Criminal / family group support

[Luke]

How about we all stop complaining about virtual money and grow up a bit? I thought we are here to role-play and enjoy, not make future salary for our kids.

After all its just a game, and I thought we was all friends. 

People be more worried about earning money in a video game then real life, but that's none of my business.

[Frank_Hawk]

The level of hostility towards players on this topic is beyond unacceptable. The leadership is here to provide strategic guidance and support where required, even if it is in exceptional circumstances where a business case is justified.

I will post a reply soon, but do not expect a friendly one.

[TiMoN]

Not really. The active groups are in-game working their way up, not on the forum begging for random things.

Most Active Groups This Month
SAA 6774 minutes
CIA 2945 minutes
Kolta 2772 minutes
Sforza 2346 minutes
RockStar 1338 minutes

Oh right, lemme show you how active they are:

SAA, 15 players who are either doing nothing in game or are inactive.
CIA, only active because of khm, who is doing admin stuff.
Kolta, dead, or simply name tags.
Sforza, please, when was the last time you saw one in game.
Rock star, most active rp group 2k14, it's an admin group, give a f**king break with this bullshit.

Such activity, much players, very groups, wow.

[KelviNC]

Last I heard this was a roleplay server, not an economy/money based server. What's the goal here because all I see is people wanting money when the actual server is based around roleplay.

What kind of a roleplay server? In my point of view, no one RP'es around the server. My first opinion, why don't we force a player to RP? Why there's no IC and OCC? It's a RP server, but no one is forced to RP. Good logic I see behind.

Oh well, then I guess I won't have to listen to nonsense from people that can't respect others within this community anymore.
We put in our time to try and help out yet the only thing people seem to care about is themselves and their virtual money on a roleplay game.

Okay. You posted a topic regarding a new script just to get compliments and ideas about it. You posted the topic before even you started to script it. Why? Script that thing and then post a topic before loading it into the game, instead of posting a topic so earlier.

[Luke]

Suggest quitting before you are ahead.

[Khm]

Oh right, lemme show you how active they are:
CIA, only active because of khm, who is doing admin stuff.

It's in that average since 4 months ago.

[Sandi]

Why are some of you guys so unthankfull :s

Its not all about money and shit..its about meeting new people and helping them around..

I bet there is at least 5-10 new players a day joining for the first time..PM them..help them..tell them what do to and what not to do..

Have fun instead of being unthankfull

[TiMoN]

It's in that average since 4 months ago.

I bet it's bugged or something, wow, what a surprise!

[Pingster]

Some people complain we don't listen to players, yet most of RS5 scripts come from the Idea Boards 

Which had such a wide range of ideas, that it's not difficult to make that claim while implementing whatever Gandalf wanted.


Anyway, it's silly to think it's a bad thing that people want money for guns for shootouts and chases and stuff, I mean, how else are cops going to make money, why else would you buy fast cars, why else would you play GTA? Lol..

Then those that just want and want without doing anything can rightfully piss off, you think we are going to give into pressure to issue money as a way of group support?  Players don't get to decide what support we issue for groups, should consider lucky we even give anything since so many don't deserve it.

With all due respect, people have been rightfully pissing off. Make a return of BSF then, at least for a period of time, so that people can at least get their capital started up, while being able to have a RP job that they want, I mean, trucking or firemen, that's a huge variety of jobs isn't it..

My point being, people had large capitals before and worked a lot for that, they don't want to grind the same thing over and over again for days to have some fun, I'd be playing Destiny if I did, not SA:MP. I used to play SA:MP to have fun, not to work my ass off after I've been working my ass off all day already. When is the last time you spent an entire day trucking, Cyril? Rusty? Devin? No? So you don't actually have any idea how idiotically boring it is?

[Cyril]

Anyway, it's silly to think it's a bad thing that people want money for guns for shootouts and chases and stuff, I mean, how else are cops going to make money, why else would you buy fast cars, why else would you play GTA? Lol..

It's a roleplay server, not some kind of cops and robbers...
You don't need guns nor fast cars. They are only tools.

When is the last time you spent an entire day trucking, Cyril? Rusty? Devin? No? So you don't actually have any idea how idiotically boring it is?

Never, because while you play, we are working for you to be able to play with the best conditions possible.
If you think sitting the whole day doing babysitting is not boring.. And while you earn money, we don't.

[Devin]

What kind of a roleplay server? In my point of view, no one RP'es around the server. My first opinion, why don't we force a player to RP? Why there's no IC and OCC? It's a RP server, but no one is forced to RP. Good logic I see behind.

No one roleplays? Okay fine that's your opinion. Why don't we force roleplay? Because we are not some strict roleplay server where you get banned for not saying the right words in order or get admin jailed for a period of hours not minutes.
There's more roleplay on Argonath coming from new players than many old players, where does the problem lie now?

Okay. You posted a topic regarding a new script just to get compliments and ideas about it. You posted the topic before even you started to script it. Why? Script that thing and then post a topic before loading it into the game, instead of posting a topic so earlier.

Oh I posted a topic about new scripts? No I did not. I am not a scripter.
I posted a topic about something new to be added? No I did not, as I said above I am not a scripter.

If you would take time to think, the topics were posted before the scripts were released to give players an idea of possible upcoming enhancements and additions to the server.
To let players know of what's going on and what to expect. If they weren't posted before the release then players would complain that no work is being done as no one told them.
When someone tells them in advance they then moan that it hasn't arrived yet.

There's no pleasing some of you, I start to wonder how some were raised by their parents in cases like these.

Acting like right spoilt brats, never happy until someone gets pissed off or gives up.

[TiMoN]

It's a roleplay server, not some kind of cops and robbers...
You don't need guns nor fast cars. They are only tools.

Name one roleplay scenario that is encouraged by the server. None, because you aren't forcing roleplay nor supporting it.

Take medic roleplay, none does it anymore because no one goes on medic duty. I saw someone offering 4k for a medic to rp, no one cared.

[Devin]

When is the last time you spent an entire day trucking, Cyril? Rusty? Devin? No? So you don't actually have any idea how idiotically boring it is?

When is the last time you spent an entire day looking into logs, dealing with players queries, assisting others, ensuring the server is clean of people attempting to cheat and all at the same time trying to manage an administration team? No? So get lost with your fucking judgement of my team already.

[Cyril]

Name one roleplay scenario that is encouraged by the server. None, because you aren't forcing roleplay nor supporting it.

Take medic roleplay, none does it anymore because no one goes on medic duty. I saw someone offering 4k for a medic to rp, no one cared.

From what I saw, if we were to enforce proper roleplay, we would have to ban a huge amount of players for not being able to roleplay properly.

[KelviNC]

My point being, people had large capitals before and worked a lot for that, they don't want to grind the same thing over and over again for days to have some fun, I'd be playing Destiny if I did, not SA:MP. I used to play SA:MP to have fun, not to work my ass off after I've been working my ass off all day already. When is the last time you spent an entire day trucking, Cyril? Rusty? Devin? No? So you don't actually have any idea how idiotically boring it is?

 

No one roleplays? Okay fine that's your opinion. Why don't we force roleplay? Because we are not some strict roleplay server where you get banned for not saying the right words in order or get admin jailed for a period of hours not minutes.
There's more roleplay on Argonath coming from new players than many old players, where does the problem lie now?

Hah. No RP = DM. People who don't RP, leads them to DM. Why do new players DM so offensively? Let's bring up a solution for this. It would be great if a new player joins and a small intro about the server is given to him.

I'm not against anyone of you, I just want to suggest some of my ideas.