Roleplay factions

[Que]

Server should be more strict about RP, but it wont happen in SA:MP, Maybe in V:MP.. but I doubt it will as the voting showed people enjoying these type of gameplay.

Well if you look at the statistics, there are almost the same amount wanting strict RP or harder roleplay level on it than having it based on the same usual level. Only that "push" can bring a lot to V:MP, I believe. It'll be a total mistake to keep going the same route.

[Huntsman]

Tell me, when the last time cops really roleplayed a Kidnap situation, they RP until their numbers become much more than kidnappers, cops always moan about that kidnappers kidnapped someone then asked for the money,
Now tell me when the last time SAPD actually payed them the money, because every time the situation couldn't go in their way, sometimes kidnappers have the advantage.
Situation goes out of their hands  = lets storm in, is same as situation goes in their way, still you would see them storming in,   they will shoot the ass out of you  until you /gu, I mean no matter where the situation goes, SAPD also incites the DM fest.

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For one, as I mentioned already (which you didnt notice obviously because you didnt read or either cant read), ARPD are pretty much TOLD by the server owners themselves to NOT PAY the kidnappers, NO MATTER WHAT. That is exactly what is destroying the RP, because we are always led to the same situation - either completely ignore the scene, or prepare for a gunfight. We cannot pay the kidnappers. As Gandalf said - ARPD does not negotiate with terrorists. It is not that I agree with this...

[AK47]

As Gandalf said - ARPD does not negotiate with terrorists. It is not that I agree with this...

which is quite said, i remember back in RS4 when NBA did a huge bank robbery/kidnap and we pulled it off and actually got paid $2,000,000 ARD for the good roleplay we had.

[Hamza_Khan]

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For one, as I mentioned already (which you didnt notice obviously because you didnt read or either cant read), ARPD are pretty much TOLD by the server owners themselves to NOT PAY the kidnappers, NO MATTER WHAT. That is exactly what is destroying the RP, because we are always led to the same situation - either completely ignore the scene, or prepare for a gunfight. We cannot pay the kidnappers. As Gandalf said - ARPD does not negotiate with terrorists. It is not that I agree with this...

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I'm not asking who put that rule or who didn't, it is absolutely wrong and how it is destroying the RP? Hows it is ending it in a DM fest if cops starts to pay the money, then only a retarded criminal will end doing DM, sensible RPer surely won't, and it is people like you who got the biased opinions against criminals, which we have seen in the past, So please think from both sides.

[Rusty]

Tell me, when the last time cops really roleplayed a Kidnap situation, they RP until their numbers become much more than kidnappers, cops always moan about that kidnappers kidnapped someone then asked for the money,
Now tell me when the last time SAPD actually payed them the money, because every time the situation couldn't go in their way, sometimes kidnappers have the advantage.
Situation goes out of their hands  = lets storm in, is same as situation goes in their way, still you would see them storming in,   they will shoot the ass out of you  until you /gu, I mean no matter where the situation goes, SAPD also incites the DM fest.

Maybe you should try your hand at something else than kidnapping people all the time. 
SAPD/FBI aren't going to pay cash since they ain't supposed to and to be frank why are you even calling the law to pay random money?  Shouldn't you avoid alerting them and instead ask the victims family?  Mafia's supposed to avoid attention from the law not gain it on purpose. 

which is quite said, i remember back in RS4 when NBA did a huge bank robbery/kidnap and we pulled it off and actually got paid $2,000,000 ARD for the good roleplay we had.

Time when SAPD was actually a well rounded Police force now it's just a bunch of random's running round with a few old timers left running it trying to keep it on two legs.

Topic was about role-play factions not kidnapping and how cops don't pay.  So let's just get back to that eh.

[Arslan]

which is quite said, i remember back in RS4 when NBA did a huge bank robbery/kidnap and we pulled it off and actually got paid $2,000,000 ARD for the good roleplay we had.

Even if cops did want to pay you, they have no access to government funds nor do they receive any government funds.  No one is going to pay you 500k or whatever the amount may be from their own money which they spent hours trucking to get. Though this may not be my view, this is the view most general Argo players will hold.

As for asking money for someone you kidnapped, you don't kidnap someone and demand money from the law. You kidnap someone and ask ransom for there release from whoever would like to see back, alive and healthy or whoever has an interest in them, maybe a employer etc - which I can understand will never happen because the person you call will probably bring his army with combats in hand. 

[Mr. Goobii]

A change is required, rules and behavior must change. 

[jovanca]

Exactly what arslan said although i think that well roleplayed bank roberies should have a cash reward for those who escspe (funded by server)

[Que]

Maybe you should try your hand at something else than kidnapping people all the time. 
SAPD/FBI aren't going to pay cash since they ain't supposed to and to be frank why are you even calling the law to pay random money?  Shouldn't you avoid alerting them and instead ask the victims family?  Mafia's supposed to avoid attention from the law not gain it on purpose. 

This.

If you do expect some proper roleplay with, honestly speaking, pretty lame kidnap scenarios - at least do them properly.
I mean, you can keep branching the subject that the police destroys the "roleplay" by shooting, but that's what you attended to in the first place, lol.

You know it. I know it. The police knows it.
What did you expect? 1 million and an army filled with pink cars and nice strippers pleasuring your day?

[Hamza_Khan]

Maybe you should try your hand at something else than kidnapping people all the time. 
SAPD/FBI aren't going to pay cash since they ain't supposed to and to be frank why are you even calling the law to pay random money?  Shouldn't you avoid alerting them and instead ask the victims family?  Mafia's supposed to avoid attention from the law not gain it on purpose. 

Well if you are asking to me, then I haven't done a single cop kidnapping RP and its really been a while,cause its usually ends in a DM fest,  I'm just saying that there shouldn't be this kind of rule, IMO. As every situation can't go in Cops favour, sometimes criminals has the advantage, if everything going fine from criminal perspective then why there is problem paying money to them? even you can do that RPly, real criminals won't mind that since it is all RP and imaginary, but cops nowadays doesn't negotiate all they do is just rush in and blast criminals head off.

Indeed we are going off topic, lets just stick to the topic.

[Trey_Johnson]

Indeed we are going off topic, lets just stick to the topic.

Then why did you even reply..? >"Indeed we're going off topic"> I'll have the last word and then no one will respond.

Even if cops did want to pay you, they have no access to government funds nor do they receive any government funds.  No one is going to pay you 500k or whatever the amount may be from their own money which they spent hours trucking to get. Though this may not be my view, this is the view most general Argo players will hold.

As for asking money for someone you kidnapped, you don't kidnap someone and demand money from the law. You kidnap someone and ask ransom for there release from whoever would like to see back, alive and healthy or whoever has an interest in them, maybe a employer etc - which I can understand will never happen because the person you call will probably bring his army with combats in hand. 

For once I agree with you

[Manoni]

The main problem is that the roleplay in SA:MP is no longer what it's supossed to be and I think that if the players are not willing to do a change by their own then the server and the HQ should do it.

[Hamza_Khan]

Then why did you even reply..? >"Indeed we're going off topic"> I'll have the last word and then no one will respond.

I just gave an answer, and we are already finished, no need for you to become an arsonist.

[Jack Rosso]

Time when SAPD was actually a well rounded Police force now it's just a bunch of random's running round with a few old timers left running it trying to keep it on two legs.

Haha this, so true  Funny thing is there's still people who are denying that.

[Trey_Johnson]

The main problem is that the roleplay in SA:MP is no longer what it's supossed to be and I think that if the players are not willing to do a change by their own then the server and the HQ should do it.

Exactly, the 'lead by showing an example' is not working, rules have to be more strict.