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Reply #105 on: August 29, 2015, 05:03:20 pm
jsssk. off topic post deleted



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Reply #106 on: August 29, 2015, 05:04:44 pm
Off topic post removed.
Please start following forum rules


Wtf? What's wrong with that post?

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Reply #107 on: August 29, 2015, 05:12:17 pm
So, we have allot of posts stating what could be the problem, so what would you give as a good sollution, because this offtopic and flaming is just pure bullshit.




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Reply #108 on: August 29, 2015, 05:13:50 pm
I left dont really like the new cops/criminal updates
+ no freecops  :(



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Reply #109 on: August 29, 2015, 05:20:36 pm
Just lock it already

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Reply #111 on: August 29, 2015, 05:22:29 pm

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Reply #112 on: August 29, 2015, 05:30:02 pm
typical

Jay if you don't have anything supportive to say stay out of this topic or receive a forum warn, this provoking is not tolerated, you are allowed to voice your opinion but you are not in any way doing that now.




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Reply #113 on: August 29, 2015, 06:16:18 pm
So, we have allot of posts stating what could be the problem, so what would you give as a good sollution, because this offtopic and flaming is just pure bullshit.
What's Teddy doing right now is a good beginning.
I agree as well but I do plan on fixing this. As I've recently become a manager I have a lot of admins and moderators in my crosshairs. Mistakes happen, but we're humans and this is how we learn, by making mistakes and being corrected when they occur. We cannot learn if we do not know we're doing wrong. Do note you will not always see those corrections, but do expect more apologizes from admins/moderators who make mistakes.
The only thing staff team has to do is to talk in a more civilised way and appreciate others' contribution and everything will be perfect.

Now it's for us the players, we have to create a good environment for the new players, we have to camp on where new players spawn (preferred to create a team for it). We have to adopt these new players (not use them for your own group to increase the members in it -.-) and make them join the flow of how we play on the server, make him register on all the forums that we have. Explain him each job, how does it work, is it money maker? Role-play maker? And the way how to join it. (not focus on how to do drugs and use him for your advantage to make yourself rich..).
We also as players have to talk in a civilised way, once someone crosses the line he should expect action from the staff team in anytime (of course the staff team also has to talk in a civilized way). Attitude and the respect to each-other is what makes NEW players stick with us. We have to stop the sabotage on each other specially from the veterans to each other. If there's a problem you talk with the guy who created that problem if there is no solution then just take evidences and report.
Remember we the players who make the server, not the scripts. We also should remember that staff team are also players and not slaves (volunteers which also do what they volunteered for properly.) And most importantly, mistakes always happen and we have to correct them and not cover them up.

If anyone needs anything about how to approach a new player or seeking for leadership advice you can drop me a PM. Cheers.



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Reply #114 on: August 29, 2015, 06:19:31 pm
welcome to argonath.

Pretty much agree with everything Frank Hawk has said so far.

Frank is basing his opinion off of false information but unfortunately people don't know that before they follow like sheep.



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Reply #115 on: August 29, 2015, 06:26:51 pm
Jay if you don't have anything supportive to say stay out of this topic or receive a forum warn, this provoking is not tolerated, you are allowed to voice your opinion but you are not in any way doing that now.
already said, but ignored. I can't see how ''*facepalm*'' is provoking.

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Reply #116 on: August 29, 2015, 06:32:28 pm
already said, but ignored. I can't see how ''*facepalm*'' is provoking.
It isn't provoking. The reason stated was "off topic" if you could read. And that's exactly what you are continuing.

I suggest you listen to the warnings before something worse happens...



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Reply #117 on: August 29, 2015, 06:38:44 pm
Frank is basing his opinion off of false information but unfortunately people don't know that before they follow like sheep.
Might be true - However I do still agree with the majority of points he brought up.



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Reply #118 on: August 29, 2015, 06:42:52 pm
Well, everyone should start spreading the word of Argonath to their friends or relatives, they should advertise Argonath on websites that have boards for server advertisements, and advertise Argonath on social networks, if there is any other way to spread the word of Argonath to the world, then do it. Yes, people are aging and lose interest in games, but we should still invite others to join, new players or younger new players. We need to spread the word of Argonath to the world.

There are 2 options for Argonath's popularity and population to get back:

1. Wait for a miracle to happen so Argonath's popularity and population increases.

2. Work hard to spread the word of Argonath to others.



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Reply #119 on: August 29, 2015, 06:50:12 pm
Frank is basing his opinion off of false information but unfortunately people don't know that before they follow like sheep.
Which part of his post is false? You like picking on details, so I'm guessing its the same about Frank's post, but in general most of his post is what happen, unless you can give us arguments to counter it?



And the part made by Cyril that RS5  was being developed by the wishes and ideas of the players isn't true for the most important scripts.

The previous scripting team, was egoistic and stubborn in their suicide scripts solution, and the HQ  was sad to say, acting the same way. From all the things that Teddy and his team made, the fact they actually consult and talk to players who have experience and knowledge before deciding how a script will work, is the biggest change.


Me and a few others mobilized a lot of people to return back to Argonath, after 2-3 months of rs5 being released. At that time the player count was an average 10-15, and it didn't go up much. Alot of veterans who were leaders of the longlasting factions were called back, even tho most of the players were still into getting over the fact the rs4 is gone, and that they are back on 5k, yet they all had a will to return and start their groups again, and as you know, on one veteran leader(Like me, Frank Hawk, Acika, Que, Pablo, etc), you get minimum 10 more players online. They all went down and returned, and we pushed the average player count to 35-50 in a matter of one week. But they and their members couldn't do anything to earn some basic cash, except fire duty.

This is what happen after that

reconstructed skype conversion :

Cofiliano: We really need to put prices up of the drug scripts and fast, the current ones are not only not profitable, yet you go in big minus no matter what price you get lol.
Scripter1: We wont do that, this system is perfect.

Cofiliano talks about the same to Scripter2

Scripter2 puts prices up to be at least somehow profitable and goes inactive again.

Scripter1 goes full retard and lowers the prices back, even lower then they used to be

Cofiliano: -"What's the point of ordering heroin for 1,5k, getting 25grams, and then being able to sell it to a maximum of 30pg, which means in best case scenario, you'll be in minus -750$?
And its almost the same about weed, you gotta collect/harvest 8 hours without stopping, to be able earn 10k, and that's if you're lucky enough to be able to sell directly the the drug market, and if you're lucky enough to have a price above in that moment on the drug market above 40pg, while the price for my group individually didn't went over 35 for the last 4 months?"

Scripter1: "You're not suppose to earn from drugs, you're suppose to use drugs as value to exchange cash into, and via verse. Like currency exchange, or gold-cash exchange. You can talk to HQ if you have a problem with it"

Cofiliano copies the conversation with Scripter1 to CL and says:  "You're not suppose to earn from drugs", what the actually fuck? What else should criminals do? Drug script is the foundation of keeping criminal activity up, if you fuck that up, we're just gonna have more and more players leaving, while we work our asses in getting old people back, fix this asap, or we're fucked"

CL: "We want a realistic economy"

Cofiliano: "What's more realistic then economy being financed by illegal drug money? That's how global economy works"

CL: "If we do that, everyone gonna become millionaires"

Cofiliano: "You dont need to make it spawn big amount of cash out of no where, just make it the most profitable scripted job, so people would be motivated to work more into the drug business then fireduty, hence more interaction, hence more roleplay etc"

CL: "You're not suppose to earn from drugs, just use it as exchange value. We made this decision and we wont change it"

Cofiliano starts hitting his desk with his head a couple of times.

Argo playercount went from 35-50 back to 10-15 max.

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