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Reply #120 on: April 24, 2016, 07:40:08 pm
You read my reply wrong. I meant, what if the character I role play after my previous CK is rich? If I use my imagination, and since argonath is a world of its own, I am fully capable of doing such thing.
THIS! The character I role play after my previous CK is superman, can I use flyhack sir? since argonath is a world of its own, I am fully capable of doing such thing.

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Reply #121 on: April 24, 2016, 07:40:29 pm
I can't take anymore BS here, I'll give my fair share of what I've seen in my 5 years of SAMP.

Many srs rp servers allow players to earn hundreds of thousands, yet many choose to retain their specific rp career, in other words they keep most of the money in their bank(think of a separate bank account) and roleplay being a broke ass black who steals TVs like Bruce.

If they ever choose to get CK'd by their angry hood members, they usually change name(or get admin jailed for a millennium *cough* LS-shit *cough* until they donate for a new name or make a new account). If they choose to roleplay something new, say a business man, they withdraw whatever money they want as if nothing happened.

We don't have to limit our roleplay based on scripted assets, if I want to own an ammunation but roleplay a guy who supports anti gun movements(couldn't think of anything less hypocritical). Or even as I said before, someone who has millions in his bank account but chooses to RP an e-thug, who are you to judge my way of RP?

Bottom line is, RP isn't defined by what assets you own, it's defined by what you choose to act as. Owning assets such as a rusty old car for your broke ass homie contributes to his personality, but doesn't mean you can't have a mansion that you wish to keep but never use for this character.

I do not disagree, don't mistake me for someone who is against the current system we have. I enjoy it. I however am the one who is stuck to make the tough choices always. Do I keep a great system and let it be repeatedly abused and as a result seclude a group of players from achieving quality roleplay, or do I ditch a great system in order to prevent repeated abuse at the cost of an extensive amount of possibility, but at least secluded evenly across all players. I fucking hate having to be the one making these choices, but too many people haven't made these choices or arguments out of fear of being hated. I don't care. Hate me. Please. It's the Internet, I'll live. In the end I know the choices I am making are in good faith to fix things here for equality and quality.



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Reply #122 on: April 24, 2016, 07:40:40 pm
Oh well... I've always roleplayed multiple characters, hence why I defend distinguishing my username ("Mobius") from my multiple character names, which You wouldn't know unless you would actually get to know me. It's been ages now since the first time someone with an arrest warrant came looking for "Mr Mobius", who obviously doesnt exist. Since 2013 onwards I've roleplayed neutral characters, and having multiple characters (or atleast personalities) has always been worthy to me. I dont see a reason for which I should stop roleplaying like this. Not everyone portraying multiple characters is looking forward to abusing death.



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Reply #123 on: April 24, 2016, 07:42:29 pm
Do I keep a great system and let it be repeatedly abused and as a result seclude a group of players from achieving quality roleplay, or do I ditch a great system in order to prevent repeated abuse at the cost of an extensive amount of possibility, but at least secluded evenly across all players.
Got a point.
If people didn't take the piss with what freedom we have, we'd be trusted to have it  :gand:


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Reply #124 on: April 24, 2016, 07:42:58 pm
To solve death issue:
- You only actually die when you accept a character kill. If you don't, then you are merely heavily injured and taken to a hospital. Heavy weapons are stripped off, you may keep a handgun and non-lethal weaponry , and will spawn at a hospital once healed. This can also remove the cops returning after death rule, since it should take a minute or two after dying (being in a hospital interior and laying on a bed). Once out of hospital, you are the same person you were before being there, just healed from the injuries.
I'd rather have players into forced "death mode" where they can be saved by medics, finally giving them an actual job other than /s heal????
Pathetic people who escape RP consequences by committing suicide(Would you really do that in real life? If yes please end yourself) should be punished accordingly.



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Reply #125 on: April 24, 2016, 07:43:38 pm
THIS! The character I role play after my previous CK is superman, can I use flyhack sir? since argonath is a world of its own, I am fully capable of doing such thing.
Reason why I don't reply to such topics. Can we for once stop ping these kinds of things? Being superman and role playing a rich civilian are two different things.


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Reply #126 on: April 24, 2016, 07:45:33 pm
Also, a ban without an opportunity to return for people who evade role play in such manner would be suitable.


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Reply #127 on: April 24, 2016, 07:46:18 pm
I'd rather have players into forced "death mode" where they can be saved by medics, finally giving them an actual job other than /s heal????
Pathetic people who escape RP consequences by committing suicide(Would you really do that in real life? If yes please end yourself) should be punished accordingly.
Yeah, good idea. Medics and the rest of medical team can attend when the shootout or whatever it was finished and try to revive the guy at the scene or even take him to the nearest hospital if its necessary.

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Reply #128 on: April 24, 2016, 07:47:00 pm
And if no medics?
I guess simply automatically transfer to hospital and stuff?



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Reply #129 on: April 24, 2016, 07:47:45 pm
Yeah, good idea. Medics and the rest of medical team can attend when the shootout or whatever it was finished and try to revive the guy at the scene or even take him to the nearest hospital if its necessary.

This,

But if the guy decided to suicide  /ck  the body won't be there for the medics to save him?


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Reply #130 on: April 24, 2016, 07:49:01 pm
Also, a ban without an opportunity to return for people who evade role play in such manner would be suitable.

"A ban without an opportunity to return" does not exist. Many permanent bans have been lifted.



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Reply #131 on: April 24, 2016, 07:49:30 pm
Reason why I don't reply to such topics. Can we for once stop ping these kinds of things? Being superman and role playing a rich civilian are two different things.

This is your life, if I decide to RP as superman character I would use a flyhack and get banned after a few minutes.
If you decide to RP as a rich guy you have to moneycheat and get banned after a few minutes.

Get the point please, if you wanna RP as a rich guy you are supposed to MAKE that guy rich.

This,

But if the guy decided to suicide /ck the body won't be there for the medics to save him.

That's his choice, indeed.

And if no medics?
I guess simply automatically transfer to hospital and stuff?
You have to pay more $$ for that.

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Reply #132 on: April 24, 2016, 07:53:12 pm
To solve multi character issue:
- Allow only one character per player, make people use proper roleplay names and they are what their name is. If one is named James McKing, then he is James McKing. He can lie when speaking to officers about his name, but they can retreive his real name by running a check via MDC on ownership of his vehicle by the vehicle plate or by an unique ID that is generated on each player's passport. But in court, you can't pull an excuse that you were being another person or something. That should be a goner.

To solve death issue:
- You only actually die when you accept a character kill. If you don't, then you are merely heavily injured and taken to a hospital. Heavy weapons are stripped off, you may keep a handgun and non-lethal weaponry , and will spawn at a hospital once healed. This can also remove the cops returning after death rule, since it should take a minute or two after dying (being in a hospital interior and laying on a bed). Once out of hospital, you are the same person you were before being there, just healed from the injuries.

This is just a brief idea / suggestion.

And as a criminal you can return to the same roleplay as well as you never died, right?



Let's get this solved without all kind of additional scripting work please.



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Reply #133 on: April 24, 2016, 07:53:13 pm
This is your life, if I decide to RP as superman character I would use a flyhack and get banned after a few minutes.
If you decide to RP as a rich guy you have to moneycheat and get banned after a few minutes.

Get the point please, if you wanna RP as a rich guy you are supposed to MAKE that guy rich.

That's his choice, indeed.
You have to pay more $$ for that.
I don't think I have to go around telling people how my character earned money. I don't care about my virtual asset but since I worked for it both in and out of role play, I'd like to protect it.


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Reply #134 on: April 24, 2016, 07:57:23 pm
And as a criminal you can return to the same roleplay as well as you never died, right?

No shit... what? :|
You already found a way to screw it mate....

You shouldn't be able to return to the same situation. Unless the reviving process takes more than 30 minutes or something like that.

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