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An end to constant use of military jets and helicopters

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Reply #120 on: July 17, 2014, 03:34:40 pm
A sea sparrow is slower than a Maverick, what's the point of that?  :neutral2:



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Reply #121 on: July 17, 2014, 03:40:07 pm
I think a seperate entity from the ARPD, perhaps some kind of an airforce, should be given access to hydra and hunter under very strict guidelines and could use them only under very special circumstances.
Air Division...?



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Reply #122 on: July 17, 2014, 03:55:06 pm
Air Division...?

As I said... A seperate entity from the ARPD.. Did you even read what I wrote or did you take the first chance you saw to try and be smart?

A sea sparrow is slower than a Maverick, what's the point of that?  :neutral2:
Well, it has a mounted machine gun that could be used instead these hunters and hydra's.

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Reply #123 on: July 17, 2014, 03:58:40 pm
So your saying that you shoudl be able to kill many ARPD just because they can return???
Your saying we cannot minimise the death to our own officers ?
Are you not banned at the moment, and have you not been punished many times for breaking those rules that are there to stop players ruining the fun of others..
They are returning on their own will, noone is forcing them to return.
Also being "able" to kill someone requires some skill, noone will come to you and tell you to kill him cause he wants to die.

It should be a challenge to show that you have better organization and strategy than Criminal groups.

I can't recall myself flying around bombing people and ruining the game for them. It's a pity that you are using auto-locking vehicles and ruining the fun for people who accepted the challenge(cops). I, as cop, dont accept that i need HA to take someone down, that's humiliating for me.
My ban has nothing to do with this theme, i was banned for trying to prove that some of Corleone members are hacking, which is totally off-topic now.

In RS5 its solved nicely, the more cops you kill, the more money you lose, one more reason why you should not do the things you do.



 

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Reply #124 on: July 17, 2014, 04:00:08 pm
As I said... A seperate entity from the ARPD.. Did you even read what I wrote or did you take the first chance you saw to try and be smart?
Well, it has a mounted machine gun that could be used instead these hunters and hydra's.

I've read what you said, but why would you do that. That would mean they commit crimes when they take down a aircraft.
I don't see the issue here. The system is working fine like it is, people just can't understand that if they go airborne they'll be taken down with force if needed.



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Reply #125 on: July 17, 2014, 04:03:47 pm
I've read what you said, but why would you do that. That would mean they commit crimes when they take down a aircraft.
I don't see the issue here. The system is working fine like it is, people just can't understand that if they go airborne they'll be taken down with force if needed.
You are doing exactly the same as others. Try to solve the problem on another way, with better organization and skills. At the end you will feel better ;)

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Reply #126 on: July 17, 2014, 04:15:12 pm
This is not a TDM or Cops And Robbers gamemode. Cops have the advantage of "power", forcing criminals to be more resourceful, which in turn becomes their advantage. I have in fact seen good criminals outwit cops easily, while many poorer ones just get caught and bitch afterward.



This is very ironic coming from you, who broke a lot of rules and disrespected a lot of players. The hypocrisy of you to point the finger at CBF when in fact his contribution to this community has far outshined yours, and does not include a load of disrespect and script abuse.



If you think they use the HA in a good way, then that's good.

However, this topic itself is a moan against the usage of HA, and another one of Monte's unnecessary and annoying brainchildren. Hence, I can't be bothered to go through 6 more pages of what we could tell would be more people moaning against the use of HA.

Seriously, we all know what this discussion would turn out to be, yet someone just HAD to make a topic for it.

The first post of this topic is kinda rediciolus with the point being made that hydras are flying low or whatever. But the topic turned out to be interesting with discussion about situations when the usage of HA is allowed. In some cases these guidelines has not been followed correctly. And appearantly some of the people (both criminals and HA users) didn't know about them.
If one feels that the guidelines are bad, then he must have the opportunity to discuss it. But you, without reading the whole topic, come here and say it's all moan and the topic is pointless. It's not the first time you're trying to close topics with the word "moan" as explanation.

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Reply #127 on: July 17, 2014, 05:22:23 pm
i was banned for trying to prove that some of Corleone members are hacking

No, banned for blatantly leading a group of players through Pershing square whilst deathmatching an individual.
If someone is "hacking" then administration will deal with it by themselves.



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Reply #128 on: July 17, 2014, 05:33:58 pm
You are doing exactly the same as others. Try to solve the problem on another way, with better organization and skills. At the end you will feel better ;)

Exactly, I don't think that someone being airborne is a valid enough reason to engage with heavy air. You can use beagle to drive-by with, you can also use seasparrow, if that would be given to you, since that thing can get the job done without rocket rape.

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Reply #129 on: July 17, 2014, 05:34:20 pm
I can't recall myself flying around bombing people and ruining the game for them.
Nope, you use your weapons and one line sentence to ruin others' fun. :)



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Reply #130 on: July 17, 2014, 05:35:54 pm
Exactly, I don't think that someone being airborne is a valid enough reason to engage with heavy air. You can use beagle to drive-by with, you can also use seasparrow, if that would be given to you, since that thing can get the job done without rocket rape.
If we could do it without the so called 'rocket rape' we would. But it is kind of hard to catch a plane that can go to the maximum height at the maximum speed that is possible, with a plane that goes half that speed and half the height.



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Reply #131 on: July 17, 2014, 05:49:42 pm
If we could do it without the so called 'rocket rape' we would. But it is kind of hard to catch a plane that can go to the maximum height at the maximum speed that is possible, with a plane that goes half that speed and half the height.
Hard? You are a whole airforce against a single plane... Slow down the rhl when someone is airborn so that you got enough time to teamwork.... Im not really one of the guys that are against hydras and hunters.


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Reply #132 on: July 17, 2014, 05:52:42 pm
Exactly, I don't think that someone being airborne is a valid enough reason to engage with heavy air. You can use beagle to drive-by with, you can also use seasparrow, if that would be given to you, since that thing can get the job done without rocket rape.

LOL ever tried to catch the Shamel in a Beagle ... its impossible !!

And that 'Whole Airforce' is actually often just one pilot with access!  In fact we only have 1 of each, unless you think we so good at it that we count as many more...

I AM looking into this and will be carrying out some investigation work to see what can be done to reduce the use.

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Reply #133 on: July 17, 2014, 06:13:21 pm
No, banned for blatantly leading a group of players through Pershing square whilst deathmatching an individual.
If someone is "hacking" then administration will deal with it by themselves.
Incorrect. A man who's 1 minute online shouldn't judge a complex situation(s) which lasted 1 hour.

Nope, you use your weapons and one line sentence to ruin others' fun. :)
I know that im a nightmare for people who are first attacking me and my family -without- a single sentence ;)



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Reply #134 on: July 17, 2014, 06:21:31 pm
Locked, point has been made..

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