We have to get the server back in line.

[eslams]

add up to date scripts using new samp features.

Also, since nobody's giving excuses about "copying other servers". I guess adding spike strips for SAPD Senior Officer + would be a good idea now.

Rank restriction is necessary. Such a tool will only be trouble with free cops.

"Spike Strips"
Good Idea (SUPPORTED)

[Manoni]

Bad idea. The last thing we need is another dozen of topics with people moaning about how the law enforcement gets too many advantages when it's about capturing/neutralizing suspects.

[TiMoN]

Listen to player ideas, or at least approve some that you seem fit.

Also get the advertisement team to do something.

[TheLegitHabibi]

Bad idea. The last thing we need is another dozen of topics with people moaning about how the law enforcement gets too many advantages when it's about capturing/neutralizing suspects.

We need to get rid of this attitude as well. Stop believing in the concept that cops and suspects have to be "equal". They're not 2 teams on a Team Death match. Cops are governments force to stop crime. They get a lot of advantages.

As an admin you should focus on explaining this to others. Tell forum moderators to deal with these topics and handle them.

By adding spike strips you can permanently remove the DB on sight rules. Cops should try to focus on spiking the guy. If after numerous attempts it fails a higher rank can grant permission to drive by. Or if the suspects have open end fire , the cop is permitted to drive by.

Such changes improve the roleplay aspect. This whole concept of not giving cops advantages is wrong. However to some extent I do agree that we don't need to make cops excessively powerful, which is easily neutralized by making sure cops don't db if they have spikes. If anybody breaks rules, we have a forum report on arpd available.

[Manoni]

I've never said that I think that cops and suspects must be equal, we are not into it, specially because the server is not only about criminal organizations and law enforcement groups.

This have been discussed several times with everyone at forums and in game, yet people seems to fail to understand that these things are not equitative as it would lack of roleplay sense. Everyone wants things to be easier no matter on what side you are, that is why the arguing never ends.

I'm not aware of all the SAPD rules and regulations as I'm not really part of them but I think that they might be interested in this.

[TheLegitHabibi]

I've never said that I think that cops and suspects must be equal, we are not into it, specially because the server is not only about criminal organizations and law enforcement groups.

This have been discussed several times with everyone at forums and in game, yet people seems to fail to understand that these things are not equitative as it would lack of roleplay sense. Everyone wants things to be easier no matter on what side you are, that is why the arguing never ends.

I'm not aware of all the SAPD rules and regulations as I'm not really part of them but I think that they might be interested in this.

I don't understand you at all. In your first post you clearly implied that cops should not get advantages over criminals. Now you say the exact opposite by saying what I said, that this server isn't just about cops and suspects.

Can you elaborate what you mean by "People seems to fail to understand that these things are not equitative as it would lack of roleplay sense." I don't understand what exactly you're trying to say here.

Your initial argument that cops need to be equal to suspects, obviously shouldn't be taken into consideration. Now that you agree that these two don't need to be equal, then what exactly is your argument against adding spike strips?

[Whiteman]

This isn't the right topic for those arguments, please stay on its purpose. All I want to add is, that there will be something epic coming up which will for sure, increase our players rate, even if its just for a day

[TheLegitHabibi]

This isn't the right topic for those arguments, please stay on its purpose.

We're discussing whether spike strips will help improve the server scripts or not. Which was the purpose of the topic. I believe we need to add such scripts, and this fine admin has opposite arguments which we are discussing.

Don't know what you're on about but this is as relevant to the topic as it can be.

[Whiteman]

We're discussing whether spike strips will help improve the server scripts or not. Which was the purpose of the topic. I believe we need to add such scripts, and this fine admin has opposite arguments which we are discussing.

Don't know what you're on about but this is as relevant to the topic as it can be.

Doesn't fit into my head how adding spikes can help to increase our players rate, when we even don't have sufficient amount of trained and organised officers who would use them. Using spikes requires a very good co-ordination and communication between the officers.

[TheLegitHabibi]

Doesn't fit into my head how adding spikes can help to increase our players rate, when we even don't have sufficient amount of trained and organised officers who would use them. Using spikes requires a very good co-ordination and communication between the officers.

Spike strips today. New vehicle scripts tomorrow. New suspections script next week.
And a complete overhaul to the RS5 to make the script more appealing, less confusing and use the latest SA:MP available scripts to make the server what it was in RS4. That in whole will increase our players rate.
Unfortunately if you're looking for 1 red button to press to make the player count rise, it doesn't exist.

[Whiteman]

The best advertisement to increase our players amount is to get your own friends paying on Argonath, set something up, start a group or join a group together. Make a business together, help eachother out and make plans, contact your friends and invite them to Argonath, make your contacts count!

We have enough people playing, if all of them would invite two friends of theirs, it'd be good enough as it'll evolve, no need to blame the scripts as the scripts are being fixed consistently and new features are being added, all we need is a little community support.

Lost all your properties and money? Show the community that you're capable of doing that again, you are a badass drug lord like you were in RS4, build your way up again. It's the perfect opportunity to raise amongst the crowd and prove yourself once more, it'll state that you really are the man who you said you were in RS4 and thus will give you respect. Maybe you just got lucky, get lucky again, these features offer us more RP possibilities then ever before, you just need to think of something which never has been done before and what could be done with these new features, put yourself on a quest - grab your friends alongside you.

[TheLegitHabibi]

We have enough people playing, if all of them would invite two friends of theirs, it'd be good enough as it'll evolve, no need to blame the scripts as the scripts are being fixed consistently and new features are being added, all we need is a little community support.

We really need to come out of this false concept that the scripts aren't the issue. Obviously RS5 has been the issue. It was released while it was still under development with bugs.
Why was there a 70-80% player drop between RS5 and RS4? What changed? It's so painfully obvious.
I'm being realistic here. If you're going to fix the issue, you need to understand what is causing the issue.

I know the scripts are being fixed and new features are being added. What we need to do is gather good ideas from the community and implement them into the existing script. So we can change the unappealing RS5 into something extraordinary like it was meant to be.

[Shorty.]

Ya all are complaining about RS5 before its even realesed, if you guys need more players, you should help in even make this server more interesting by creating new groups or something, or you can record a video on youtube about the server..

In my opinion RS5 is good,  we just need two or three from RS4 system.. dice back, profit of business back.

[TheLegitHabibi]

Ya all are complaining about RS5 before its even realesed, if you guys need more players, you should help in even make this server more interesting by creating new groups or something, or you can record a video on youtube about the server..

In my opinion RS5 is good,  we just need two or three from RS4 system.. dice back, profit of business back.

That's exactly what we're discussing. New stuff to bring to RS5 to make it better.
We need /dice. I was surprised why it ain't there. Ethan and I used to make different games with dice, and ya'll forgot the famous "2x" game argonath had. We need that.

[Hamza_Khan]

 dice back, profit of business back.

Yeah we really need business profit bug to be fixed !