'Changes' that change nothing.

[Hevar.]

Do you represent the large group which recently left the server?

He thinks he is Nelson Mandela haha

[Manoni]

I played on other RP server for one day and left it - met shitloads of Argonath veterans there tho. Peace.

So? We are aware that several people left to join another community for any reason they had, I don't know what is your point in that.

[Tiny]

So? We are aware that several people left to join another community for any reason they had, I don't know what is your point in that.

It's a reply to this.

thanks for your representation of your Argonath to LSRP fan club.

[diddeh]

Let's not forget RS4 had 150+ players and less RP than RS5.

Let's not forget it's not RS4 anymore

[Robin#]

Well, a lot people tried to change the world and they failed (for bad or for good), for example, What about hitler, he tried to change the world to his own, but he failed... What about these people who tried to fly to the moon but they dead, they tried to change the world by discovering some information...

The same thing "MAY" happen to Argonath with these changes...

I am just trying to support Tiny's idea.

[Tiny]

You all thought Que was your savior when he came up with his own ideas, yet they were much closer to 'strict-rp' than mine. Just because someone is more famous or more recognized by the community you take him seriously, yet they are not contributing anymore. The community is missing some people who would really make a difference, and we're about to lose more if you don't start thinking properly. Do you know why veterans left after all these years? Because they grew up, and they are looking for somewhere better to play in their free time than spend time here talking to a wall.

[Salmonella]

You all thought Que was your savior when he came up with his own ideas, yet they were much closer to 'strict-rp' than mine. Just because someone is more famous or more recognized by the community you take him seriously, yet they are not contributing anymore. The community is missing some people who would really make a difference, and we're about to lose more if you don't start thinking properly. Do you know why veterans left after all these years? Because they grew up, and they are looking for somewhere better to play in their free time than spend time here talking to a wall.

Sorry, but what did you actually suggest? Here you just said ''let's be a bit stricter on RP''. That's hardly a plan but I already told you what I think of that.

[Robin#]

It's all about the time. Don't worry, player count will raise after a period of time.

Maybe other players are getting grow and they may don't have time to play a game like Argonath for example, and they have to done their home works, or may they have some IRL work with their parents, or else.

[Tiny]

Sorry, but what did you actually suggest? Here you just said ''let's be a bit stricter on RP''. That's hardly a plan but I already told you what I think of that.

That's exactly the suggestion, and by getting stricter on RP I don't mean to add OOC/IC, remove /p and all. I'm speaking about rules that will enforce people to roleplay things they usually skip. Similar to the police system changes.

[Robin#]

To be honest with ya, I don't play Argonath these days cause it's RP scripts are boring, and there is a lot games I play better than it as for my opinion.

[Que]

Tiny's point - which is a valid and very important one - is that we need to decide what Argonath is. For the last year(s), the community has lost its identity and it's quite important, like I wrote in the other topic, that players/admins/managers sit down and talk to each other.

Leaders from like Corleone, Gvardia, All PD-subgroups, 18th, Soprano and so on together with veterans, community managers and prominent admins.

If people do not think alike about the main purpose of the community, you really need to get to a point where you all do. That's the importance of the changes, so they are strictly towards the same goal. What is ongoing is that there are split opinions of what that goalis, what changes to be made, how to act and how to contribute.

Do not place people into categories. Work it out like a team.

[Tiny]

See? If someone wants to get the point, he gets it.

[Robin#]

See? If someone wants to get the point, he gets it.

Since Teddy got the lead this game is boring... If you know what I mean... If you didn't get the point don't post.

[Ivan_Dzeba]

I seen a post, someone said that we need to look to the future and to the new players. Well.

SAMP is getting less more popular and losing players.

And every new player that joins is either a hacker or a cheater or a rulebreaker. And if he isn't any of that, he just stays for a while and leaves.

We should try to make the scripts etc... that old players loved. The developers are doing a great job on the development, no doubt, I respect them. But, is it possible that we make the scripts that will bring back old players and groups. If that is not possible, are there any plans to bring back the old players and groups.

[Salmonella]

Still there are no concrete suggestions. You can be abstract and vague about ''being strict'' so nobody can actually counter it, but I interpreted it as ''let's start forcing RP again'' and that's just wrong because it's unargonathian