An end to constant use of military jets and helicopters

[Lustigkurre]

Everyone makes mistakes, so that's a stupid sentence you chose to put into my mouth.

The reason they're in charge though, is that they could handle it a lot better than most others, who would just f**k up things.

As we've seen quite some misstakes being made, I feel that this topic was necessary. Hopefully there will be a even more precisely usage of them now. And hopefully players now understand that its allowed to use hydra/hunter on ground suspects in certain situations when the cops have been struggeling with the group of suspects for a long time.


You may as well outright state what you are implying, and say that you think all the authorities who use the HA just f**k around with it.

As we've seen quite some misstakes being made, I feel that this topic was necessary. Hopefully there will be a even more precisely usage of them now. And hopefully players now understand that its allowed to use hydra/hunter on ground suspects in certain situations when the cops have been struggeling with the group of suspects for a long time.


You come off like an amateur with that last statement. I've never implied that, on the contrary I think they're mostly using hydra/hunters in a good way. But maybe you didn't have time to read the whole topic.

[Cofiliano]

@CBF, abusage of weapon for Mass Dming shouldnt be regulated by ARPD as you said, yet by the admins. Why? Cause its the most dangerous weapon for mass destruction in the game, this should have been regulated before all other things  by the rules(before regualting carjacking, Dming with combats etc).
Until you guys continue to avoid this, your usage and abusage of this will always be consider as a nepotism of few individuals who are using it what ever the way they want( as proven by many peoples testimony here), even ignoring that guideline you all talk about, not expecting any kind of sanctions for their misusage, just for personal fun.

[Acika]

Suspects are not terrorists that u can go around having fun shooting rockets on them for personal enjoyment.
I can't stop laughing on statements such as "group of people cant be killed so we need to use auto-locking machines on them", like cops can't return after death and try over and over again.

You should stop ruining fun for other players, both suspects and cops.

[PulseEffect]

I am expecting an answer here!!!

So you deny pilots the right to defend themselves when under fire from 3 drive byers with M4? I don't think that's right mate.

[jinjifliaktor]

Suspects are not terrorists that u can go around having fun shooting rockets on them for personal enjoyment.
I can't stop laughing on statements such as "group of people cant be killed so we need to use auto-locking machines on them", like cops can't return after death and try over and over again.

You should stop ruining fun for other players, both suspects and cops.

Last time I checked, Argonath wasn't some TDM / Cops & Criminals server.

[Kostas]

You deny them from escaping so they have to shiot you. If they do then get out of there you dont just throw missiles on them. Dont forget tha they are military vehicles and not police vehicles... And if they have the right to shoot back how will the suspects escape from them???

[Acika]

<off-topic nonsense, totally irrelevant to my post>

Excuse me, do i know you ?

[Brian]

You deny them from escaping so they have to shiot you. If they do then get out of there you dont just throw missiles on them. Dont forget tha they are military vehicles and not police vehicles... And if they have the right to shoot back how will the suspects escape from them???

Its your choice to shoot, not ours.

[Pablo Escobar]

2.  Argonath gives equal rights to new, experienced and admin players. We do not discriminate between players, and having admin rights or being a long time player does not give any of our players rights to act as better, higher or having more status as another.


This part taken from that link ; http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=38482.0


Unfortunatelly,i cannot see any equals between criminal players and cops.

[Alarba]

My 2 cents.
#ws

[CBFasi]

Suspects are not terrorists that u can go around having fun shooting rockets on them for personal enjoyment.
I can't stop laughing on statements such as "group of people cant be killed so we need to use auto-locking machines on them", like cops can't return after death and try over and over again.

So your saying that you shoudl be able to kill many ARPD just because they can return???
Your saying we cannot minimise the death to our own officers ?

You should stop ruining fun for other players, both suspects and cops.

Are you not banned at the moment, and have you not been punished many times for breaking those rules that are there to stop players ruining the fun of others..

@CBF, abusage of weapon for Mass Dming shouldnt be regulated by ARPD as you said, yet by the admins. Why? Cause its the most dangerous weapon for mass destruction in the game, this should have been regulated before all other things  by the rules(before regualting carjacking, Dming with combats etc).
Until you guys continue to avoid this, your usage and abusage of this will always be consider as a nepotism of few individuals who are using it what ever the way they want( as proven by many peoples testimony here), even ignoring that guideline you all talk about, not expecting any kind of sanctions for their misusage, just for personal fun.

The guidance in place was agreed with by the server owner, I do not think it can go any higher than that!
The guidance is managed by a server community leader, not just ARPD ...

As for abuse, anyone on the receiving end is going to say that!... (and I take your comments as a significant insult)

[Brian]

I do not see what equality to new, veteran players and administrators has to do with this.

[jinjifliaktor]

I do not see what equality to new, veteran players and administrators has to do with this.

He said that there is no equality between cops and criminals.

[JDC]

He said that there is no equality between cops and criminals.

This is not a TDM or Cops And Robbers gamemode. Cops have the advantage of "power", forcing criminals to be more resourceful, which in turn becomes their advantage. I have in fact seen good criminals outwit cops easily, while many poorer ones just get caught and bitch afterward.

You should stop ruining fun for other players

This is very ironic coming from you, who broke a lot of rules and disrespected a lot of players. The hypocrisy of you to point the finger at CBF when in fact his contribution to this community has far outshined yours, and does not include a load of disrespect and script abuse.

You come off like an amateur with that last statement. I've never implied that, on the contrary I think they're mostly using hydra/hunters in a good way. But maybe you didn't have time to read the whole topic.

If you think they use the HA in a good way, then that's good.

However, this topic itself is a moan against the usage of HA, and another one of Monte's unnecessary and annoying brainchildren. Hence, I can't be bothered to go through 6 more pages of what we could tell would be more people moaning against the use of HA.

Seriously, we all know what this discussion would turn out to be, yet someone just HAD to make a topic for it.

[Huntsman]

Feeling all lonely up on your high horse?

Not really, just observing the shit-storm you caused and having a good time. Come and join me if you wish, and bring some popcorn, I ran out.

On the topic, which has definitely derailed from its original purpose, what I have to say is this:

I don't support any ARPD entity having access to hunter or hyda like this. They should be given Sea Sparrow, IMO, which can be used as a combat plane when stuff gets hot, and is much less lethal and few shots from that thing is enough to give the suspect a message. I think a seperate entity from the ARPD, perhaps some kind of an airforce, should be given access to hydra and hunter under very strict guidelines and could use them only under very special circumstances.