new players like you."
*regular doesn't teach new player*
*Newplayer breaks rules out of ignorance*
Regular: "OMG ADMINS THIS NOOB IS DMING ME WE NEED MORE LIMITS ON NEW PLAYERS"

Such logic.

Must have been fun for you to write those lines, but I don't think these kind of scenes actually happens.

[TiMoN]

Must have been fun for you to write those lines, but I don't think these kind of scenes actually happens.

True, nobody tells anyone to f**k off without getting kicked.

[KelviNC]

http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=32469.0

[Cyril]

http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=32469.0

At least next time you know that if you have to do something, you better quit the game than staying AFK.

[KelviNC]

At least next time you know that if you have to do something, you better quit the game than staying AFK.

lol! Don't take out mistakes from it. Read the whole report.

You checking that what mistake I have made, see that what the newcomer did?

[Cyril]

lol! Don't take out mistakes from it. Read the whole report.

You checking that what mistake I have made, see that what the newcomer did?

Have you tried to help him and explain him how the server works?

[KelviNC]

No, I have not. I got a perfect reason behind it. When I returned into the game, he was no online at that time.

[Devin]

This is where I would like to see people helping others instead of resorting to reports for every little matter.

[Stivi]

Have you tried to help him and explain him how the server works?

Exactly what I wanted to hear. Many have a problem with this, it's not funny for them. And it's not funny when you don't have power to unsuspect yourself and then laugh at the chicken skin guy who probably /q to avoid ban.

He was AFK, there's no rule to stop anyone going AFK, unless he's blocking a "busy" road/PnS. ( Oh wait... )

This is where I would like to see people helping others instead of resorting to reports for every little matter.

The HQ should understand our frustration when such things happen. It's not our duty, as civilians, to teach a cop how to do his job. There are SAPD high-ranks who should be doing this and there are moderators as well. A regular player might do it once, twice, but not all the time. People go IG to have fun and RP, not teach some dudes that don't understand English how to not ruin their game-play.

[Manas]

The HQ should understand our frustration when such things happen. It's not our duty, as civilians, to teach a cop how to do his job. There are SAPD high-ranks who should be doing this and there are moderators as well. A regular player might do it once, twice, but not all the time. People go IG to have fun and RP, not teach some dudes that don't understand English how to not ruin their game-play.

 
Hats Off.

[Chuck_Norris]

I'm not entirely in favor of automation either, but I point out that things had to reach this level because we have too much regulars and "veterans" who turn up their noses at new players.

*Newplayer joins server*
Newplayer: "hi, i am new what i do on this server"
Regular: "f**k off, I'm too busy focusing on my own roleplay. I have no time to help new players like you."
*regular doesn't teach new player*
*Newplayer breaks rules out of ignorance*
Regular: "OMG ADMINS THIS NOOB IS DMING ME WE NEED MORE LIMITS ON NEW PLAYERS"

Such logic.

That's what you get when no action is taken against so called 'regulars with the argonath vision'

[Cyril]

It's not our duty, as civilians, to teach a cop how to do his job.

Here we go. You are part of an official group and you are a regular player.
Therefore you job is to help anyone on this server. If you don't bother doing that, then don't complain.

[JDC]

You would have a point if this actually happened in the first place.

Can you show me even a single example of a regular player behaving like that with the new players?

Must have been fun for you to write those lines, but I don't think these kind of scenes actually happens.

True, nobody tells anyone to f**k off without getting kicked.

If you thought I was typing those lines verbatim rather than how the train of thought works, then your common sense needs improvement.

I cba to post such singular instances as I have better things to do than lie in wait for the next regular who doesn't give a f**k about new players. But if you really want me or someone else to, and you become guilty of this, don't pull up any regrets or excuses if your or your friends' names are posted for all the world to see.

In the real [Argonath] world, different from the distant, theoretical realm of people who value roleplay and exclusivity over being nice to others, this actually happens a lot. Or else, we wouldn't even need it to be a specialized task of Moderators in the first place. We even have examples in this very topic.

The HQ should understand our frustration when such things happen. It's not our duty, as civilians, to teach a cop how to do his job. There are SAPD high-ranks who should be doing this and there are moderators as well. A regular player might do it once, twice, but not all the time. People go IG to have fun and RP, not teach some dudes that don't understand English how to not ruin their game-play.

The non-English speakers cannot really be taught anyway; the best we can do is direct them to someone who speaks their language, but usually they never stay long, for obvious reasons. So let's get that out of the picture.

Regular cops who abuse and rulebreak are a different matter. We have the ARPD/SAPD/FBI and admins to handle them.

When you're talking about a new player, they are still a new player, regardless if they are cop, fireman, driver, criminal, mechanic, etc. And you, regardless of your occupation, are a player who knows more than them. If a junior player breaks the rules (rules which YOU are aware of, especially being part of an OFFICIAL group... what a nice example we have here) out of ignorance and you choose to turn a blind eye and pin the blame on someone else, rather than teach them (even if you know how it is done correctly) because of some excuse such as

It's not our duty

then you have no right to complain the next time you see a new player breaking a rule because someone didn't bother to enlighten them in the first place, when they had the chance.

Not to mention your post generalized just about all new players who were ignorant of the rules as non-English speakers and a general waste of time.

That's what you get when no action is taken against so called 'regulars with the argonath vision'

Just what is your point here?

[Chuck_Norris]

If you see no point - My point is made. Reflect on that !