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Offline McGarrett

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Reply #30 on: May 04, 2016, 05:01:11 pm
Or just have a server wide paycheck system?


If you are here for doing random event stuff, I'd recommend a free roam server. We're not that anymore. We're a roleplay server.


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Reply #31 on: May 04, 2016, 05:21:32 pm
Or just have a server wide paycheck system?

I prefer a working saving account.



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Reply #32 on: May 04, 2016, 05:45:11 pm
I prefer a working saving account.
No saving. It will make the economy destable. Where will the extra money come from?


If you are here for doing random event stuff, I'd recommend a free roam server. We're not that anymore. We're a roleplay server.


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Reply #33 on: May 04, 2016, 05:58:51 pm
No saving. It will make the economy destable. Where will the extra money come from?

Have you seen the global bank?  :eek:



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Reply #34 on: May 04, 2016, 07:13:22 pm
I cannot and will not condone a system that provides money without absolute accountability and commitment. I do not see BSF or the mere idea of BSF as a possibility to suffice those requirements.



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Reply #35 on: May 04, 2016, 07:24:27 pm
I cannot and will not condone a system that provides money without absolute accountability and commitment. I do not see BSF or the mere idea of BSF as a possibility to suffice those requirements.
Can you please reply to my PM and by giving me a feedback actually improve the economy by giving more options to legal jobs? Or, delay it until the market for gems appears.
That would be more useful than discussing god da-mn BSF which is a money farming method.

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Reply #36 on: May 04, 2016, 07:29:17 pm
I would confidently support something similar to this, perhaps making overshadowed jobs more used, pushing them towards roleplaying and earning cash in the same time. It requires a new structure maybe but I'd love to see it implemented.

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Reply #37 on: May 04, 2016, 07:50:26 pm
What BSF did is it set requirements that were far too easy for any business owner to accomplish and as a result we dumped overloads of money into the economy, and guess what happened? Business owners took advantage of the system, kept 90 percent of the money for themselves and distributed small amounts to their employees. The system was completely corrupted and flawed, the management staff for BSF had criteria they were suppose to follow-up on that never occurred.

The system in itself is a great concept, it introduces money into the economy by providing business the opportunity to roleplay and provide business opportunities for players, but it has to be maintained and managed strictly to prevent it's overuse and abuse like it was before and caused unhealthy rates of inflation that assisted in completely ruining the previous economy. If we can prevent that from happening, I'll always support form of government subsidies to help produce growth.

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Reply #38 on: May 04, 2016, 07:58:59 pm
What BSF did is it set requirements that were far too easy for any business owner to accomplish and as a result we dumped overloads of money into the economy, and guess what happened? Business owners took advantage of the system, kept 90 percent of the money for themselves and distributed small amounts to their employees. The system was completely corrupted and flawed, the management staff for BSF had criteria they were suppose to follow-up on that never occurred.

The system in itself is a great concept, it introduces money into the economy by providing business the opportunity to roleplay and provide business opportunities for players, but it has to be maintained and managed strictly to prevent it's overuse and abuse like it was before and caused unhealthy rates of inflation that assisted in completely ruining the previous economy. If we can prevent that from happening, I'll always support form of government subsidies to help produce growth.

Kind of like 5.2 Meth ?

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Reply #39 on: May 04, 2016, 08:07:24 pm
Kind of like 5.2 Meth ?

The flaws of meth in 5.2 are the exact same inflation flaws BSF had, we just caught meth a lot quicker than we caught BSF.

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Reply #40 on: May 04, 2016, 08:10:55 pm
When I was running Argonath World Records, BSF was actually pretty strict.
We had to identify a strategy of expenditure, which for us included:
  • Monthly paychecks
  • Average expenditure for money given to players with new World Records
  • Expenditure for advertising

This was reviewed by the BSF team, who ensured we weren't taking the piss.
In addition, we also had a set of criteria, one of which was having 50% of our employee base consisting of players 6 months old or less.



Every cost had to be proven (usually by screenshot), including all monthly payments, all payments to new World Record Holders, and and every advertisement. Absolute ball-ache (for me and Curse particularly - he did adverts) but it worked fairly well  :lol:

I do think BSF was initially very lenient, but certainly not when we got to using it!
It'd be great to have some kind of initiative like this - Government grants are not anything new and if there's an area of problems, there should be incentives.

Just my 2 cents worth  :gand:


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Reply #41 on: May 04, 2016, 08:14:09 pm
Putting BSF back in the game is a no-no. It's a bad idea imo and it will lead to failure.

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Reply #42 on: May 04, 2016, 08:54:23 pm
RS5.2 introduced more ways for people to earn money and you still want that shitty BSF back? No thanks! :gand:

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Reply #43 on: May 06, 2016, 05:54:53 am
Not supporting nor declining the idea but those who are bitching that BSF was a pretty corrupted, Roman just filled his pockets and this is a bad idea, they are totally wrong.

I've experienced it and BSF had a pretty strict criteria. Secondly BSF made companies active, as in people would get active and their playing hours would increase. I don't clearly remember it but perhaps BSF had a 'minimum playing hours' criteria too. This thing made people to play on Argonath and spend their time doing their jobs so that they could earn shitload of money, yes almost 30-100k but overall it was an advantage for Argonath and it's activity. It gave people an aim and a perspective to spend their time on Argonath.
This thing can work if you want it to work, simple.



 


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