Roleplay direction of the server

[Tonny.]

How many topics like this one have been created and nothing has changed? It's about the play to win mentality people have. Get over it for God's sake.

Change can happen. It is possible. How hard it is depends on how much people are willing to cooperate with staff and vise versa. Staff HAS to get involved by implementing and enforcing some rules regarding the quality of roleplay, and I don't mean just a 3 hour rule before returning after death. There should be an other ARUN meeting with only representatives from the groups. They should all agree on a list of rules to be implemented for the sake of roleplay, which will be represented to the HQ on a second ARUN meeting regarding this issue. Both parties should agree TOGETHER on a set of rules that are necessary and implement them.

[Bogomil]

I think the problem here is bigger than what ARUN can offer as solution. We need to understand if people are going to change their mindset and their style of RP (or what is more suitable - a mixture of TDM and CnR) and accordingly the HQ should start implementing stricter rules regarding the quality of roleplay.

[Bruce.]

How many topics like this one have been created and nothing has changed? It's about the play to win mentality people have. Get over it for God's sake.

If I had to get over the bullshit, there are 2 opportunities - either leave the server or pretend it's all good and nothing significantly happens. Thing is I don't want to leave the server or pretend nothing happens. Instead I want to push the start of that change. If you find it useless, you can give me your well-prepared opinion, why you think the change won't happen this time.

I alredy gave you my opinion. Hopefully things will change after this topic. I want a change as well, but you can't change people can you? Maybe harsh punishments will.

Ye we tend to punish people but people become cry babies and continue shitting on the person who punished him even a few days later after the punishment.

[Bogomil]

Then the staff team perhaps should talk more and punish less, but stricter. I believe if something is reasonably explained to the player, there's a bigger chance he doesn't repeat the same mistake in the future and the opposite - if a staff team member punishes a player without giving him a chance to explain then there's a bigger chance that player gets pissed off and does the same thing again, just because he was mistreated.

[adam_malik]

I think the problem here is bigger than what ARUN can offer as solution. We need understand if people are going to change their mindset and their style of RP (or what is more suitable - a mixture of TDM and CnR) and accordingly the HQ should start implementing stricter rules regarding the quality of roleplay.

This is absolutely right. HQ please just do it, do it!

[Bruce.]

Then the staff team perhaps should talk more and punish less, but stricter. I believe if something is reasonably explained to the player, there's a bigger chance he doesn't repeat the same mistake in the future and the opposite - if a staff team member punishes a player without giving him a chance to explain then there's a bigger chance that player gets pissed off and does the same thing again, just because he was mistreated.

Indeed. I am pretty sure then staff does not punish people without explanation first. Unless what he did was obvious as hell and the rulebreak knows what he is doing.
I, myself can last a report for two three days untill I get everything clear and then I do punish. But if people lie to me straight open I will no longer expect their explanation, I will go for straight punishment.

[Stivi]

Well, the thing is, we can't say anything to HQ(SEn Admins too) otherwise we'll end up in unban section. Yesterday a group came to rp with me and someone names with "V" came and hit me, i was on 1HP, it wasnt a accident bcs i was too away from road, i reported doggi reviewed it and closed it and didnt answer when i asked he said i didn't see anything so i can't do anything, i was going to "report" him on forums but we don't get answers of forum reports and after like 1min a man came and hit me while i was on 1hp, reported again, again ignored, i /q and was thinking that maybe bcs of TCL issues with me made him against me or ignoring me.

Not sure who you have asked or who told you that we don't handle staff&player reports on the forums, We have prioritised them since the new year, They are all answered and handled, I've looked through the report log and you haven't seem to have ever sent one so i'd appreciate if you atleast try to report misdoing instead of shitting on the system, Since we cannot handle your reports if we do not know about them.

Mine is neither answered and I assume not handled but can't say for sure. I don't mean to be offensive or critize the HQ, but I think ultimately it is up to you guys(again, nothing personal, I barely know any of the HQ members personally) to set an example. There's so many people punished for doing the same as a staff member, and staff didn't get punished. Of course the player might have done worse things but still, if we don't see how to behave, then we won't behave. If you don't want rules, then at least guidelines, for the playerbase to follow. This way you'll still have that "be whatever you want" Argonath Vibe, just better.

[Bogomil]

As a suggestion for those who never started something by themselves and want to improve, I recommend roleplaying simple things such as car crashes and things you do daily without noticing like buying furniture or clothes from the stores or just walking your dog around Start with simple things.

[Darxez]

I've been around here for a long while like many of us and still play time to time. Argonath has always been a place for me to join in and talk with friends and have nice "casual" RP with them. If I wish to go to extremes, I go to a server which goes into such depths; my impression has always been that Argonath is a place to have fun. While my points got ignored I feel during the ARUN meeting between the groups regarding this topic, more important matters such as traffic signs were discussed instead.

I've not felt like logging into the server recently ever since I was shot to pieces randomly while I had logged in for.. circa five minutes. The constant provoking between people and the backtalk happening is ruining most motivation for myself to RP, whereas I can do things which are nicer. I do not believe that truelly helps in the motivation to RP, people rather evade than comply to an Officer handing a ticket so they get suspected and have more notoriety in the end. It's all a game of "who has the biggest" balls these days.

And with all due respect @Andeey . As soon as you point something out to some members to HQ, including yourself, you lash back in a way which make me wonder why I even bother; I do not feel -WELCOME- in this community anymore, and so do some others since there's a slight hostile "profile" hanging above it all right now. If you wish to progress, work on your base community first; other servers seem to
have less of this issue and are more open, such as IV:MP.

I'd like to see people work on this, make the server back to how it was; open.

[TheGreasyChopper]

Everyone keeps mentioning ARUN, yet you guys fail to realize they can't do anything. It has to come from the HQ/Management. Implement rules on Roleplay - introduce basic Roleplaying concepts such as Powergaming and Metagaming(Things that go back to the beginning of Roleplay Games like Dungeons & Dragons). Introduce IC and OOC, regulate the concepts, hit the drug script hard.

Start doing something, not just giving promises and deadlines.

[Aaron Keener]

How many of these topics we've had over the years ? If I got an euro for each one, I'd be millionare. There are no changes coming, why bother ?

^ Actually true.

[Mr.Lawrence]

I agree with you bogo, please hq, we are not a light server as he said, supported..

[Marcel]

I agree with you bogo, please hq, we are not a light server as he said, supported..

We are a light RP server.

[Manoni]

We are a light RP server.

We do are indeed, but should we continue with such standard? Are the circumstances appropriate to consider Argonath a light roleplay server or maybe it is time to get a bit more stricter.(?)

[Marcel]

We are a light RP server.

We do are indeed, but should we continue with such standard? Are the circumstances appropriate to consider Argonath a light roleplay server or maybe it is time to get a bit more stricter.(?)

Being stricter has to do with cutting out the cancerous groups rather than changing the RP standards IMO.