Roleplay factions

[Pandalink]

You guys really need to work out what you want the server to be. Do you want it to be a light RPG server with cops & robbers and freeroam elements like it was when it was most popular, or a super serious no-fun-allowed RLRP server? The two aren't compatible, since RLRP guys tend to whine like kids when they get killed and freeroamers find strict roleplay rules boring and restrictive beyond explanation.

Before you decide, it is worth noting that the whole RLRP thing is already absolutely covered by a server with far more resources and regularly populated by far more miserably serious roleplayers than this one.

[Trey_Johnson]

You guys really need to work out what you want the server to be. Do you want it to be a light RPG server with cops & robbers and freeroam elements like it was when it was most popular, or a super serious no-fun-allowed RLRP server? The two aren't compatible, since RLRP guys tend to whine like kids when they get killed and freeroamers find strict roleplay rules boring and restrictive beyond explanation.

Before you decide, it is worth noting that the whole RLRP thing is already absolutely covered by a server with far more resources and regularly populated by far more miserably serious roleplayers than this one.

It doesnt have to be so strict, and the stunt server is suitable for freeroaming cops & robbers, as it is now.
There's alot in between how the server looks now, and how a strict RP server looks like. Argo can find it's spot in there.

[jovanca]

I want a rokrolay server. I dont expect heavy rp or rlrp as u said panda, nor do i want that. I just want more rp and less free roam. Medium sounds good.

[beLTa]

rules have to be more strict.

Do you think this will help?

[Trey_Johnson]

Do you think this will help?

I do, it's a start. Not saying that it's a full solution, but it's a definite start.

[Que]

You guys really need to work out what you want the server to be. Do you want it to be a light RPG server with cops & robbers and freeroam elements like it was when it was most popular, or a super serious no-fun-allowed RLRP server? The two aren't compatible, since RLRP guys tend to whine like kids when they get killed and freeroamers find strict roleplay rules boring and restrictive beyond explanation.

Before you decide, it is worth noting that the whole RLRP thing is already absolutely covered by a server with far more resources and regularly populated by far more miserably serious roleplayers than this one.

I was expecting a post like this one. It seems to me like you guys just want to have it this way just to hide your own death match parties.
Just because you roleplay quite realistic doesn't mean you don't have fun? I mean, what kind of weird argument is that? It's all about creativity.

I don't think we need strict rules, just strict enforcement.

Well, obviously the way it has been for the last years hasn't really boosted up the community. That's the truth. I don't think strict rules will be the key to everything, but I'm pretty sure there should be a lot more focus on the roleplay than it is right now, and has been previous years.

Anyone being around my groups knows that it's pretty darn fun to roleplay when we got the flow, but unfortunately it keeps getting interrupted by either a death match fest or just a random dude driving a burning car into us and four of us dies and spawns in the ocean close to Mordor and everyone logs off. #argostyle

[Manoni]

For both cases /report and move on. Let the administration deal with it.

That does not recovers the time wasted due to the interruption of the roleplay. Besides that, it's quite annoying that such things happens, it just makes you lose the feel to continue with it.

[Que]

For both cases /report and move on. Let the administration deal with it.

As said, better and stricter rules would've avoided it in the first place. You see, it super boring to restart something that is already started and you get caught in someone else's screwing around. You even seek for space sometimes just to quit get interrupted by players who only wants to troll around or start a big mess.

But yeah, let's move on and the roleplay will return to the server eventually like the stats are showing. Or we could discuss the issues like proper adults and maybe develop the community to something better.

[Chase]

Most "mafias" are not acting like true mafias at the moment. Get suspected, crowd somewhere and slaughter cops? That's the LAST thing a true mafia would want to do. That's acting like a terrorist cell, not a mafia. The LAST thing a mafia wants is police attention, which is why they try to find ways to cover up their assassinations. For example, Al Capone would attach cement bricks to a person's legs and throw them into a river. That way there is little to no trace of evidence of a body.

The ONLY time a mafia would do something like slaughter cops is as a 'last sand' type of measure. If they know they are going to be going to jail or be killed, they may put up a last stand, but that would theoretically be the end of the mafia's life.

Mafias are supposed to be more secretive. Yes I know it's hard to do that with the orange dot system, but trust me, development team is working on ideas to fix that.

The other issue is there is no civilian gap between cop and criminals. Civilians being defined as folks who just wanna make money legally.

I expect that to hopefully increase once profit system and the stock market is implemented (trust me, we'll get there).

[Allison]

Mafias are supposed to be more secretive. Yes I know it's hard to do that with the orange dot system, but trust me, development team is working on ideas to fix that.

The other issue is there is no civilian gap between cop and criminals. Civilians being defined as folks who just wanna make money legally.

Glad to hear the orange dot system is going to be fixed. Currently it's just 'hunt the orange dot and kill it' on the cop side, and I'm not entirely sure what some criminals get out of it.

There are a few people who do roleplay civilians. I can't stand either side of the system, cop or criminal, too long so I'm usually roleplaying some redneck out of Palomino Creek, which relates to my real life anyway, so it works out good. I try to get people to roleplay the civilian lifestyle alongside me, and for those I've gotten, it seems to be working just fine.

Aside from that, it's been the same nonsense for years. Mafia / gang created, finds way to use roleplay as an excuse to kill cops in random shootouts, dies or escapes. It's boring, and it's why I stay in the county. Something needs to be done about it, but I don't really know who will try to start to change the system today.

[Pizza4_Games]

Most "mafias" are not acting like true mafias at the moment. Get suspected, crowd somewhere and slaughter cops? That's the LAST thing a true mafia would want to do. That's acting like a terrorist cell, not a mafia. The LAST thing a mafia wants is police attention, which is why they try to find ways to cover up their assassinations. For example, Al Capone would attach cement bricks to a person's legs and throw them into a river. That way there is little to no trace of evidence of a body.

The ONLY time a mafia would do something like slaughter cops is as a 'last sand' type of measure. If they know they are going to be going to jail or be killed, they may put up a last stand, but that would theoretically be the end of the mafia's life.

Mafias are supposed to be more secretive. Yes I know it's hard to do that with the orange dot system, but trust me, development team is working on ideas to fix that.

The other issue is there is no civilian gap between cop and criminals. Civilians being defined as folks who just wanna make money legally.

I expect that to hopefully increase once profit system and the stock market is implemented (trust me, we'll get there).

did you know that al capone din't do any work at all? but just send his members to do it
and not every mafia wants police's attention because police pisses them off all the time or get involved in stuff they aren't even apart of...

[Zorex116]

did you know that al capone din't do any work at all? but just send his members to do it
and not every mafia wants police's attention because police pisses them off all the time or get involved in stuff they aren't even apart of...

It's just an example

[Pizza4_Games]

It's just an example

aah ok
sorry then

[CharlieKasper]

Remove anyone who doesn't want to roleplay when approached for roleplay. Not just advise them to "If you don't want to roleplay, /q."

[Que]

Remove anyone who doesn't want to roleplay when approached for roleplay. Not just advise them to "If you don't want to roleplay, /q."

Fistbump, bro.


We've been through a lot on Argonath.. if it wasn't the vicious lag, it was something else.    Most of the good roleplay veterans probably moved on since I'm feeling quite lonely in my "generation". It's sad, but that's what happens when things are being obscured. The quantity of them wont even return even if I try to convince them to, and I think the biggest issues is that death match fests, "I don't want to roleplay"-roleplayers and the general "I can do whatever I want"-attitude is allowed and has never really reached the spotlight nor been taken cared of.

If Argonath really wants to rebuild and make this final push, I'm pretty sure such things has to be changed. I don't think changed scripts and other pretty precious things will count at all. I think you have to do this the hard way. Straighten up the goals of the community, the guidance and the rules and set something to look forward to. If the goal is only to keep Argonath alive and continue the same storyless path, then the roleplay and its quality never returns.

But yeah, I don't know how many times I've said this but it seems like no one is listening.