My opinion regarding the 'police roleplay'

[William Carter]

This is how Gvardia RPs

Spoiler for Hiden:

HAHAHAHA 10/10 RP WALLAHI BEST <3333

[Spike.]

Back then, we didn't get tased after we refuse to put the hands up after first warning (which is forcing roleplay. I would suggest you only allow taser against players using melee wepaons).

Third video is just a shootout, but even there you can see the cops shooting drive by at the vehicle full of suspects without trying to blow it up and just straight up kill the suspects, but to try and stop them. When was the last time you saw cops do that? Nowadays you're likely to get blown up even if you did nothing, because cops think you MIGHT be trying to help someone.

Back then cops used to shoot people for running away.

Regarding your vehicle getting blown up, cops are only supposed to shoot the tires of evading vehicles (Unless they are getting shot at) and they can only shoot them when the criteria on the regulations are met. I see a lot of crying but I don't see any reports on PD forums.

[jovanca]

I love how everyone ignores the video that Jason sent, Jeremy eats a 50,000 volt taser into his face and he starts fucking shooting. Not to mention his signature on the forum

Regardless of what Jeremy did, it just proves the point im trying to make. You people don't rp shit. Jeremy wasn't tased with a proper reason or with proper roleplay.

Whole taser thing is against the rules and the vision of argonath, which does not allow forcing RP and taser is a means for cops to force rp.

Back then, we didn't get tased after we refuse to put the hands up after first warning (which is forcing roleplay. I would suggest you only allow taser against players using melee wepaons).

Third video is just a shootout, but even there you can see the cops shooting drive by at the vehicle full of suspects without trying to blow it up and just straight up kill the suspects, but to try and stop them. When was the last time you saw cops do that? Nowadays you're likely to get blown up even if you did nothing, because cops think you MIGHT be trying to help someone.

Back then cops used to shoot people for running away.

Regarding your vehicle getting blown up, cops are only supposed to shoot the tires of evading vehicles (Unless they are getting shot at) and they can only shoot them when the criteria on the regulations are met. I see a lot of crying but I don't see any reports on PD forums.

Nowadays you don't shoot people for running away, you shoot  them to make sure they don't run away. I sure won't bother reporting it to the people who do the same thing. And it's not about my vehicle being blown up but the fact that you people do not roleplay.

[Hevar.]

This is how Gvardia RPs

HAHAHA what hell,,,this niggah gets 50,000 volt and suddenly from no where turns into Chuck Norris and shooting

[Afyea]

Jason, I've so far seen you rage more than roleplay, so what you on about?

What does this have to do with the topic?

Nigga please. The main issue is the Gvardia/GSF understanding of RP which I've had the pleasure of seeing for months now.

[Afyea]

This is how Gvardia RPs

And can you please elaborate on why he was tased? Did he attack?

[Clark_Kenton]

This is how Gvardia RPs

And can you please elaborate on why he was tased? Did he attack?

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[JackDockz]

Well Technically, he was tased 50000V and his nervous system would not function properly for quite some time.
He could have roleplayed it and could've sued sapd for wrong doing if he was doing nothing illegal.

On the other hand, I have seen officers tasing people carrying aks and m4s. As far as I remember, tasers are only meant to be used against melee weapons and this Gvardia man had a gun.

[Spike.]

Well Technically, he was tased 50000V and his nervous system would not function properly for quite some time.
He could have roleplayed it and could've sued sapd for wrong doing if he was doing nothing illegal.

On the other hand, I have seen officers tasing people carrying aks and m4s. As far as I remember, tasers are only meant to be used against melee weapons and this Gvardia man had a gun.

The regulations state that you can not tase someone if they are holding a gun.
The server rules state that you can not tase someone if they are actively shooting.

If they don't show it we can tase them. I updated the regulations now so that we have to warn the suspect three time before tasing if he's resisting. Either way, he had no right to shoot in that situation, even if regulations were breached you RP it and then report the officers.

[Jeremy.]

I've started shooting you because you didn't provide a roleplay reason for tasing me. Just beacuse you see a blip on the map and the certain player has _Gvardia in his name, without you having any clue about his character ICly, you just tase him and force him to "comply" /me grabs Jeremy's hands, forcing them by his  bac." lol is this roleplay? Why I don't have any chance of resist, why didn't you actually tell me to put my hands up, frisk me, you know.. roleplay. You're just showing how cops have the mentality of play2win. I was not suspected, I was not being dangerous to anyone.

It's really funny to see those 'veterans' brainwashing literally everybody just because of their hating for a certain group. You guys deserve to be banned for such cancerous attitude.

Spoiler for Hiden:

I'm literally disgusted.

[Antonio.]

Jeremy summed it up. Any more questions?

[Stivi]

Lol Whiteman you've rped with Gvardia on every group you've had, fuck outta here.

[Jeremy.]

If you want me to roleplay with you then find your way in by roleplaying. If you're doing poor roleplay and being obvious of trying to 'win' a scene from the beginning then I'm going to treat you the same way.

The whole SAPD is deteriorated, starting from head to toe. [Rstar]Bas is Chief and a SA:MP administrator yet he's not doing anything to get rid of the mold. All I've saw in your discord is "backup Gvardia" while there is not even a single initiative to call eachother for roleplay. You expect people to roleplay as 'Cosa Nostra mafia', but in this kind of circumstances, while people are having their gaming experience destroyed by this kind of players, it will never happen. If you're spreading such negativity as "fucking Gvardia dmers" ; "Gvardia have biased admins" then what a new player will learn from you? He will be completely afraid of approaching us, due to your statements, and will act just like you, which will increase the hating around the server. Before pointing fingers to someone else, take a good damn look into the mirror.

Since you're claiming "non-rpers" , I will leave this chatlog here. Apparently a new player can be a role model for others and not the veterans themselves. Big credits for officer Mounir_Jones for roleplaying with us. He's one of the guys which actually co-operated in a roleplay scenario without jumping like a chimp and shooting, which most of the SAPD officers would do. He actually thought that we're UC police officers and we even gave him some extra cash for letting the roleplay go freely. Since someone claimed "Gvardia is avoiding every single traffic stop", you got proof down here little guy. (https://i.imgur.com/NsKX7Pd.png)

Spoiler for Hiden:

[20:21:11] Mounir_Jones(9) says (megaphone): This is the LAW ... PULL OVER to the side of the road!

[20:21:13] {FFFFFF}Jeremy_Gvardia{909090}: (12){FFFFFF} that was close

[20:21:13] Mounir_Jones(9) says (megaphone): This is the LAW ... PULL OVER to the side of the road!

[20:21:16] Mounir_Jones(9) says (megaphone): This is the LAW ... PULL OVER to the side of the road!

[20:21:30] Mounir_Jones(9) says (megaphone): Engine off.

[20:21:32] Henry_Gvardia(25) turns the engine of their Freeway off.

[20:21:38] Henry_Gvardia(25) spits.

[20:21:40] Jeremy_Gvardia(12) turns the engine of their NRG-500 on.

[20:21:42] Jeremy_Gvardia(12) turns the engine of their NRG-500 off.

[20:21:50] Mounir_Jones(9) says (megaphone): Prepare your documents.

[20:21:58] Mounir_Jones(9) rushs for his radio.

[20:22:09] Mounir_Jones(9) says (radio): Reporting TS on P12 in LSPD.

[20:22:09] Henry_Gvardia(25) chuckles.

[20:22:18] Mounir_Jones(9) steps out.

[20:22:19] Jeremy_Gvardia(12) unzips his brown jacket. He reaches for his documents and takes them out.

[20:22:31] Mounir_Jones(9) eyes Jeremy.

[20:22:37] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Can i get your documents?

[20:22:51] Jeremy_Gvardia(12) hands Mounir the documents.

[20:22:58] Mounir_Jones(9) takes them.

[20:23:08] Mounir_Jones(9) looks for the name.

[20:23:15] Mounir_Jones(9) turns on the MDC.

[20:23:54] Mounir_Jones(9) says: You seems like not fined anytime.

[20:24:02] Mounir_Jones(9) says: But you still breaking law rules.

[20:24:04] Jeremy_Gvardia(12) says: That's beacuse I'm a good driver.

[20:24:12] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Anyway, you know why i stopped you?

[20:24:25] Jeremy_Gvardia(12) says: Probably because I did a wheelie and passed you?

[20:24:46] Mounir_Jones(9) says: You were speeding plus driving on the wrong lane.

[20:25:06] Jeremy_Gvardia(12) says: Well you were half in middle of this road so I had to go the other wrong to avoid any accident.

[20:25:32] Jeremy_Gvardia(12) says: About the speeding, it was impossible to have more than 60 km/h.

[20:25:41] Jeremy_Gvardia(12) says: So you're wrong.

[20:25:43] Mounir_Jones(9) says: No, but also you were just driving on one wheel meanwhile the first on in the air.

[20:25:52] Jeremy_Gvardia(12) says: That's correct.

[20:26:03] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Yeah, doing that in the wrong lane.

[20:26:09] Jeremy_Gvardia(12) says: That's correct as well.

[20:26:13] Jeremy_Gvardia(12) says: But I wasn't speeding.

[20:26:20] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Let me know if you have excuses..

[20:26:44] Mounir_Jones(9) says: You don't?

[20:26:48] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: I do.

[20:26:53] Jeremy_Gvardia(12) says: No excuses, officer.

[20:27:17] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Alright, then i am giving you this time a verbal warning.

[20:27:19] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: I'm a qualified driving school's instructor, knowing all the rules.

[20:27:27] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: I have question for you, officer.

[20:27:32] Mounir_Jones(9) eyes Henry.

[20:27:38] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Sure, what it is?

[20:27:42] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Besides the wheelie.

[20:27:51] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: He drove in the opposite line.

[20:27:58] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: What is the issue with that?

[20:28:14] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: He overtook you, since you drove on 20k/mh approx...

[20:28:18] Mounir_Jones(9) says: He almost did an accident with the incomming cars from that line.

[20:28:20] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: This is a 80 zone.

[20:28:29] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: He had it safe.

[20:28:30] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Yeah, i know this is a 80 zone.

[20:28:46] Mounir_Jones(9) says: How he had it safe and he was driving in the middle of that line.

[20:28:54] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Listen officer. I'm a nice guy. Don't be shy. If youre broke, I can sponsor some lessons for you.

[20:29:02] Jeremy_Gvardia(12) says: Because there was no guy coming from the opposite way.

[20:29:18] Mounir_Jones(9) turns back to Jeremy.

[20:29:28] Henry_Gvardia(25) hands a visit card to him as he says: Think about it.

[20:29:33] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: For better future.

[20:29:52] Mounir_Jones(9) says: No guy comming fro mthe opposite way doesn't mean that you are allowed to drive on it.

[20:29:55] What is that? (Mounir_Jones(9))

[20:29:59] Visit car? (Mounir_Jones(9))

[20:30:01] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Yeah, it does mean it.


[20:30:02] Card* (Mounir_Jones(9))


[20:30:15] information about me, driving school, phone number (Henry_Gvardia(25))

[20:30:17] ect (Henry_Gvardia(25))

[20:30:22] Mounir_Jones(9) looks at the card.

[20:30:32] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: If you drive 20 in 80 zone, he can overtake you.

[20:30:38] Mounir_Jones(9) eyes Henry.

[20:30:41] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Prove me wrong.

[20:31:12] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: You are butthurt over something allowed and ignore the fact that there is BMX dumped on street next to the PD.

[20:31:12] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Yeah, maybe overtaking, driving on the opposite lane just in 20 or 25 percent, not in the middle of it

[20:31:24] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Are you okay bro?

[20:31:35] Mounir_Jones(9) says: I am okay more better than you.

[20:31:36] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Take a car and overtake with 20/25 percent opposite lane.

[20:31:50] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Yeah sure.

[20:31:56] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: No problems.

[20:32:01] Henry_Gvardia(25) takes out a notebook.

[20:32:15] Mounir_Jones(9) looks back to Jeremy.

[20:32:27] Mounir_Jones(9) hands the documents of Jeremy to him.

[20:32:29] Henry_Gvardia(25) writes ticket for ''False pullover, 250$ fine, G-PD, signature''

[20:32:32] Henry_Gvardia(25) hands it to him

[20:32:32] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Take your documents.

[20:32:37] Jeremy_Gvardia(12) grabs the items.

[20:32:39] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Make sure you pay it in time, fella.

[20:32:49] Mounir_Jones(9) looks at the fine.

[20:32:51] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Huh?

[20:32:54] Mounir_Jones(9) says: What is this?

[20:33:01] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Make sure you pay the fine in time.

[20:33:10] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Any reason for the fine?

[20:33:11] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: For false pullover,not knowing your shi.... stuff.

[20:33:34] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Hmm, false pullover?

[20:33:39] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Can you tell me what's the false?

[20:33:52] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Yes, he did everything correctly according to the law.

[20:33:58] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: By the way, have you read the law?

[20:34:22] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Of course i did, and how did you know he did everything correctly.

[20:34:28] Mounir_Jones(9) says: You weren't even around it.

[20:34:33] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Cause I was right behind him.

[20:34:36] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: What you on about?

[20:34:48] Henry_Gvardia(25) pushes the BMX away

[20:34:58] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Alright buddy, hands behind your back.

[20:35:04] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: We done with these jokes.

[20:35:11] Mounir_Jones(9) pushs the BM to the sidewalk

[20:35:22] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: I don't want to fine you for evading.

[20:35:22] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Look

[20:35:26] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Please follow the orders.

[20:35:35] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Which orders sir?

[20:35:54] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Oh, reason?

[20:35:57] Mounir_Jones(9) says: And for what?

[20:36:00] ***[6000] Henry_Gvardia(25): Traffic stop near LSPD, C4.

[20:36:14] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: For your failure to do duty.

[20:36:42] Mounir_Jones(9) says: "Failure to do duty" can you tell me exactly ?

[20:36:44] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Oh.. I must haeve forgotten to introduce myself.

[20:36:54] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: My name is John McKlein.

[20:37:16] Mounir_Jones(9) says: And i am Mounir_Jones, nice to meet you Mr.McKlein.

[20:37:19] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Under cover supervisor of Argonath's Law Delivery Department,.

[20:37:35] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Can you wait a minute here?

[20:37:38] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: No.

[20:37:41] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Don't leave.

[20:37:44] Mounir_Jones(9) says: I am still around.

[20:37:48] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: You will be terminated if you abandon the scene

[20:37:52] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: It is evidence.

[20:38:17] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: May I see your badge?

[20:38:24] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: I need the badge number for protocol.

[20:38:48] Henry_Gvardia(25) whistles

[20:38:49] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Can you?

[20:38:55] What you mean? (Mounir_Jones(9))

[20:39:02] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Show me the badge.

[20:39:05] Tbh didn't understand (Mounir_Jones(9))

[20:39:06] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: I need to see the number.

[20:39:08] Badge of? (Mounir_Jones(9))

[20:39:17] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: I must file a report for the department of law delivery.

[20:39:20] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Badge of?

[20:39:25] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Your badge, officer's badge..

[20:39:29] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: The Police department

[20:39:31] Mounir_Jones(9) takes out his badge.

[20:39:39] Mounir_Jones(9) Showing it to Henry.

[20:39:41] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: The institution that is under the Law Delivery department

[20:39:46] Henry_Gvardia(25) looks at it

[20:39:59] Henry_Gvardia(25) nods as he writes down the number on a paper sheet

[20:40:05] Mounir_Jones(9) says: I will be here, just to talk in something.

[20:40:15] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Excuse me.

[20:40:15] Mounir_Jones(9) says (radio): U17 how copy?

[20:40:25] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Don't damage the investigation

[20:40:35] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Yes.

[20:40:43] Mounir_Jones(9) says: But what is this all for?

[20:40:47] ***[6000] Henry_Gvardia(25): UC25::Suspect is suspicious! Looking for excuses.

[20:40:53] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Alright. Sir.

[20:40:57] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Please move on.

[20:41:03] Viktor_Gvardia(4) rolls down their window.

[20:41:12] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Your being arrested until investigation for Law Delivery department is done.

[20:41:23] Henry_Gvardia(25) gently drags him to the car

[20:41:30] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Move on.

[20:41:31] Viktor_Gvardia(4) opens the door, pushes himself out.

[20:41:40] Viktor_Gvardia(4) opens the boot of the Sultan.

[20:41:44] Henry_Gvardia(25) grabs his radio, taking it away

[20:42:01] Henry_Gvardia(25) pushes him harder

[20:42:02] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Move it.

[20:42:08] Viktor_Gvardia(4) shouts [Russian accent]: Cmon move move move.!!

[20:42:18] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Wait.

[20:42:22] Viktor_Gvardia(4) eyes Mounir, then switches his views to Henry...

[20:42:23] Mounir_Jones(9) says: Can't i get in a door like all?

[20:42:23] Henry_Gvardia(25) frisks him

[20:42:26] what do i find? (Henry_Gvardia(25))

[20:42:27] Viktor_Gvardia(4) says [Russian accent]: Is he 10-68

[20:42:28] Viktor_Gvardia(4) says [Russian accent]: ?

[20:42:34] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Positive.

[20:42:37] Viktor_Gvardia(4) closes the boot of the Sultan.

[20:42:42] KJones(1) says: What is happening here ?

[20:42:45] SAPD Guns, Phone, GPS. (Mounir_Jones(9))

[20:42:50] Viktor_Gvardia(4) says [Russian accent]: Let's move, he's clean. 10-48 C7.

[20:42:51] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: We investigating

[20:42:55] KJones(1) says: You ?

[20:42:57] Viktor_Gvardia(4) eyes KJones.

[20:43:00] Jeremy_Gvardia(12) turns the engine of their NRG-500 on.

[20:43:03] KJones(1) says: You investigate officer ?

[20:43:03] Viktor_Gvardia(4) says [Russian accent]: Excuse me.

[20:43:06] KJones(1) says: Yes ?

[20:43:08] Mounir_Jones(9) says: I don't know. i was doing a pullover than this guy suddently comed on me

[20:43:12] Henry_Gvardia(25) insists on entering the car

[20:43:14] Henry_Gvardia(25) locks their Freeway.

[20:43:18] Viktor_Gvardia(4) says [Russian accent]: Keep distance.

[20:43:21] Henry_Gvardia(25) says: Let's go!

[20:43:56] ***[6000] Viktor_Gvardia(4): Ever and Alveron, do you 10-

[20:44:01] ***[6000] Viktor_Gvardia(4): Ever and Alveron, do you 10-4?

[William Carter]

Jason, I've so far seen you rage more than roleplay, so what you on about?

What does this have to do with the topic?

Nigga please. The main issue is the Gvardia/GSF understanding of RP which I've had the pleasure of seeing for months now.

I see nothing wrong with what he said but facts, what you on about?

[William Carter]

This is how Gvardia RPs

And can you please elaborate on why he was tased? Did he attack?

He doesn't have to attack someone to GET TASED, if he's not complying, cops will have to tase him for the record, Jeremy shouldn't behave like that, he should go through the RP and deal with it RPly, file a report about it.