Roleplay direction of the server

[Bogomil]

I don't want to blame the staff team, their role is to make sure players are following the rules. But there isn't roleplay standard, there aren't rules against player A robbing player C, and when player C gets robbed three times per day, he gets frustrated and says "I can't stay here anymore"... I've witnessed this through the years, I know that server was even worse once, but why no one tries to change that?
I want the roleplay standards of the server to be raised and defined. As Greasy said I prefer server having 5 people who are worth and I know I'm not wasting my time rather than 30 people doing the same boring shit day after day and calling it roleplay.
And it's not about bugs, scripts or developers at all, people with normal mindset can produce high quality roleplay using only basic commands.

[Andeey]

I see the issues clear as anyone else here, We need to be more strict over roleplay, We need to crack down on people purely being targeted because of the Tag he/she wears.

A more clear understanding of the rules and the way roleplay works in SA:MP too, Many players are confused on what level of roleplay is needed to properly handle situations, Such as reasonable cause for killing another player, When and when not to go after a particular player/group.

A lot of groups nowadays have genuine hatred toward others which is just going to lead us nowhere but downwards, Just because of a players name or their status they should not be treated any differently in terms of roleplay. We need to set aside our differences and start to get along, we're here to have fun guys. If you cannot have fun without always winning then you should seriously seek out another server to play on, Because we all have to lose sometimes.

A situation ingame happened recently maybe 2-3 weeks ago, A player got his weed field stolen out armed by 3-4 men he was robbed and killed for possession of the field, Now this player has spent weeks attacking everything the group has done and will not let go of that hatred toward them.

Now i understand how this feels and that you lost 2-3 hours of your time getting robbed for the field but lets be real for a moment people, Suck it up.. Like for real day after day i see players just continuing to play against others based on situations that happened days/weeks/months and even years ago, Stop being a group is children and suck it up we all have to lose sometimes, Afterall once you die in a situation that's it, You're dead new life new you, You don't know anyone RPly from this point on you should continue and be neutral to everyone you encounter, Sure this isn't a Character being killed off but it is killing off your past situation that just happened, you can no longer use that scenario to affect any future ROLEPLAYS.

Please get to understanding this, If we want any of our rules to affect the server and have any real impact people need to start changing, Any one coming in this topic with anyone unrelated to whats going on or generally just to throw blame/shit on others just don't..

WE need people to be willing to change for us to force change, It's been said in the past and i will say it again new rules won't change anything if players arent willing to change.

[adam_malik]

I don't want to blame the staff team, their role is to make sure players are following the rules. But there isn't roleplay standard, there aren't rules against player A robbing player C, and when player C gets robbed three times per day, he gets frustrated and says "I can't stay here anymore"... I've witnessed this through the years, I know that server was even worse once, but why no one tries to change that?
I want the roleplay standards of the server to be raised and defined. As Greasy said I prefer server having 5 people who are worth and I know I'm not wasting my time rather than 30 people doing the same boring shit day after day and calling it roleplay.
And it's not about bugs, scripts or developers at all, people with normal mindset can produce high quality roleplay using only basic commands.

This is correct. They gotta need to add roleplay standards and detailed rules for robbing, scamming, bunnyhopping, and etc.

[Dimos]

I try to some roleplay to restraunt we have i did many add but most of players ingore it and do staff like gambling idk we need have more roleplay and not ingore it if you not have mood for it quit and join later simple as that i sick people site around do nothing and ingore you if try to roleplay with them sure you can report it the thing is not just give warnings or something else to players is that need start roleplay normaly i am not good at roleplay at least i am trying

[Stefos]

I agree with you 100%. People (mostly cops) don't give a fuck about RP. They just come here to abuse the rules and get cash. I've seen most cops hunting the players for the reason "driving in the wrong lane" as you were driving in the right one. I believe this is a VERY VERY VERY light RP Server as most people abuse most of it things and 3 out of 50 people RP along.

[youoo]

I agree with you 100%. People (mostly cops) don't give a fuck about RP. They just come here to abuse the rules and get cash. I've seen most cops hunting the players for the reason "driving in the wrong lane" as you were driving in the right one. I believe this is a VERY VERY VERY light RP Server as most people abuse most of it things and 3 out of 50 people RP along.

Driving in the wrong lane as you mention isn't allowed at any country as much as I know, In my country you can be jailed and you will have to pay a huge fee. PLUS if you comply with the officer from the start, He won't SU'ed you and you will pay the ticket only which won't effect your notoriety.

[Thomas_A]

How many of these topics we've had over the years ? If I got an euro for each one, I'd be millionare. There are no changes coming, why bother ?

[neriionz]

Driving in the wrong lane as you mention isn't allowed at any country as much as I know, In my country you can be jailed and you will have to pay a huge fee. PLUS if you comply with the officer from the start, He won't SU'ed you and you will pay the ticket only which won't effect your notoriety.

They just come here to abuse the rules and get cash. I've seen most cops hunting the players for the reason "driving in the wrong lane" as you were driving in the right one.

After reading everything posted by all of you, I thought a lot about that. In my own opinion, people just play SA:MP for fun, many of them can't even speak english. I know some people, they have great ideas and speak english properly but they just think about kills, money farm and ruin the others day. What Djinn said before about someone who took out his shotgun from under the car is a great idea (not against that) but that leads to a DM fest. My question is, how many RPs did you saw someone being kidnapped, stopped or something and that guys ends up alive? After all, I know someone who leads his RP to insult anyone ICly and causes a shootout.

[Bruce.]

I agree with you 100%. People (mostly cops) don't give a fuck about RP. They just come here to abuse the rules and get cash. I've seen most cops hunting the players for the reason "driving in the wrong lane" as you were driving in the right one. I believe this is a VERY VERY VERY light RP Server as most people abuse most of it things and 3 out of 50 people RP along.

Because its cops's fault that you evade a $50 up to $250 fine. It is cop's fault that you drive like a complete jackass. Because its cop's fault that you see some guy being chased  by 3 4 police cars and you decide to join out of nowhere and start ramming cops. Because its cop's fault that people turn a normal traffic stop to a 50v50 shootout like its fucking fortnite all over again. Once again, if you got no idea if cops do roleplay or no then start thinking who actually tries to roleplay and who does not.

[Bogomil]

Let's see who's ready for that change in mindset then. Cast your votes. And it's not about winning/losing mentality.

[neriionz]

It isn't just cops fault and yes, they have some faults. How many people avoid the cops after being shooted by a taser, they just stand up and starts running like nothing happened? After multiple warns by cops, they ran out of fuel or get forced to stop and they starts a shootout to save their ass, when they dies just insult or blame cops on public chat? This isn't the point of this conversation, it's everyone fault. If you want to blame cops you should whatch yourself first.

[Badandy]

Since I returned back to Argonath in 2018, my philosophy of playing has been: Roleplay the best possible for each situation and give players give experiences with me. It may not change anything over the long term but it gives some people some good RP experiences. Of course I'm not the best RPer but I try my hardest to do that than pew pew all the time. As a cop, I rather RP a situation than have a massive shootout that results in nothing. If an interesting RP ends in a shootout in a justified way then that's fine but only having shootouts is pointless.

Around a week ago I was attempting to pull over a vehicle over for speeding and reckless driving, routine stuff. I wasn't planning anything but pulling them over, asking for documents, etc. standard stuff. When I tell them to pull over, they stopped their vehicle and jumped out and started threatening me. I ordered the individuals, 4 to be exact to get on the ground since I knew where this was heading, they just needed more of a reason. They opened fire at me instantly and honestly I said "Fuck it" and left the situation without even /su them because their reason of just shooting and threatening me was just bullshit.

I have had good and bad rp situations since coming back but the bad really tick me off because they didn't have to be like that.

As a cop, my job isn't all about shooting suspects, chasing suspects or hunting down drug dealers/creators. It's my job to serve and protect in the full capacity that the law gives me. Not everything needs to be about drugs, guns or whatever else common to criminals, be creative. If everyone dedicates some time every time they go ingame to some decent RP that doesn't always end in a shootout, I believe that could help.

[Mario200355]

Metagaming and Powergaming need to be added asap for my personal opinion.

[Bennzy]

Well, the thing is, we can't say anything to HQ(SEn Admins too) otherwise we'll end up in unban section. Yesterday a group came to rp with me and someone names with "V" came and hit me, i was on 1HP, it wasnt a accident bcs i was too away from road, i reported doggi reviewed it and closed it and didnt answer when i asked he said i didn't see anything so i can't do anything, i was going to "report" him on forums but we don't get answers of forum reports and after like 1min a man came and hit me while i was on 1hp, reported again, again ignored, i /q and was thinking that maybe bcs of TCL issues with me made him against me or ignoring me.

[Hevar.]

idk why we got a Mayor system with no mayor selected? is this script just waste or what? Lets use it, make a election and lets have a lot of RP