Addition to the radar dots suggestion

[Dizzy.]

I just would like to add that scriptwise a lot is impossible to reach. The function to limit the blip range seems to be bugged, so it is either on or off. Ideas like the one from Cofi are also impossible due to the name tag being also invisible when getting close. Besides, all options that do not involve simply turning it on or off, are met with serious performance penalties due to the amount of checks that have to be done. Hence most ideas are sadly not feasible options at the moment.

[Gandalf]

Its possible, and its the perfect solution from all the suggestions so far, that will satisfy everyone.

Lets say that blips dissapear in a block radius. New players will see people at GS9 on minimap, and even tho the blips dissapear once they come closer to GS9, those people they saw on the minimap will still be there.

On the other hand, in roleplays, when you want to hide yourself, you can easily do that, until you're out of the block radius, which is more then enough for you to run away, or stalk people  withouth them seeing you.

If the scripters can do this, I am not against trying this out, though I would like the area to be relatively small as it does not solve the issue of impossible chases.
I actually have an idea regarding chasing. As you may be aware, in real life cops can find the location of a person by their phone. Which means that I suggest the possibility for cops to do a GPS trace for anyone who has phone or CB switched on. That will also lower the problems regarding 'our of rp'calls for help.

[Deni1997]

The only people who ruin RP are the ones who start crying if things do not go their way.

@Gandalf to be honest, some cops, SOME, ruin RP a lot, I'm not gonna say who it is, I've witnessed everything, civilians and criminals need some space man, they need space.. If someone sees bunch of blips on the map OFC they will go check it out, when I was a cop I also wanted to have shootouts, I was also a lets say hunter.. Hunting for well known guys who are in mafias, gangs.. I knew that hey will shoot, that's why I want this.. They need space, they need to be able to roleplay in PEACE, not to be interupted every single minute. I know that you are not for this, but atleast think about it.

[AK47]

No point guys, it's lost, we're stuck with how it is now.

[Cofiliano]

If the scripters can do this, I am not against trying this out, though I would like the area to be relatively small as it does not solve the issue of impossible chases.
I actually have an idea regarding chasing. As you may be aware, in real life cops can find the location of a person by their phone. Which means that I suggest the possibility for cops to do a GPS trace for anyone who has phone or CB switched on. That will also lower the problems regarding 'our of rp'calls for help.

Well Mikro says its bugged atm, and would required lots of testing, maybe scripters find the solution to the problem in the future.

About your second idea, that's all nice, and I would support it, but in real life, cops track people after a lot of investigations, and most of the time they fail tracking someone with his phone, because criminals use pre-paid cards, and one time use cell phones, so they don't have a way of tracing them. Same goes to cb, they would actually have to trace the exact radio frequently being used, in order for them to be able to trace the person with the radio.

This takes a lot of time, and most of them ends up as dead end, so anything close to that idea, would need to be restricted, first by needing a lot of time to pass before cops can actually attempt tracking, and second, the criminals could outsmart them, the same way they do it in real life, buy buying new phone, or changing radio stations before cops finds it.

So for some high profile suspects(like someone being suspected for over an hour and not for some minor crimes such as avoiding traffic stops), yeah, but with conditions that I posted.

[Mikro]

due to the name tag being also invisible when getting close.

I might have to rectify myself as this indeed might be possible. Didn't test it though. However this does mean some performance might be lost. No idea how much impact it will actually have as it needs to calculate distance from each player to all other players constantly outside of plugins like streamers which are actually meant for such calculations.

[psyron]

The only people who ruin RP are the ones who start crying if things do not go their way.

ironically there are also some players who would just continue the roleplay and deal with the situation in hand. but for how long? you take a beating once, you dont take it twice.. anyways thanks for the advice

[Gandalf]

Well Mikro says its bugged atm, and would required lots of testing, maybe scripters find the solution to the problem in the future.

About your second idea, that's all nice, and I would support it, but in real life, cops track people after a lot of investigations, and most of the time they fail tracking someone with his phone, because criminals use pre-paid cards, and one time use cell phones, so they don't have a way of tracing them. Same goes to cb, they would actually have to trace the exact radio frequently being used, in order for them to be able to trace the person with the radio.

This takes a lot of time, and most of them ends up as dead end, so anything close to that idea, would need to be restricted, first by needing a lot of time to pass before cops can actually attempt tracking, and second, the criminals could outsmart them, the same way they do it in real life, buy buying new phone, or changing radio stations before cops finds it.

So for some high profile suspects(like someone being suspected for over an hour and not for some minor crimes such as avoiding traffic stops), yeah, but with conditions that I posted.

I am aware oof how it works in real life, and also that it is really not as complicated as you make it seem. Pre-paid cards are useless in real life as the phone is traced and not the card. A disposable phone works only if no other is carried.
The reason I am suggesting this is to allow cops to trace people that are wanted without having to put a dozen of cops in to every chase.
Chasing on visual alone is not feasible.

[Mark]

The only people who ruin RP are the ones who start crying if things do not go their way.

>guy is tied and sorrounded by 3 people in a dark alley
>two of them grab him, making sure he won't run
>cop sees multiple blips on the map so he drives as fast possible there
>guy sees the cop and instead of attempt to resist he runs towards the cop
>guy shouts at cops what those three were doing to him completely ignoring the attempts by the three guys to drag him
>cop calls for backup on radio
>the whole PD arrives and in matter of a minute you are sorrounded, you got no other choice so you decide to give up

At end the guy is magically safe but he did ignore the roleplay from the three guys who tied him up, he ruined their roleplay. You try to explain him what he did wrong but he decides to ignore or insult you. Of course the three guys are pissed off because everyone does the same thing.
This happens in almost every scenario, even if you are hanging out with your friends, i'm not saying it is a bad thing that someone actually is looking for roleplay but at least make sure not to ruin it.
Perhaps we could try to reduce the range to something like /s.

[FARQ3X]

>guy is tied and sorrounded by 3 people in a dark alley
>two of them grab him, making sure he won't run
>cop sees multiple blips on the map so he drives as fast possible there
>guy sees the cop and instead of attempt to resist he runs towards the cop
>guy shouts at cops what those three were doing to him completely ignoring the attempts by the three guys to drag him
>cop calls for backup on radio
>the whole PD arrives and in matter of a minute you are sorrounded, you got no other choice so you decide to give up

At end the guy is magically safe but he did ignore the roleplay from the three guys who tied him up, he ruined their roleplay. You try to explain him what he did wrong but he decides to ignore or insult you. Of course the three guys are pissed off because everyone does the same thing.
This happens in almost every scenario, even if you are hanging out with your friends, i'm not saying it is a bad thing that someone actually is looking for roleplay but at least make sure not to ruin it.
Perhaps we could try to reduce the range to something like /s.

[Gandalf]

@Gandalf to be honest, some cops, SOME, ruin RP a lot, I'm not gonna say who it is, I've witnessed everything, civilians and criminals need some space man, they need space.. If someone sees bunch of blips on the map OFC they will go check it out, when I was a cop I also wanted to have shootouts, I was also a lets say hunter.. Hunting for well known guys who are in mafias, gangs.. I knew that hey will shoot, that's why I want this.. They need space, they need to be able to roleplay in PEACE, not to be interupted every single minute. I know that you are not for this, but atleast think about it.

Do not get wanted, do not react hostile and cops will not have any reason to act, meaning you have all the space you need.
You have rights as citizen which means cops can not stop you without a valid reason, nor can they arrive to intimidate a group of citizens.
If you want space, be sure nobody in your group is wanted, weapons are hidden and no threats are made. Then kindly request the officers to move along and report for harrassment if they do not comply.

Those who are cops need to understand that they can not randomly stop every player they see for no reason at all, or barge in when they see a gathering of possible criminals who are not doing anything illegal they can witness.
Cops can not stop you just to check documents, they need a valid reason like speeding or endangering traffic. If they want to make a genetal check of documents, they need to set up a checkpoint, not randomly stop everyone they meet.

Everyone needs to think over their role and their motivation.
A criminal wants to earn from illegal activities, but without getting caught. Getting wanted is actually a losing situation he wishes to avoid.
A citizen wants to lead a life without constantly getting robbed or harrassed by cops.
A cop wants to protect citizens (not annoy them) and solve crime by stopping illegal activity and catching criminals.

[Gandalf]

>guy is tied and sorrounded by 3 people in a dark alley
>two of them grab him, making sure he won't run
>cop sees multiple blips on the map so he drives as fast possible there
>guy sees the cop and instead of attempt to resist he runs towards the cop
>guy shouts at cops what those three were doing to him completely ignoring the attempts by the three guys to drag him
>cop calls for backup on radio
>the whole PD arrives and in matter of a minute you are sorrounded, you got no other choice so you decide to give up

At end the guy is magically safe but he did ignore the roleplay from the three guys who tied him up, he ruined their roleplay. You try to explain him what he did wrong but he decides to ignore or insult you. Of course the three guys are pissed off because everyone does the same thing.
This happens in almost every scenario, even if you are hanging out with your friends, i'm not saying it is a bad thing that someone actually is looking for roleplay but at least make sure not to ruin it.
Perhaps we could try to reduce the range to something like /s.

You are three guys tryin to rob someone and a cop shows up.
What do you do?
1. Get yourself in to safety before the cop can suspect you
2. shot at the cop to go away because he is ruining roleplay.

[TiMoN]

You are three guys tryin to rob someone and a cop shows up.
What do you do?
1. Get yourself in to safety before the cop can suspect you
2. shout at the cop to go away because he is ruining roleplay.

You and I know neither of these will work and we'll end up suspected w/ entire SAPD on our asses.

[Jeremy.]

So what about removing blips but changing area to be a little more detailed but not like it was, so a collection of areas would count as Eastern Los Santos, Western Los Santos etc. Split the areas into portions of grouped locations.

That sounds good.

[Gandalf]

You and I know neither of these will work and we'll end up suspected w/ entire SAPD on our asses.

You have blips to help you see the cop arriving. If you can not react to that, who is the one lacking skills?