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Reply #15 on: November 09, 2015, 05:53:38 pm
Three months is something I've been hearing for weeks now, and it seems like more than enough to me for a mayor term. On top of that, not everyone maintains activity in Argonath constantly. Mayors should be active, so a year is way too much because inevitably you'll end up with an inactive mayor.
What can you possible do in 3 months? Provide concrete results in your city and learning from your mistakes or constantly working on a campaign? This is hopeless.

Maybe not per year since I agree that we all have priorities and real life comes first, but at least around 6-7 months.





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Reply #16 on: November 09, 2015, 05:54:26 pm
and it seems like more than enough to me for a mayor term.
You're illusional, I understand it favors you in this moment, but once you become Mayor of LV you'll understand that nothing can be done in 2-3 months, even with your full activity. I speak this from my experience of developing San Fierro over the years. Specially since you gonna waste one of those three months for campaign and election.

On the other hand this would be a huge issue for everyone:
Having it every 3 months is pointless. Argonath is constantly gonna be in a campaign then, which loses the point. As soon as one campaign is over, a new one will start. Plus those other elections that are coming, we dont need politics spamming us all day everyday, and turning our playing into irritating and annoying spam of /ads, pms, SMS, and /p arguing.


I don't know, perhaps 2 times per year would satisfied everyone, give enough time for Mayors to show their result, and players not being annoyed non stop with some stupid elections, politics, and what not.

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Reply #17 on: November 09, 2015, 05:57:20 pm
3 months really seems more than enough to me. I've said this before the elections even started so that is not an argument. I can see how it would favor you to have more as well, but 3 months is an incredible amount of time, at least to me. Perhaps some have a different perception of time where years go by like days, but 3 months is like an eternity to me.

On top of that, the earlier we can have an improved election, the better.



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Reply #18 on: November 09, 2015, 05:58:13 pm
Make the election every November and April, that would be enough.
 3 Months it's not that much to be honest. One mayor handles the summer time, the other one handles the Winter time  :D

I believe Argonath will be back as soon as the exams are over.
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Reply #19 on: November 09, 2015, 06:00:25 pm
Again Salmonella, It doesn't matter if its favor me or you, or anyone else, nor how much time you, or anyone else thinks its enough for Mayor. If someone has no issues with elections in his town, its Us.
But the biggest problem of the 3 months period is something I already pointed out:

Having it every 3 months is pointless. Argonath is constantly gonna be in a campaign then, which loses the point. As soon as one campaign is over, a new one will start. Plus those other elections that are coming, we dont need politics spamming us all day everyday, and turning our playing into irritating and annoying constant spam of /ads, pms, SMS, and /p arguing.

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Reply #20 on: November 09, 2015, 06:01:29 pm
Again Salmonella, It doesn't matter if its favor me or you, or anyone else, nor how much time you, or anyone else thinks its enough for Mayor. If someone has no issues with elections in his town, its Us.
But the biggest problem of the 3 months period is something I already pointed out:
Yeah people always tend to overlook what's not very fortunate, including myself.  :D





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Reply #21 on: November 09, 2015, 06:04:06 pm
If anything what you pointed out is in favor of good elections. It will show who is really dedicated to their political party and who is just in it to win.

I don't think there'll be much of an /ad war until the last few weeks.



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Reply #22 on: November 09, 2015, 06:09:29 pm
Having it every 3 months is pointless. Argonath is constantly gonna be in a campaign then, which loses the point. As soon as one campaign is over, a new one will start. Plus those other elections that are coming, we dont need politics spamming us all day everyday, and turning our playing into irritating and annoying spam of /ads, pms, SMS, and /p arguing.

Minimum once per year is more then enough. Since they're not the only elections happening anyway.

Not to mention that Mayors wont even have enough time to provide concrete results in their city. They'll have a month-two maximum, and then they'll have to again waste all their time, energy and everything else in campaigns.
You're right. But one correcton: Minimum once per six months is more then enough.

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Reply #23 on: November 09, 2015, 06:10:29 pm
I know that a big number of players who stayed neutral, and didn't wanted to vote, were constantly irritated and annoyed last 10 days with these elections. They couldn't even focus on their usual playing because of it. Some of them went even inactive until this shit is over.

Politicians and political parties shouldn't be selfish to completely destroy someone elses roleplay and playing. And that's what you'll get if we set it for every 3 months. Argonath Political RolePlay Server.
You're right. But one correcton: Minimum once per six months is more then enough.

I don't know, perhaps 2 times per year would satisfied everyone, give enough time for Mayors to show their result, and players not being annoyed non stop with some stupid elections, politics, and what not.

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Reply #24 on: November 09, 2015, 06:10:58 pm
What can you possible do in 3 months? Provide concrete results in your city and learning from your mistakes or constantly working on a campaign? This is hopeless.

Means you will have no time to fuck around but instead you'll need to focus on getting shit done.




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Reply #25 on: November 09, 2015, 06:14:00 pm
Means you will have no time to fuck around but instead you'll need to focus on getting shit done.
I have a real life.





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Reply #26 on: November 09, 2015, 06:15:59 pm
Means you will have no time to fuck around but instead you'll need to focus on getting shit done.


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Reply #27 on: November 09, 2015, 06:17:28 pm
I have a real life.
Which is why a mayor shouldn't stay in office for a whole year either. Not everybody can be available 24/7/365, as Dennis said, every six months is great.



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Reply #28 on: November 09, 2015, 06:17:38 pm
I know that a big number of players who stayed neutral, and didn't wanted to vote, were constantly irritated and annoyed last 10 days with these elections. They couldn't even focus on their usual playing because of it. Some of them went even inactive until this shit is over.

Except the playercount was at a steady 90 yesterday and at a steady 30 today.

It's true though that there was irritation amongst some players because of the /ad wars. Perhaps another measure should be taken to prevent this, but the duration of the mayors term has nothing to do with it, because like you pointed out, it's only for like 10 days or so.

Once again, 3 months seems more than enough to me. Otherwise you're not even giving the loser a chance to recuperate and try again, because after 6 months the majority of formations tend to collapse one way or another due to the huge amount of time passing.

I have a real life.

Perfect example why 3 months is a good time. People have real lifes and will not be able to maintain the activity a mayor should be maintaining as much as possible. Please, don't neglect this even more. I am already fearing this will happen to the mayor role, if it goes from 3 to more months, it is downright inevitable.



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Reply #29 on: November 09, 2015, 06:18:55 pm
what about 4 months and all parts will be happy.


 


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