Happy New Year

[Marcell]

Don't get the wrong idea. The server isn't dead. I've been playing today since 12.

Yeah, 7 players compared to SAMP's 130 (not going to count how much out of that number were regulars). I'm not saying more always equals better, but the server always had its best moments when there were like 20+ people (though it was more or less rare), the golden era. And until something changes in the VCMP community itself things will stay this stale way. SAMP, no matter how much I dislike it as a client and gameplay-wise, has a constant supply of players. One leaves, another one takes his place. But VCMP's situation? I won't bring back the past but you resorted to trusting relatively a newbie on something over regulars' words just to keep the newbie playing even though he took a big shit on the server afterwards. The era where kicking hackers instead of banning them immediatelly in hope they would play afterwards without hacks has to end lol. But there's no way for it to end if the 'supply' of players who can comprehend the server itself is non existent. I don't get it really, why is VCMP so dead compared to SAMP while they're both GTA games? don't get me started on the GTA 3 multiplayer which had like 3 people online across all servers daily and that was considered lots of players. Is it cause of game related factors such as not having a big map, worse graphics etc and so on? all of those can be addressed with modifications. Or perhaps it's the fact that Argo is pretty much the only RP server for VCMP while SAMP has thousands of them, thus increasing the potential player supply. I don't know, but it's depressing. If you feel fine playing for years with 10 people out of whom 5-6 are regulars that is fine with me, but personally I think after 7 freaking years (or was it 8?) the server should have 20 players a day minimum, composed out of newcomers too and not just veterans who've been here since 2010.

[Marcus]

Happy New Year guys!

Let's just hope we can increase our activity on the server, because that'd be really cool! I kind of miss the good ol' days..

[Klaus]

Yeah, 7 players compared to SAMP's 130

SA:MP is more popular, this has always been and will never change. You make some good points but I won't go any further into this as it just isn't the place and completely off topic.

the server always had its best moments

People said the same thing in 2008, then in 2009, and so on. Every year is as you call it a "golden era" for someone. Fact is some players get bored and leave but new players always replace them. This has been common practice for a long time.

[Rapture]

Those "good points" are the reason why I don't bother to play anymore.

[Klaus]

ok, tchau

[Rapture]

its not like you saw me ingame past august lol

[Marcell]

SA:MP is more popular, this has always been and will never change. You make some good points but I won't go any further into this as it just isn't the place and completely off topic.

yeah so what? u wanna just accept the fact it's like some kind of national holiday when there's 15+ players? like I said I don't expect VCMP to have even half of the players that SAMP does, but I think with all the problems being gone from 0.3 era, the player count should be at least 2x higher which it is not, in fact it seems to be lower.

Every year is as you call it a "golden era" for someone. Fact is some players get bored and leave but new players always replace them. This has been common practice for a long time.

Nobody will call the last 2 years a golden era, unless they're not sane or something. The only real burst of resurrection was when some sampers came and played for a few weeks, effectively raising the player count from 8 to 25 for quite a bit. Rest was the same as always, old farts doing their same thing and random newbies hacking / freeroaming / striving to type a word in english. New players always replace them? I wouldn't say so considering what happened overtime to VCPD once people in charge quit playing

[Rapture]

There has, however, been a lack of regular players over the past couple of months. I'd like to know why and any kind of feedback is welcomed by Management.

I told you my reasons and I just love the response of the "M"anagement; "ok bye". Bright times ahead, yeah?

[Klaus]

If the reason for you not playing anymore is the fact that VC:MP is not as popular as SA:MP then it is out of Managements hands.

[Kessu]

If someone does not want to play, we will not ask nor beg them to do so. You say you don't want to play? We say goodbye. The server will still welcome you later to play, if you so wish.

[Cofiliano]

Hi guys, happy new year,

I don't wanna jump into your VCMP debate because I don't have such a big experience with it as you guys, tho I personally think that VCMP chance is into SAMP players.

Argonath SAMP has been recovering last couple of months, and I think its still early for such a project, but once SAMP player count is fully recovered, I think you should considered opening doors for SA:MP players more wider, through projects, marketing, logistic, opportunities and such.

Most of SAMP players don't even know we have a VCMP server, and I could personally get a lot of them, mostly criminal organizations, to come and open divisions in VCMP,  and then do a constant VC-SA roleplay, like Gvardia did few months ago, but that requires providing basic opportunities to them that they're used to have on SAMP such as ownership of cars/house/business being available more easier then it is now on VC, and making a stable plan about it that wont end up in everyone having trillions of dollars.

Again, I wrote all of this, under the assumptions that you would be interested in something like this, and that you're ready for a dialogue when it comes to compromises that will keep VC player count at around 15-30 average.

[SugarD]

Everyone desires to see players in Argo before joining hence the server keeps on being empty.

I think this pretty much nailed it. I've been checking the server repeatedly at different times of the day, however due to time zone differences and when I'm normally awake, I keep checking when everyone else is offline, hence why I haven't been going in-game lately despite the desire to. To be fair, not much can be done about this outside of organizing multiple people to come online together every day, and trying to get the playerbase to sustain itself again. (There have even been times where SA:MP went through this problem, despite how popular of a game mod it is). It is pretty common for servers to experience this issue, which has an unfortunate cascading effect.

...then do a constant VC-SA roleplay...

This is actually a very good idea, in my honest opinion. It hasn't happened very often on a large scale in the past across multiple servers, but the few times it has, it was extremely successful. It would be awesome to see such a thing happening again, and as said could very well bring a lot of attention to VC:MP from other locations. It would also be nice to see the overall community interacting on a global scale again.

[Klaus]

lack of neutral, non-government or non-criminal jobs

Scripters are tackling this issue as we speak.

[Pizza4_Games]

others can't be arsed to play again/anymore.

I had so much fun back in VCMP before I fell into this mess of fuckture, so I decided to fuck everybody over and disappear

[Rapture]

I had so much fun back in VCMP before I fell into this mess of fuckture, so I decided to fuck everybody over and disappear

The cesspit of events known as August was just proof to me that no one really gives a fuck about regulars where our points were just largely ignored