Difference between being an Admin,and being a Cop.(Forbidding criminal roleplay)

[Leon.]

SAPD should never intervene in place of an administrator. This is simply wrong.

Seen it before many times. Cop goes around DMing with duty weapons, simply receives a copban.

[Gnb_22]

Seen it before many times. Cop goes around DMing with duty weapons, simply receives a copban.

True story. Apparently a blue name gives you immunity from admin punishment. All you get is a cop ban..

[Manas]

True story. Apparently a blue name gives you immunity from admin punishment. All you get is a cop ban..

Can't say total immunity but it acts as a shield to a good extent

[Rusty]

True story. Apparently a blue name gives you immunity from admin punishment. All you get is a cop ban..

Copban from a Admin is a punishment, just the same as a warning or a few minutes in admin jail.  That unhappy about them receiving one then file a report on whoever issued it.  Not every deathmatching case requires someone to be temporarily banned or fully banned.

[Stivi]

Copban from a Admin is a punishment, just the same as a warning or a few minutes in admin jail.  That unhappy about them receiving one then file a report on whoever issued it.  Not every deathmatching case requires someone to be temporarily banned or fully banned.

Nope? Copban is not an admin punishment. But DM is DM and shouldn't lead to a copban for cops and a-punishment for the rest.

For cops it should be a copban for misusing duty weapons and an a-punishment if necessary.

[Devin]

Staff should punish those breaking the server rules by administrative means regardless of their in-game "job". Those breaking SAPD regulation are dealt with by copbans.

[Stivi]

Staff should punish those breaking the server rules by administrative means regardless of their in-game "job". Those breaking SAPD regulation are dealt with by copbans.

Yeah, in theory.

[Maxy]

To bring back the topic to what it was originally about.

The base of the issue is this. Criminals want to roleplay to make money, because the point of a criminal organization existing is to earn money.

Citizens don't want to roleplay robberies/extortion/kidnapping because the reason they are trucking/mechanic or whatever is because they want to make money, and they don't want to give it up to other people.

Cops want to make money from being police officers, want to get into gun fights and want to chase criminals, because those are the fun parts of being a cop. So they try to /su whenever they see the need to, without wasting much time.

The real issue here is that, of all of the "roleplay" to earn money, the criminal way is the most unpleasant.

Because it is unpleasant, the citizens will report the criminals instead of roleplaying and waiting for the police, the admins will try and deal with the issue when it is really a police issue. Since many admins are police officers or ex police officers, they naturally see criminals as enemies because they almost always are in criminal/police roleplay. So they immediately take admin action when it is not warranted.

The other issue is that no matter what the actual rules are, the highest ranking admin online will create the rules to suit his situation, whether or not they exist. This means that if you did something to anger the highest ranking admin online, he will not think objectively in 80 percent of cases, and will punish you based on non-rules that he made up.


The simple solution? Make drug scripts profitable, create a weapon selling script that we can actually make profit from, make more ways for criminals to make money, make it profitable for us to be regular businessmen and we won't have to resort to robbing truck drivers and extorting people so much. But as it stands now, that is the only way we can further our business through criminal means.

Because as you have created the server now, every criminal group is a trucking company who in their free time like to beat people up.

[Everett]

@Maxy Love ya for saying that. People will do two things when they play this game, the things they like doing and the things they're paid for, even in virtual currency. Cops get paid for doing their job though, yet criminals don't.

RS4's drug system although a little simple, it rewarded good roleplayers (people are more likely to deal with the good roleplayer, more deals=more cash). It also enforced hierarchy in groups, with drugs going up the ranks, and money going down. I think it makes sense for a leader of a respective group to be the richest guy, yet the richest people in argo are those who spend most hours trucking.

[eymas]

Cops get paid for doing their job though, yet criminals don't.

Criminals do get money when jailed.

[Exterminator]

Criminals do get money when jailed.

Sorry for interrupting but since when is a criminal's job to be in jail? 

[Everett]

Skipping the part where you implied that criminals need to co-operate with police for a living, it would take 11.5 days straight in jail to become a millionaire that way.

The $200 if you /gu is nice, but it has nothing on the $3000 you loose if you don't type /gu fast enough.

[Maxy]

 

Criminals do get money when jailed.

Okay, then feel free to start a Jail RP group who's sole purpose is to commit crimes and get caught and then go to jail and earn 150 dollars per jailing. That sounds like fun, thanks for suggesting it.

Maybe next time you can keep the sarcastic nonsense to yourself in a serious discussion.  Attitude like that is the reason that discussions like this always turn bad.

[Huntsman]

Enough with your attitude towards those you dislike or don't agree with. Thanks.

Yeah, cause apperantly he's allowed to do that against me because he has more stars near his name. Hipocracy at its finest.

[Kessu]

Yeah, cause apperantly he's allowed to do that against me because he has more stars near his name. Hipocracy at its finest.

If you actually read my post, I haven't insulted nor provoked you once, where as you tell me to, what you assume is dissatisfaction towards you, to shove it up my ass.

Don't think you're important enough to me for me to like or dislike you. (yes, you see this was a slight provocation, but still nothing major. And for the record, I took no offense from your post(s))