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Reply #30 on: March 09, 2016, 10:31:13 pm
The robber was a new player and the victim was one from 2014 sadly...
wow. Really sad.


The screens that are posted is mostly 1 - 5% from what's exactly happening or what exactly happened.
But yes, I must say that there is sometimes a good roleplay between two groups but it mostly ends up in a shootout.

What do you expect from two enemy groups to do? Hang out and drink tea? The game itself is made with guns and those guns are to be used by everyone that plays this game. It would make sanse if you moan about shooting in SIMS, but in GTA it's kinda senseless. About good roleplay between two groups, it's more than obvious that you only spectate players when they interact their 'enemy' group, have you ever seen two groups that share same thoughts and how that looks like ?



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Reply #31 on: March 09, 2016, 10:35:43 pm
Missed the part where Devin said this mindset change must happen from players side, not forcibly from HQ. My wisdom says that's not going to happen in the near-future. Maybe with HQ positive reinforcement it's a possibility?



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Reply #32 on: March 09, 2016, 10:40:23 pm
What do you expect from two enemy groups to do? Hang out and drink tea? The game itself is made with guns and those guns are to be used by everyone that plays this game. It would make sanse if you moan about shooting in SIMS, but in GTA it's kinda senseless. About good roleplay between two groups, it's more than obvious that you only spectate players when they interact their 'enemy' group, have you ever seen two groups that share same thoughts and how that looks like ?
Never said they should drink tea. Sometimes a shootout isnt needed, sometimes fighting with fists will do aswell. But both groups want to have their "honor" and win the shootout.
And no, I dont spectate only when there's a war. I spectate people randomly.
Roleplay doesnt always mean shooting.

Anyhow, I'm talking generally. It always end up the same.
An example that happens everyday is when one get pulled over for reckless driving, guess how it ends? In a shootout for a damn ticket. But hey, it's GTA right?

I agree with Leon., just no idea how to fix this.



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Reply #33 on: March 09, 2016, 10:47:31 pm



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Reply #34 on: March 09, 2016, 10:48:26 pm
I've said it before and I will say it again.
The new generation of players in all games has changed to something shameful, they were taught that the way to live your life is to win, they are applying the same thing in games. They are here to win and not to have fun and create memories to talk about in the future. Unfortunately  this won't change at all, the more you remove these people the more the worst of them come which leads the server to the ground.
I'd say just make the server only accessible for certain ages or just leave it like that till somehow they learn few manners in their lives..
All good things sadly never last but we can create more to enjoy.



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Reply #35 on: March 09, 2016, 10:54:31 pm
I'd say just make the server only accessible for certain ages or just leave it like that till somehow they learn few manners in their lives..

If only it was that simple, sadly the owner is against blips being removed, there's no way in hell he would allow anything else that has the same goal.



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Reply #36 on: March 09, 2016, 10:57:27 pm
If only it was that simple, sadly the owner is against blips being removed, there's no way in hell he would allow anything else that has the same goal.
What happened to the idea of creating a parallel server based on hardcore RP?



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Reply #37 on: March 09, 2016, 10:58:51 pm
Loose money on hand, loose weed, loose items etc, then they won't kamikaze into a RP anymore.
This. Probably people will start caring about their things so they will think twice before pulling the trigger. I really believe this would help as we have had this feature before.



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Reply #38 on: March 09, 2016, 11:06:36 pm
Anyhow, I'm talking generally. It always end up the same.
An example that happens everyday is when one get pulled over for reckless driving, guess how it ends? In a shootout for a damn ticket. But hey, it's GTA right?
Back in the day police used to pull me over just to antagonize me, and when /frisk was around would /frisk me without probable cause (and always find nothing). These days, when I pull over for police, we have a good short chat and they let me go off with a warning for not leaving them in the dust :lol: vroom vroom, motherfuckers. I don't remember the last time I actually had to pay a ticket, because usually after the warning I'm more careful to slow down when I see a cop.

I think criminal groups should find more creative ways to interact with/antagonize each other. Fill up 3 cars and roll up on their spot and do a driveby in their general direction without killing them? No, that would cause the other group to call their friends on later or the next day and start a DM fest... would also be interpreted as DM in itself.
When an enemy is kidnapped and killed there wouldn't be a way for the enemy group to know outside of what the dead person tells them via /cb, right? I think that's really lame. Leon the fictional character has been in this shit for a while, he knows how to dispose of an individual so that nobody would know what happened, except for the fact that the victim has suddenly disappeared. But it'd be a different story if I decided to leave a severed head at the enemy's HQ, heh heh.

Sometimes I find a good sport from the enemy side who is willing to comply with my roleplay if they are victim. I offer to hold their guns if they are to die as a courtesy for a good roleplay; other times I will offer a ride from the hospital after the conclusion of the RP. I always watch out for those who provide a good roleplay and thank them. And as far as when I'm the victim, well if I can run I will most definitely try given my status - yet within reason! I.e. when I'm suddenly surrounded with guns being pointed at me, I sure as hell wouldn't try to run, and I would be cooperative inside and outside of roleplay. But when they disable my car, I don't keep running on foot to get myself killed to avoid roleplay - I throw my hands up in the air. Always trying to be a good sport & a good example for everybody. After all, what's the point of RPing if everyone gets all srsbsns and has no fun whatsoever? Some groups here are unwilling to be civil (let alone friendly) with the enemy group outside of roleplay, for WHATEVER dumb reason. I mean it's not like I literally pissed in your cereal this morning. Pride can be an ugly thing at times.

But there was a time in my own history where I would get pretty butthurt over RP events, bad girling in /P chat, "DMER," so on and so forth. I was younger, though. Maybe that explains a little bit of what's going on here. Khm touches on that subject very well.



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Reply #39 on: March 10, 2016, 04:28:13 am
Probably when they stop bitching on the forums and get in-game. We should just turn the forums off.



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Reply #40 on: March 10, 2016, 05:55:33 am
I can remember some time ago i was just randomly driving around, then i stopped by GS9 to fuel. 3 Gvardias (who were training a new player, i suppose), stopped me and immediatly drawn guns. I cooperated with the roleplay, they took everything i could give to them and they have decided to kill me (as i have seen their faces, and i could just give them to the police). Right after everything, i sent a PM to them complying then for actually grabbing me out of my boredom and how it was a petty fun situation and how i got a good impression all out of this.

They told me they'd sure make it longer if the area didn't crowded up with cops who'd just ignore the concept and think i was being kidnapped, or something, lol. My point relating this is: if you're ingame, you accept an imaginary contract, where it says clearly that if you're actually playing the game, you're there to roleplay, and you gotta know ANYTHING may happen to you.

If you walk out in the rain, you're there to wet yourself.

Debating with idiots it's like trying to play chess with a pigeon - it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.


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Reply #41 on: March 10, 2016, 09:03:17 am
Let's not focus on the bad things too much. Let's encourage and point out the good when we see it, and not just in a way to boost our friends or our own selves.
This is probably my favorite thing that you've ever said in the entire time I've known you here. And looking at our forum join dates, it's been a loooong ride.
Shout out to those who have always looked out for the sake of RP, and those whom praise others that do the same. Even bigger shout out to those who never take events that happen in RP personally. And thanks to those who say "thanks for the roleplay :)" and actually mean it even when they get their asses steamrolled in a shootout, regardless of why the shootout happened.



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Reply #42 on: March 10, 2016, 10:41:00 am
Failed attempt at promoting a dead server.

No one cares about what you do in Paruni, for the most part you have cheating staff and ban innocents for hacks or ban people for questioning your opinion or saying something that you don't like. If we had discussions like these on Paruni forums most of the people here on the other side of your opinion would be bannned.



On topic, unless you people quit the damn play to win mentality then we would never go anywhere.
And actually take RP fucking seriously, if you assume a role stay within the parimeters of the role. If people would stop keep pulling random illogical shit out of their asses in role play that would be great. Its not hard, but for some reason we seem to not understand how logic works.

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Reply #43 on: March 10, 2016, 10:42:39 am
I felt like responding with "wow, everyone's a critic". But I didn't because it'd of just have brought about negativity in return. Instead I decided to just leave the server and play some Parallel Universe SAMP instead.
I feel that if we allow such responses being seen (those of negative nature), there is no hope.

Peoples constant negativity and hopelessness is a serious issue. It's indeed one reason why it's completely banned unless done in a structured meeting in Parallel Universe Community. I would urge this community to continue to promote positivism and embrace the values of acceptance, tolerance and understanding.


Whilst that is some nice advertising tactic for Paruni, we have no reason to just go and ban someone for sharing their opinion, whether it is good or bad. Whilst we allow a sense of "freedom of speech" there is a line and those that cross the threshold will soon find out what happens. Sure negative behaviour leads to more negative attitudes and mindsets of players however we are not going to be ignorant enough to deny people the right to share what is not pleasing them. We all know there are problems within the community.

We aren't going to be ignorant and ban or remove people for being upset or venting their frustrations, that's idiotic and childish. The only real way to address the negative mindset and behaviour is to address the cause of it, not to simply remove those that are being negative.



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Reply #44 on: March 11, 2016, 12:05:44 am
The biggest reason I do no play is my private life, other than that I do not feel the 'fun' when there's no drug script yet today. Group wise, that's the kind of gang I want and it turns out rather one sided when you kinda await the script whilst you attempt to keep busy doing random things with mostly muppets unwilling to roleplay. The change (other topic) will do lots of good.

Last group we had up and running was Lakewood, that was nearly a year ago and it was pure bliss until it turned boring because we had not much to do in the city. Even then the rumors about the drug script were taking place and it was considered a release short after we opened up. Turned out to be a year of waiting. Sure, you can do some lame weed/heroin deals like 2008, but that sucks and going totally out of script-creative is also getting boring to me. I know the new drug system is on its way up now though and I look forward to see how it turns out.

But hey, I will try to be as active as possible. You guys are doing much good right now. I truly admire y'all.



 


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