This is the problem.

[Plam_Knight]

First this topic should be just deleted altogether, since it serves no purpose and its a place for people that've never been ingame to lay out some salt and argue over stupid things that are not even close to relevant to the server.

Second, the plans that are made by the HQ team ahead are pretty solid and all we need to do is await for them, do our best ingame and share our opinions, when the HQ and dev team ask for our opinions.

Third, people as inactive as Gandalf should really go back to their inactivity, rather then spreading toxicity around and only slowing our further progress. As well people like Que are only showing how loyal they are to this community, to keep going for so long after taking so much shit from people like Gandalf, who've done nothing in general to assist the server to move further and get over its down period. As well talking about leading by example, some pretty poor example is being shown by Gandalf, looking at the way he treats respected veterans and fellow HQ members.

[Pizza4_Games]

Word.

Time to step down Gandalf, let Teddy and others take over the decision making process. They have great plans and are ready to make them a reality, they know what the community needs, and they are listening to the people of Argonath, which is exceptional in the history of Argonath itself. Only thing keeping them back is you, sadly.

Gandalf still owns it and he makes his decision or not :/, why would gandalf step down and leave his community that he made?

[Pandalink]

If I'm not mistaken, Gandalf still pays for this server, and all of the supporting infrastructure as well. Even if I am, he was intrumental in founding the community that has since lasted like 9 fucking years. So, it's possible that you shouldn't all be acting like immature shitters and literally insulting him on his own forum. If you disagree with him, that's fine, but there are better ways to voice your opinion than by insulting the owner of the server and sucking up to the egos of the new SAMP leaders. I even see vets coming out with all this shit about how much they seem to hate Gandalf and want him to go away forever or something, forgetting any of the past and not thinking about the financial future of the server at all.

I mean damn

[Bruce.]

Gandalf still owns it and he makes his decision or not :/, why would gandalf step down and leave his community that he made?

Nobody told him to leave, we're suggesting him what's the best for the community.... you should really read what is being said here.

[AK47]

Gandalf still owns it and he makes his decision or not :/, why would gandalf step down and leave his community that he made?

maybe you should read the topic before replying

[Pizza4_Games]

Nobody told him to leave, we're suggesting him what's the best for the community.... you should really read what is being said here.

All i understand what the fuck is going on is moaning and flaming and a bunch of non sense.... :/

[.Matthew.]

If I'm not mistaken, Gandalf still pays for this server, and all of the supporting infrastructure as well. Even if I am, he was intrumental in founding the community that has since lasted like 9 f**cking years. So, it's possible that you shouldn't all be acting like immature shitters and literally insulting him on his own forum. If you disagree with him, that's fine, but there are better ways to voice your opinion than by insulting the owner of the server and sucking up to the egos of the new SAMP leaders. I even see vets coming out with all this shit about how much they seem to hate Gandalf and want him to go away forever or something, forgetting any of the past and not thinking about the financial future of the server at all.

I mean damn

Agree with this.
You all should know that this community is property of the owners, and they can do whatever they want on it and with it.
So instead of verbally assaulting them at their own property, you should at least show some respect.
If you went this verbal elsewhere, you wouldn't be coming back so soon.

It is true indeed that they're not active and don't know the real situation of the server and how it is to PLAY it.
And that's why I also agree that Teddy and managers should be in lead of decision making for the server.
They are at least aware of what we want, how we want and what's needed to push us forward.

[Bas]

I honestly don't get why people think they can tell him what to do, It's his community and he can do what he thinks is right. You aren't entitled to any changes or scripts at all. Thanks to him you're able to play for free and no strings attached, he could just aswell pull the plug and all your efforts are gone. So instead of bashing on him all the time perhaps you could say thank you once in a while since I'm pretty sure none of you would even give a single penny to keep the community up.

[Stivi]

I agree Gandalf has been very inactive and I like the ideas current development team has, but telling him to fuck off isn't the way to go. That is, if you care for this community.

All i understand what the fuck is going on is moaning and flaming and a bunch of non sense.... :/

Then you obviously aren't mentally stable.

[Bruce.]

All i understand what the fuck is going on is moaning and flaming and a bunch of non sense.... :/

You seem to not understand shit what is going on here....

[Pizza4_Games]

If I'm not mistaken, Gandalf still pays for this server, and all of the supporting infrastructure as well. Even if I am, he was intrumental in founding the community that has since lasted like 9 f**cking years. So, it's possible that you shouldn't all be acting like immature shitters and literally insulting him on his own forum. If you disagree with him, that's fine, but there are better ways to voice your opinion than by insulting the owner of the server and sucking up to the egos of the new SAMP leaders. I even see vets coming out with all this shit about how much they seem to hate Gandalf and want him to go away forever or something, forgetting any of the past and not thinking about the financial future of the server at all.

I mean damn

i agree...

[Jack Rosso]

If I'm not mistaken, Gandalf still pays for this server, and all of the supporting infrastructure as well. Even if I am, he was intrumental in founding the community that has since lasted like 9 f**cking years. So, it's possible that you shouldn't all be acting like immature shitters and literally insulting him on his own forum. If you disagree with him, that's fine, but there are better ways to voice your opinion than by insulting the owner of the server and sucking up to the egos of the new SAMP leaders. I even see vets coming out with all this shit about how much they seem to hate Gandalf and want him to go away forever or something, forgetting any of the past and not thinking about the financial future of the server at all.

I mean damn

I agree, but as I said earlier in the topic:

I think you need to change your forum rank to ''Argonath Sugar Daddy'' instead of owner, it would fit your current role better.

Gandalf hasn't fulfilled his ownership position actively at all within the last few years besides paying for the server. At the same time, HQ members were left to wait for him for months and months to make a simple decision before they could move on and implent a regulation or a new script.. which is ridicilous. Above that, Gandalf hasn't been around for the past couple of years actively yet appears to think that the vision he once created would still be suitable to Argonath anno 2015. Which it is not.

On top of everything, our beloved owner shows up in the topic to flag other people's imput and constructive ideas as rants without contributing anything productive himself besides continueing the discussion on the topic with his ideology from the MTA:VC era.

[Pizza4_Games]

You seem to not understand shit what is going on here....

Yup

[Jack Rosso]

Yup

If you think its all a bunch of nonsense and you have no idea of whats going on, please refrain from getting yourself involved in the discussion.

[Marcel]

Those who insult and rant at Gandalf here should consider packing their bags. Show some goddamn respect..