[IV:MP] Rework of vehicle prices

[rid]

For Primo, I did add additional 2k to the price I firstly suggested C:
Dunno it looks old, how ever you take it, it can't go over 15k xD
12k sounds okay to me, maybe 13k.. to make it as same as damn Fortune :P

The Primo has a hell of a lot of more appeal than that ugly thing called Fortune!

[Ramis]

I think that its unfair to see changes in all Ds's other than grotti.
I mean lets look at it from the owner prespective, each profit is around 1-20k
Grotti itself gives lowest profit 40-65k

So having it price increase means more profits to Grooti Business and lower Profits to all other businesses.

The main problem is not paying 3-9k for lower cars, everyone will be able to afford them with new fireman,medic missions.

But rather the high end cars are insanely high 300k for a comet thats 5x its old 60k price.
Alright seems like its too high right ?
Answer is NO
250$ x 5 =1250$
If this was old rs 1.6 struggling to get 60k will be the same as struggling to get 300k.
Its well balanced in every means.
Having each every car price dropped making current lower class business men loss.
But grooti still will have same old prices, even more this time is insane.
No reWork is needed because the profits from missions before and now has the same ratio.

Great thinking.
Cheapo cars are going to be worth 20 minutes of job. Nobody will buy them ever because they will want to go high end.

[Mihail Junkovich]

At this moment the situation is like this - "Does anyone own that car? No? Okay, I might buy it."

Each of sort of unique cars has only 1 owner.. i.e. Feltzer, Primo, Pony, Dilettante, Vincent etc. Most of the players will almost always save the cash for something "better", regardless of price.. with this updated, we might lure a bit more of them to try out other cars instead of going for "I want to be very best".

The rule above is excluded for popular vehicles like Vigero and Blista Compact. If you can count me 5 players that own DF8-90, sure.. I'll retreat :P

[ahmedXD]

This whole idea is promoting players to even play less and get more, I recall a 1200$ mission reward, which is healthy enough to afford a 10k vehicle in 10 mission which is 5 hours only of playtime.
In the previous update it took more than a day  to get the first vehicle.
You are now even promoting getting a vehicle in around 2.5 hours.

The way I see it one of the reasons why Argonath is special because, the economy system is not easy, its hard to get something, its challenging and fun to new players.

if you want to make something easy, lower the extremely high end vehicle prices, in which on previous updates people owned atleast 4 of them with a price less than 500k, now you cant get 2 cars with 500k at least make high end cars cheaper to have previous owners get their old sport cars back to their garages. or don't bother lowering anything else at all.

It might impact the interest in the server to new players in a negative way, many people will buy cheap cars to test them , then sell them for a small loss,  less than 1.2k then recover the amount by doing missions, it will be a total mess.

[superh2o]

This whole idea is promoting players to even play less and get more, I recall a 1200$ mission reward, which is healthy enough to afford a 10k vehicle in 10 mission which is 5 hours only of playtime.
In the previous update it took more than a day  to get the first vehicle.
You are now even promoting getting a vehicle in around 2.5 hours.

The way I see it one of the reasons why Argonath is special because, the economy system is not easy, its hard to get something, its challenging and fun to new players.

if you want to make something easy, lower the extremely high end vehicle prices, in which on previous updates people owned atleast 4 of them with a price less than 500k, now you cant get 2 cars with 500k at least make high end cars cheaper to have previous owners get their old sport cars back to their garages. or don't bother lowering anything else at all.

It might impact the interest in the server to new players in a negative way, many people will buy cheap cars to test them , then sell them for a small loss,  less than 1.2k then recover the amount by doing missions, it will be a total mess.

Want a high end car but you don't have one rent one, i don't see why you need to own something to use it.
I used to rent cars i wanted to test or drive. Even now i own a truck and a huntly, all others cars i need i ask for a rent or ask if anyone is willing to gimme access to it for x time.

[ahmedXD]

Want a high end car but you don't have one rent one, i don't see why you need to own something to use it.
I used to rent cars i wanted to test or drive. Even now i own a truck and a huntly, all others cars i need i ask for a rent or ask if anyone is willing to gimme access to it for x time.

What if old players demanded to have their high end vehicles back, the vehicles they loved and owned before the update.
It makes more sense to lower the high end cars to make them satisfied than lower already low cost cars to make new players play less and get things easily, not like the 1200$ is a big thing either since this topic is suggested.

[superh2o]

What if old players demanded to have their high end vehicles back, the vehicles they loved and owned before the update.
It makes more sense to lower the high end cars to make them satisfied than lower already low cost cars to make new players play less and get things easily, not like the 1200$ is a big thing either since this topic is suggested.

Where there is will there is a way.
All who own any property or a vehicle did work for the same.
You love the vehicle you used to own cant afford it rent it as i said, if you wanna work for your own, roll up the sleeves and work hard for it, high end vehicles are at a place they should be they ask for a lot of money as they put a lot of things to the table, the look, performance, handling and for some players status signs.

My most sincere suggestion for those who don't own a vehicle is to find anyone willing to rent a spot in the garage so they can use it or just hourly rent for that day, the invite system allows such things its a shame not to use it.

[ahmedXD]

Where there is will there is a way.
All who own any property or a vehicle did work for the same.
You love the vehicle you used to own cant afford it rent it as i said, if you wanna work for your own, roll up the sleeves and work hard for it, high end vehicles are at a place they should be they ask for a lot of money as they put a lot of things to the table, the look, performance, handling and for some players status signs.

My most sincere suggestion for those who don't own a vehicle is to find anyone willing to rent a spot in the garage so they can use it or just hourly rent for that day, the invite system allows such things its a shame not to use it.

People don't want to rent vehicles that they owned in the past , they want them back.
Its like having a new government come and sell all your stuffs then force you to buy your existing properties for a massively high price and if you didn't like it , you can rent the vehicles you want.
This doesn't make any sense.
Also Why have empathy on new players now if they didn't ask for it in the first place ?

Edit: I`m not against high prices, but if there is something that needs to be lowered it should be the High End Vehicles, not the low , mid range vehicles.

[superh2o]

All players are equal in this server, new, old, manager, mod, admin or even a past rule breaker.

We all had a clean start with this new update.

Prices have gone up yeah but you earn more now from legal jobs, like fireman medic and fishing.

New update brought so much opportunity for rp we didn't have in past version, i love the fact more players focus on rp now days then on money.

Still those who want to earn money they work hard and buy what they want.

[Mihail Junkovich]

You can ask for it as long as you want, but i.e. Comet ain't gonna be 60k ever again
I did not want to overload you guys with lots of information to process but if it was for me, I would bump the current cost of high-end vehicles even more

But that is just me, a paprika 

[James Conway]

or don't bother lowering anything else at all

it will be a total mess.

what

[Joey]

If they prices of High-End vehicles are lowered they won't be "High-End" anymore.

People don't want to rent vehicles that they owned in the past , they want them back.

They can buy them back, everyone can.

This doesn't make any sense.

What is this?

Also Why have empathy on new players now if they didn't ask for it in the first place ?

Its more hard for new players than the old players cuz they have to start from 1200$ and not even 10k.

[ahmedXD]

what

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If they prices of High-End vehicles are lowered they won't be "High-End" anymore. They can buy them back, everyone can.
What is this?
Its more hard for new players than the old players cuz they have to start from 1200$ and not even 10k.

Lets say you have a comet, rs, supergt and a banshee
You paid 60k+60k+120k+80k+50k=370k
After the update
300k+153k+330k+180k=963k
Who will pay me 593k to get my cars back ??
..
Do you get the point now ?

if there was a price change happening anytime soon, the priority will go to the majourity owned vehicles in the past and lower their prices in the present.
More number of people have priority in having their old cars lowered, just because they struggled as much as new players will now in the new update.

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pff new players can easily make 12k in 5-6hours and buy a descent non-rusty vehicle.

In the past it took longer time and we had to spam F
Jobs are easier nowadays, the low,mid prices are reasonable.
High end prices are not that bad, but older players have to work again in-order to repurchase their old vehicles from the previous update.

If you ask me I prioritize older players who struggled in the past and are going to struggle again now, this price game if not stopped now, I can expect to see a higher price in the new update and the players are the victim.
there is nothing wrong with low , mid range  vehicles they didn't increase 5,6times more as the high end.

[Joey]

?Lets say you have a comet, rs, supergt and a banshee
You paid 60k+60k+120k+80k+50k=370k
After the update
300k+153k+330k+180k=963k
Who will pay me 593k to get my cars back ??
..
Do you get the point now ?

That's the point, they are all high-ends, you can't expect to own them all unless you can really afford them.

pff new players can easily make 12k in 5-6hours and buy a descent non-rusty vehicle.

So can you, everyone gets paid the same amount for the job.

Who will pay me 593k to get my cars back ??

You gave the answer yourself.
This

In the past it took longer time and we had to spam F
Jobs are easier nowadays

and this

players can easily make 12k in 5-6hours

and also this

But rather the high end cars are insanely high 300k for a comet thats 5x its old 60k price.
Alright seems like its too high right ?
Answer is NO
250$ x 5 =1250$
If this was old rs 1.6 struggling to get 60k will be the same as struggling to get 300k.
Its well balanced in every means.

[ahmedXD]

If it is well balanced as I stated, then why increase it more  ?
Either keep it the same or decrease it.

I was stating due to its high prices in general old players priority to have them lowered is higher than new players priority to lower already low , low and mid range vehicles.