Flaws with the elections

[Huntsman]

Hi, I just wanted to point out a few flaws with the on going elections that I have observed since my return. I am aware that they are pretty much concluded but I think that those should be taken into consideration after the term of the current mayors ends.

First of all, the financial census for those who want to vote is absolutely ridiculous. I've been playing here for almost five years now and the entire time I played as a cop pretty much non stop, hence eliminating my need for a house. Now, just because I did not need a house, I was excluded from the election despite being an active part of the community for five years. I can understand something as a census of having a passport, but a house? Really?

The second is the unregulated out of character bribery. All I needed is to hop in game yesterday and I saw a looooooooot of votes buying going on. While I can understand vote purchasing that would happen in roleplay realms, those votes that are bought outside of roleplay realms (via PM and such) should simply be a rulebreak. Because for one, law enforcement cannot use non roleplay evidence to proove bribery, and second - it's completely idiotic and takes out the fun of competition.

[Marcel]

The current election has been concluded except for the counting of the votes. You can rest assured that lots of lessons have been learned so far which will lead to improved elections in the future.

[Huntsman]

The current election has been concluded except for the counting of the votes. You can rest assured that lots of lessons have been learned so far which will lead to improved elections in the future.

Hope so.

[Teddy]

We have already taken suggestions to prevent some of the issues that have been raised. While at the same-time we want to encourage the fullest of RP, we won't discourage corruption since corruption is the foundation of politics. What we will do is make said corruption illegal and ensure it directly affects the run for positions.

[TiMoN]

We have already taken suggestions to prevent some of the issues that have been raised. While at the same-time we want to encourage the fullest of RP, we won't discourage corruption since corruption is the foundation of politics. What we will do is make said corruption illegal and ensure it directly affects the run for positions.

How long does a mayor last in office?

[Devin]

3 months and then the next elections will take place; and there are no limitations on how many times a mayor can run.

[Rei]

My opinion for this is that : mayor elections in "argonath" was completly useless since the common reason of having it which is
"to have fun" was not applied and it only create some hot hate spots around.

[MrTony]

These elections didn't feel like elections at all. There needs to be put some serious work to improve this in the future. Even tho Lawrence had his party for a long time, in the end all of that was kind of broken down because it was a retarded race of who's gonna get most votes in 2 days. Elections should be about fun, Roleplay and measures that ensure that it stays within those realms, not hatred, stress and last minute acts of desperation.


I'm sure that, like Marcel put it, the HQ will work on improving the elections in the future, but it'd be cool if in 2 months time we all come here and discuss exactly how this can be achieved and the community as a whole can offer their opinions on it.


Topics that have to be touched are:
Citizens without residence
Rules for who can or can't vote for a district (that other Election-Tourism topic)
How to maintain the elections fun and roleplay oriented
Votes should be anonymous

[Dennis.]

3 months and then the next elections will take place;

Every 3 months 1M for a mayor to take part in the elections?

[Sawyer]

I, on the other hand, considering all of my time in front of a PC screen all of this time but ultimately the last week, find this extremely unfair and outrageous.

[Salmonella]

extremely unfair and outrageous.

What part of it?

[eymas]

The convenience of this all is, because we've done this for the first time, we can learn from all these flaws and mistakes. I bet the community itself can agree given the ridiculous behavior that was shown by everyone, even the admin team had to endure the pressure sometimes.

Overall though, if I look back at it all, I can say that it has been an interesting experience 
Here's to 2016 giving us a new year and a fresh start to aspiring mayors (or sellouts)* out there! 
And of course, good luck to the current ones.

*Feel free to remove this little smudge.

[Cofiliano]

Having it every 3 months is pointless. Argonath is constantly gonna be in a campaign then, which loses the point. As soon as one campaign is over, a new one will start. Plus those other elections that are coming, we dont need politics spamming us all day everyday, and turning our playing into irritating and annoying spam of /ads, pms, SMS, and /p arguing.

Minimum once per year is more then enough. Since they're not the only elections happening anyway.

Not to mention that Mayors wont even have enough time to provide concrete results in their city. They'll have a month-two maximum, and then they'll have to again waste all their time, energy and everything else in campaigns.

[Sawyer]

What part of it?

Having it every 3 months is pointless. Argonath is constantly gonna be in a campaign then, which loses the point. As soon as one campaign is over, a new one will start. Plus those other elections that are coming, we dont need politics spamming us all day everyday, and turning our playing into irritating and annoying spam of /ads, pms, SMS, and /p arguing.

Minimum once per year is more then enough. Since they're not the only elections happening anyway.

[Salmonella]

The convenience of this all is, because we've done this for the first time, we can learn from all these flaws and mistakes. I bet the community itself can agree given the ridiculous behavior that was shown by everyone, even the admin team had to endure the pressure sometimes.

Overall though, if I look back at it all, I can say that it has been an interesting experience 
Here's to 2016 giving us a new year and a fresh start to aspiring mayors (or sellouts)* out there! 
And of course, good luck to the current ones.

*Feel free to remove this little smudge.

The system should've been more thought-through and things were rushed a lot, but in the end nobody can blame HQ for not acting as it had already started.

Three months is something I've been hearing for weeks now, and it seems like more than enough to me for a mayor term. On top of that, not everyone maintains activity in Argonath constantly. Mayors should be active, so a year is way too much because inevitably you'll end up with an inactive mayor.

As for having to be a house owner in that state for at least 3 months, I couldn't agree more. Elections should've been for real citizens and in the future this should be the case.