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Red Phosphorus ad clarification

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Reply #15 on: December 18, 2017, 09:05:59 am
Your ad clearly indicates that you intend to use the materials in the production of meth, which makes the ad illegal.
And how does it clearly indicate? Haha.

"Red phosphorus, comparatively harmless, is used in matches. Ferrophosphorus, a combination of phosphorus with iron, is used as an ingredient in high-strength low-alloy steel. In addition, the many organic compounds of phosphorus have varied uses, including those as additives for gasoline and lubricating oil, as plasticizers for plastics that otherwise would be inconveniently rigid, and, in some cases, as powerful insecticides, related to nerve poisons."

What if he's selling matches.

It's not illegal.



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Reply #16 on: December 18, 2017, 09:19:15 am
Your ad clearly indicates that you intend to use the materials in the production of meth, which makes the ad illegal.
So let's say that I only craft that certain item, in this case Red Phosphorus and only that. I myself use the item in this case as a money earning source. I only craft and sell Red Phosphorus. Am I doing something illegal? No I am not, It's none of my business what the buyer does with it. I myself am selling something that it's not against the constitution. I am not selling meth or any other illegal stuff. If people think that it's illegal then call the certain agencies to deal with it. But to be honest, it's not something Admins should handle. It's more roleplay wise situation.
I really do not understand how Red Phosphorus can be illegal.

EDIT:
Red Phosphorus can also be used to make Matchsticks, does that make Matchsticks illegal as well? C'mon, this argument is useless.



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Reply #17 on: December 18, 2017, 09:32:05 am
I know it's illogical and not every rule is set on logical grounds either however i was applying what i was told of and I'm not gonna change that by myself.
The facepalm is because you're refusing to understand after a dozen of repeated explanations.

Dude all the respect for you but you stepped into deep shit with that comment. Don't you have your own opinion?

I suggest everyone who said this is illegal to apologize to Arslan.

Facepalm because he's refusing to understand? No, admirations for him and his common sense.



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Reply #18 on: December 18, 2017, 10:13:31 am
I don't get why such an illegal advertisement is handled in administrative ways and not by law enforcement though.



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Reply #19 on: December 18, 2017, 10:15:30 am
I don't get why such an illegal advertisement is handled in administrative ways and not by law enforcement though.
Exactly this. It shouldn't be handled by ADMINS, it should be handled by the proper law enforcement AKA FBI AND/OR SAPD.

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Reply #20 on: December 18, 2017, 10:17:31 am
I don't get why such an illegal advertisement is handled in administrative ways and not by law enforcement though.
How is crafting matchsticks being illegal? Explain please. I was in-game when he made the ad... it was "Selling red phosphorus", not "Selling meth ingredient" nor "selling red phosphorus for cookin' " You can't claim something is illegal if there is a legal use of it. Admit it already.



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Reply #21 on: December 18, 2017, 10:29:42 am
How is crafting matchsticks being illegal? Explain please. I was in-game when he made the ad... it was "Selling red phosphorus", not "Selling meth ingredient" nor "selling red phosphorus for cookin' " You can't claim something is illegal if there is a legal use of it. Admit it already.
You might want to get your facts straight. The ad clearly said it was intended to use the items for meth production. Who are you guys trying to fool?




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Reply #22 on: December 18, 2017, 10:37:49 am
You might want to get your facts straight. The ad clearly said it was intended to use the items for meth production. Who are you guys trying to fool?

No no no no, that ad was made after the conversation with admins and was made more to mock them. The first one said only AD Selling Red Phosphorus.

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Reply #23 on: December 18, 2017, 11:32:10 am
I don't get why such an illegal advertisement is handled in administrative ways and not by law enforcement though.
Exactly this. It shouldn't be handled by ADMINS, it should be handled by the proper law enforcement AKA FBI AND/OR SAPD.
I dare you both to go to any local news source and publish an advertisement saying you sell weed and cocaine, let me know the news channel and I'll wait. The logic behind admins interfering is that a news agency would never display anything illegal, AND "GREEN TEA AND WHITE SUGAR" SHOULD ALSO BE BANNED. But that's for a different subject.



Whoever told you it's against the rules is clearly not educated on the constitution, as red phosphorus is in itself not illegal. Fuck, bribery wasn't illegal at some point in time xDD It got me banned though, so I'd watch out.



You might want to get your facts straight. The ad clearly said it was intended to use the items for meth production. Who are you guys trying to fool?

but bruh what, it clearly says neth there???

Mr Cofiliano how can you deny that we had any relation or intercourse, while you are prosecuting me?


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Reply #24 on: December 18, 2017, 12:00:06 pm
Let's keep going with logic shall we.
Such kind of chemicals needs a license hi stivi from any government to be sold and have the cops being in their asses the whole time, the sponsors/companies that sell such kinds of chemicals always have clients which means they do not need any advertisement through the newspaper and/or the media as the companies who need such ingredients to craft any product (weapon, matchsticks, medicines) will go to them by themselves. So any citizen cannot advertise such chemical in the news to be sold as he doesn't have the license to sell and is considered illegal if he does so.
One more thing: Matchsticks aren't only made of red phosphorus (hi bogomil)



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Reply #25 on: December 18, 2017, 12:13:49 pm
hi stivi
Hi.

Let's keep going with logic shall we.
Yet you can sell armour cases but not red phosphorus.

Such kind of chemicals needs a license
Thought we were to keep going with logic here, no? They don't need, they are not even illegal as far as the constitution goes.  Guns don't even need a license, yet you want something that is legal, COMPLETELY legal, to have a license? You know we buy that shit from black market right? So how will you regulate that? lol pls.

I don't mean to be offensive by saying uneducated or something, I apologize to anyone who sees it as such, my vocabulary is just not the greatest  :dead:

Mr Cofiliano how can you deny that we had any relation or intercourse, while you are prosecuting me?


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Reply #26 on: December 18, 2017, 12:18:07 pm
hhhh he said to make neth /lock


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Reply #27 on: December 18, 2017, 12:39:17 pm
As long as in the constitution it is not marked as illegal ingredient i see no reason to not allow it, however.. afterwards some detective should begin to do his job and find out what is going on behind the scene.


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Reply #28 on: December 18, 2017, 12:48:22 pm
Let's say it's illegal  :app:
And we need license  :app:
(Hi ikhm) where is the licenses ?
Befor you speak make license script then told US we need to have license to deal it .
We don't have a license script , so when cop catch me ill do smth ez pz , /me takes out the pocket and takes the license from it , /me hands it to the officer , done.
And we deal with it .
Try to make license script then talk about it ;)
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Reply #29 on: December 18, 2017, 12:50:54 pm
Let's keep going with logic shall we.
Such kind of chemicals needs a license hi stivi from any government to be sold and have the cops being in their asses the whole time, the sponsors/companies that sell such kinds of chemicals always have clients which means they do not need any advertisement through the newspaper and/or the media as the companies who need such ingredients to craft any product (weapon, matchsticks, medicines) will go to them by themselves. So any citizen cannot advertise such chemical in the news to be sold as he doesn't have the license to sell and is considered illegal if he does so.
One more thing: Matchsticks aren't only made of red phosphorus (hi bogomil)
According to crafting system it is. Also just admit you're wrong dude :D You should know when you're wrong



 


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