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Addition to the radar dots suggestion

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Reply #105 on: January 10, 2016, 12:21:47 pm
So what about removing blips but changing area to be a little more detailed but not like it was, so a collection of areas would count as Eastern Los Santos, Western Los Santos etc. Split the areas into portions of grouped locations.



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Reply #106 on: January 10, 2016, 12:23:55 pm
I disagree that it will not do any harm.
New players will not be able to find anyone, as they are unable to see where others are. That is likely to make them leave out of boredom in a few minutes.
Actually catching a wanted criminal will become possible only on the wish of the criminal, as it becomes very easy to hide. That means cops will not chase wanted criminals but instead annoy more people who are just driving on the road and happen to pass. In return copbaiting will be frequent as wanted criminals get bored of not being chased.
There will be more ambushing, where people sneak up on others for a mass DM style attack. If cops show up at all, people will just run.
Instead of interacting with other people will be more exclusive in playing with others they know only, thus making the server less welcome for new arrivals.

I also see the advantages of being able to approach others with stealth in a way which is currently impossible when dealing with those who are hostile towards interacting with others. That is not a failure of the blips, but of the willingness to allow roleplay.

First of all, currently, we do have blips on our maps but still the new players ask us about the location. How are the blips beneficial then?

Secondly, I don't know if it is possible or not. If the suspect thing is the problem like that the PD will face a problem to chase the suspects; How about when a players gets suspected, only his blip will appear over the map? xD
IDK if it is even possible.



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Reply #107 on: January 10, 2016, 12:28:48 pm
So what about removing blips but changing area to be a little more detailed but not like it was, so a collection of areas would count as Eastern Los Santos, Western Los Santos etc. Split the areas into portions of grouped locations.
That will not help. Read back and you know why.

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Reply #108 on: January 10, 2016, 12:30:13 pm
First of all, currently, we do have blips on our maps but still the new players ask us about the location. How are the blips beneficial then?

Secondly, I don't know if it is possible or not. If the suspect thing is the problem like that the PD will face a problem to chase the suspects; How about when a players gets suspected, only his blip will appear over the map? xD
IDK if it is even possible.
It is possible, but people have been fighting for years to get rid of their blip becoming orange when wanted.  I highly doubt they would take this step back.

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Reply #109 on: January 10, 2016, 12:43:00 pm
It is possible, but people have been fighting for years to get rid of their blip becoming orange when wanted.  I highly doubt they would take this step back.

Not orange, probably white only.



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Reply #110 on: January 10, 2016, 12:44:31 pm
It is possible, but people have been fighting for years to get rid of their blip becoming orange when wanted.  I highly doubt they would take this step back.

Only the suspects would be highlighted with the blips, ofc.



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Reply #111 on: January 10, 2016, 12:53:48 pm
Can we at-least remove the ability for non cops to see a dark blue blip?

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Reply #112 on: January 10, 2016, 12:58:45 pm
Only the suspects would be highlighted with the blips, ofc.

He means that people did fight for same color dots for criminals so it would be harder to see the difference. What you propose now would make it rather easy again to distinguish criminals from the civilians. Which defeats the whole idea why suspect dots were made white.


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Reply #113 on: January 10, 2016, 12:59:46 pm
Can we at-least remove the ability for non cops to see a dark blue blip?
That would be useless. If you see a large group light blue dots approaching, you wouldn't probably think they are all freecops, right?

For normal RP it's not needed, you can RP with a freecop just as good as an officer.

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Reply #114 on: January 10, 2016, 01:07:32 pm
So what about removing blips but changing area to be a little more detailed but not like it was, so a collection of areas would count as Eastern Los Santos, Western Los Santos etc. Split the areas into portions of grouped locations.
Good idea @Devin



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Reply #115 on: January 10, 2016, 01:16:30 pm
I don't see what the issue is here. If you want to roleplay being hidden, it isn't hard to type it out in an emote command for the other players to interact with. Just use your imaginations and have fun with the game. If you want to crouch beside a pile of trash in an alley and RP hiding behind it, let the others know with your text. If you want to pretend you are a shape-shifting magician who poofed into someone's backyard a block away, go for it. You are only limited to your imaginations and what you are willing to do, (aside from breaking the rules, obviously). If they fail to play along, that is their fault. Likewise, some of these scenarios being ruined by non-RP'ing people can be justified as ruining a roleplay, which is also against the rules, and can be reported to admins. It doesn't have to get insanely complicated and lead to a massive eight page argument that goes no where.



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Reply #116 on: January 10, 2016, 01:23:42 pm
Likewise, some of these scenarios being ruined by non-RP'ing people can be justified as ruining a roleplay, which is also against the rules, and can be reported to admins. It doesn't have to get insanely complicated and lead to a massive eight page argument that goes no where.

which is why the metagaming rule was suggested, because admins dont deal with them RP ruiners, they let them go because is no rule about it



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Reply #117 on: January 10, 2016, 01:23:46 pm
Not orange, probably white only.

Paint it orange white or blue, it won't matter if only suspects blips are shown.



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Reply #118 on: January 10, 2016, 01:36:35 pm
Your suggestion sounds interesting, however I am not sure it is possible.
Its possible, and its the perfect solution from all the suggestions so far, that will satisfy everyone.

Lets say that blips disappear in a block radius. New players will see people at GS9 on minimap, and even tho the blips disappear once they come closer to GS9, those people they saw on the minimap will still be there.

On the other hand, in roleplays, when you want to hide yourself, you can easily do that, until you're out of the block radius, which is more then enough for you to run away, or stalk people  without them seeing you.

@Devin, I kinda like the current area way more, even tho its a pain in the ass when you're tracking someone down, still think we should stick to it.

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Reply #119 on: January 10, 2016, 01:38:00 pm
which is why the metagaming rule was suggested, because admins dont deal with them RP ruiners, they let them go because is no rule about it
The only people who ruin RP are the ones who start crying if things do not go their way.

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