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Reply #90 on: July 17, 2014, 12:10:51 am
If the scripters could utilize 0.3z functions to create a true "disabling" way, that'd be great. How would it function is basic, a hydra fires a rocket at an escaping plane, as soon as the rocket hits(it would register as an RPG/Explosion) the script detects the old HP and sets it back after the damage was taken.(I'm aware that there's no callback for vehicles taking damage, but you can use timers to do it) Then the engine is "forced" to be off for like 5 seconds(?) so the vehicle is actually "disabled".

EDIT: I just realized this isn't possible, as there's no way to detect how the vehicle took damage.



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Reply #92 on: July 17, 2014, 12:38:29 am
I agree that using hydra and hunter on people on the ground shouldn't be allowed whatsoever. I saw it happen like 3 weeks ago for an example.

I thought SAPD and FBI wasn't allowed to hunt suspects in a ground vehicle (except boats) with a hunter or hydra?


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Reply #93 on: July 17, 2014, 12:45:00 am
I thought SAPD and FBI wasn't allowed to hunt suspects in a ground vehicle (except boats) with a hunter or hydra?
Correct. But they do.




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Reply #94 on: July 17, 2014, 12:47:04 am
I thought SAPD and FBI wasn't allowed to hunt suspects in a ground vehicle (except boats) with a hunter or hydra?
Incorrect, it depends on the situations (can give more information on skype if you wish)



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Reply #95 on: July 17, 2014, 01:09:17 am
Incorrect, it depends on the situations (can give more information on skype if you wish)
No matter how hard a situation might be, a hydra/hunter is never needed to take a ground vehicle. If FBI/SAPD/SWAT/whoeverthef**k is a cop on the server needs rockets or miniguns i think you could call Ben Samiir to teach them how to stop any vehicle on the ground, without the pole mod as well.  :jackson:

I am now, and have always been against hunters/hydras against ANY ground vehicle, including boats. Give cops a predator instead. :)



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Reply #96 on: July 17, 2014, 01:14:50 am
The same thing over and over.. If you do not wish to be shot, consider giving up for once. HA is only allowed to pull out if the situation seems deemed, even ground. And yes, I know what I talk about as I'm a ex-AD command member.

Dont want to get your ass kicked ? /give up. HA doesn't pull out for a bullshit reasons, and if you think they do, get the guts to report it.



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Reply #97 on: July 17, 2014, 01:59:14 am
The same thing over and over.. If you do not wish to be shot, consider giving up for once.
pHAHAHAHAHAHA



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Reply #98 on: July 17, 2014, 03:38:57 am
If the scripters could utilize 0.3z functions to create a true "disabling" way, that'd be great. How would it function is basic, a hydra fires a rocket at an escaping plane, as soon as the rocket hits(it would register as an RPG/Explosion) the script detects the old HP and sets it back after the damage was taken.(I'm aware that there's no callback for vehicles taking damage, but you can use timers to do it) Then the engine is "forced" to be off for like 5 seconds(?) so the vehicle is actually "disabled".

EDIT: I just realized this isn't possible, as there's no way to detect how the vehicle took damage.

I actually have a  test script which detects the firing of the minigun and rockets, however its is not possible to actually disable the weapons yet.

I actually wish there was no need for hydra or hunter to be armed at all, however I have seen too many cops die when being assaulted by many of the crime families here, they know who they are and some are the regular moaners too...

I will see what can be done, but the guidance will not be made public.... you will need to trust me..


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Reply #99 on: July 17, 2014, 07:56:46 am
pHAHAHAHAHAHA
And when you get killed as suspect because you refuse to give up, then you will blame SAPD of abuse, DM and whatnot.



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Reply #100 on: July 17, 2014, 09:17:29 am
Well I've not been here from the start of rs4 ... I joined in 23rd of July 2011 ...And since then I'd never seen in rs4 such a vehicle to fire missiles on land vehicles... and I did see them rarelly working against airborn suspects... Maybe it was just luck maybe not... this is really not what I care about...

Many people say that this is a complain topic and alot of pretty useless things I'd say...

I do not think that they should be removed, they are there for a reason and I'm not against that. I find 100% the regulation that allows a hunter/hydra pilot to shoot a land vehicle that opens fire on them. And I really don't get why I am the only one finding that extremelly wrong... When the hunter stalks a land vehicle, the suspects in it are unabled to both escape from the hunter but to also lose their wanted level... In conclusion they could remain suspects till they actually get caught or decide to give up.... So their only solution is to stop and open fire on the hunter/hydra just like they would do if it was a police chopper... Now even though they are actually forced to do that you still find it right to get yourselves the right to throw missiles on them for that? Even though some have opposed me on what I'm about to say, I personally would call this forcing Roleplay... As the suspects need to escape and their only way to do so is by shooting on the hunter/hydra and when they do so, the hunter/hydra gets the right to shoot them...

For the ones that don't understand how wrong it is I will make a simple examble...
You are a suspect in your car in an alley that leads to a dead end and has enough space to fit your car and also give you space to exit from it... A police officer is at the exit holding a minigun , which he is not allowed to use unless being shot at or engaged in anyway... The suspect is completly trapped in there so he has to either run him over(against the rules but anyway) or get out of the vehicle and shoot him to get away... By doing so the minigun carrier immediatelly gets the right to shoot back and does so...

Now that you also read my examble... please tell me if I'm seeing something wrong, or tell me why you keep on allowing such a thing... I am not against Hunter/Hydra, I love them, but that particular rule is completly wrong ... And once again every rule that applies to them should be given to the public ... Every rule that applies anywhere should be open for the public to see... just like groups that don't want their members to Scam or Get on PD duty have it on public for people to see and report, same way should AirDiv , and every other group on the server... FBI , SAPD , AD , and w/e else exists...
I am expecting an answer here!!!


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Reply #101 on: July 17, 2014, 10:30:25 am
And years later on there are still people who don't think authorities can make mistakes.

Everyone makes mistakes, so that's a stupid sentence you chose to put into my mouth.

The reason they're in charge though, is that they could handle it a lot better than most others, who would just fuck up things.

You may as well outright state what you are implying, and say that you think all the authorities who use the HA just fuck around with it.

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Reply #102 on: July 17, 2014, 11:12:26 am
I actually have a  test script which detects the firing of the minigun and rockets, however its is not possible to actually disable the weapons yet.
It's kinda easy to detect whenever a player presses ctrl, but my suggestion was to disable the attacked vehicle, aka turn off the engine for some time so it wouldn't function. So you would need a function to detect how the vehicle took damage.



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Reply #103 on: July 17, 2014, 11:36:33 am
It's just one of these Monte's troll posts, nothing else but his typical habit to annoy people to death. Can't believe people are actually even discussing this.

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Reply #104 on: July 17, 2014, 11:41:47 am
It's just one of these Monte's troll posts, nothing else but his typical habit to annoy people to death. Can't believe people are actually even discussing this.

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