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My opinion regarding the 'police roleplay'

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Reply #30 on: March 12, 2019, 08:31:10 pm
he should go through the RP and deal with it RPly, file a report about it.

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Reply #31 on: March 12, 2019, 08:35:20 pm
he should go through the RP and deal with it RPly, file a report about it.

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Reply #32 on: March 12, 2019, 08:41:48 pm


Jason, I've so far seen you rage more than roleplay, so what you on about?
What does this have to do with the topic?

Nigga please. The main issue is the Gvardia/GSF understanding of RP which I've had the pleasure of seeing for months now.
I see nothing wrong with what he said but facts, what you on about? :rage:

Fact? Not really. He was in GSF before, he was also GSF and Gvardia ally for a while, yet he holds a grudge with all of us because we never really took him seriously. I guess he's trying to get back at us or something, but then again we don't take him seriously, it's just you guys who do.

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Reply #33 on: March 12, 2019, 08:55:18 pm

This is how Gvardia RPs



And can you please elaborate on why he was tased? Did he attack?
He doesn't have to attack someone to GET TASED, if he's not complying, cops will have to tase him for the record, Jeremy shouldn't behave like that, he should go through the RP and deal with it RPly, file a report about it.
Please tell me how he was not complying before getting tased.



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Reply #34 on: March 12, 2019, 09:07:20 pm
Protocol. He already mentioned the reason.
Failure to roleplay or breaking the rules in general because you "think" someone is breaking the rules is never a good example. As long as both parties keep complaining on what the other party is doing, then neither will admit their fault nor would they work on improving them.



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Reply #35 on: March 12, 2019, 09:47:27 pm
ok ill just end the topic like this,


some cops suck at rp
some criminals suck at rp
50/50
now this topic is closed, @Chase @Bas @Andeey



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Reply #36 on: March 12, 2019, 09:51:29 pm



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Reply #37 on: March 12, 2019, 09:54:16 pm
Protocol. He already mentioned the reason.
Failure to roleplay or breaking the rules in general because you "think" someone is breaking the rules is never a good example. As long as both parties keep complaining on what the other party is doing, then neither will admit their fault nor would they work on improving them.
You're still having your doubts and find that okay? Read this reply:

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=125899.msg1962389#msg1962389

You can use yout shitty SAPD rules as much as you want as an excuse, however when it's breaking server rules, it's not going to be accepted.




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Reply #38 on: March 12, 2019, 10:10:21 pm
Protocol. He already mentioned the reason.
Failure to roleplay or breaking the rules in general because you "think" someone is breaking the rules is never a good example. As long as both parties keep complaining on what the other party is doing, then neither will admit their fault nor would they work on improving them.
You're still having your doubts and find that okay? Read this reply:

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=125899.msg1962389#msg1962389

You can use yout shitty SAPD rules as much as you want as an excuse, however when it's breaking server rules, it's not going to be accepted.

it is still called roleplay and I'm not reading that long reply, sorry I have no time for it.
What I'am saying is that no one wants to lose in Argonath and that's the issue. Everyone keeps blaming the others but themselves... You don't have to win against cops, and they don't necessarily have to shoot you because this is not a warzone I get it.  a cop is not even supposed to aim at you when you approach a weedfield but rather stay alert... but whatever, it's long changes that need to happen to both sides if this is what everyone really wants, and not just asks for...



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Reply #39 on: March 12, 2019, 10:35:49 pm
If you have issues with SAPD, please contact me on Discord Badandy#2764 or if you have found an SAPD member who has broken the law, file an Internal Affairs report on ARPD Forums.

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Reply #40 on: March 12, 2019, 10:57:22 pm
Hello brothers, all I gotta say is: Stop spreading hate, spread your girlfriend's legs instead.
yes
but seriously, what's the reason to do a topic? It will just make hate between LEOs and criminals, just send the report towards HQ, they will handle it. About SAPD, rulebreaks can go to a dismissal from the department if deemed needed, just talk with Badandy, he's a good egg, same for FBI, ask any IA member or Mircea.

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Reply #41 on: March 12, 2019, 11:30:09 pm
Spoiler for Hiden:
Jeremy nice skills  :war: :war:



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Reply #42 on: March 12, 2019, 11:39:55 pm
Question for SAPD folks - Do complaints still have to require the old shitty standard that evidence must be "RP gathered" like the courts? If that's still the case then I believe criminal groups have a very strong point regarding who handles complaints. No one can predict when a cop will do something stupid and do the usual "/me turns on hidden dildo camera, bla bla bla.". If complaints are rejected solely based on how the evidence was gathered, and admins keep telling people to report to SAPD, then where does the responsibility fall?

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Reply #43 on: March 12, 2019, 11:43:07 pm
Question for SAPD folks - Do complaints still have to require the old shitty standard that evidence must be "RP gathered" like the courts? If that's still the case then I believe criminal groups have a very strong point regarding who handles complaints. No one can predict when a cop will do something stupid and do the usual "/me turns on hidden dildo camera, bla bla bla.". If complaints are rejected solely based on how the evidence was gathered, and admins keep telling people to report to SAPD, then where does the responsibility fall?

No that standard of evidence is only required for IC corruption. If he's breaking a police regulation, non--RPed evidence will do.



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Reply #44 on: March 12, 2019, 11:46:48 pm
Hahah, what roleplay did you think was supposed to happen in the last video? Before you arrived, we just got you out of the area taking down like 5-6 criminals beforehand. Now a sultan fully armed and wearing masks appear, should we lay down our weapons and let you take us hostages or just stand still and get RPGed? Nigga please. The main issue is the Gvardia/GSF understanding of RP which I've had the pleasure of seeing for months now. Also like how one of your boys say why didn't we snipe them in the CB. I've adressed the problem with Gvardia numberous times during the last month and is this how HQ sees an official group operate. Please elaborate what kind of RP was planned by the criminals in the last situation. The first video is a brawl, self explained that we wouldn't shoot you down if you'd start a brawl. Post moan below.

This is how Gvardia RPs
Spoiler for Hiden:
Oh, so when criminals arrive at a scene, you shoot them, but when cops arrive at a scene criminals can't shoot? Oh, btw, you had also opened fire on Jeremy while he was on Maverick at that scene, so we could technically, and by abiding the rules, shoot all of you and not give a flying fuck.

[20:26:34] Fernando_Copeland(11) says (radio): I'm sure I saw the same motorbike at the weedfield.
[20:26:35] Chester_Campbell(15) has logged into the server.
[20:26:45] Fernando_Copeland(11) says: Race to the weedfield
[20:26:48] Fernando_Copeland(11) says: You on?
[20:26:53] Stiven_Gvardia(32) says: What weedfield?
[20:27:00] Fernando_Copeland(11) chuckles.
[20:27:02] Fernando_Copeland(11) says: Come, let me show you!
[20:27:11] ***[6000] Stiven_Gvardia(32): Stop this cop when he comes there

I simply stopped behind his bike, that he illegally stopped in the middle of the road to type in /r. Then he stopped again a bit later and said what he said. Now if you're gonna tell me that's RP or legal, that would be stupid. What I said on the CB he didn't see. What we all said on CB, you didn't see. Why don't you go ahead and post the whole video, why cut it? I'll wait a couple of hours for it, I'd like to see the part where you are sniping an unarmed civilian (as far as the police is concerned everyone is innocent until proven guilty) fleeing the scene, or the part where the police shoots a RANDOM PLAYER and the administration did nothing about it. Yes, you were all reported and a log check was supposedly done, can't confirm or deny, no HQ member got back to me on that.

You call that RP, what you did to Jeremy? /me pins him down? Or they way you moan "oh DM" when you literally opened fire on one of us? What, you expect us to watch? Again, your double standards are annoying. Come up with proper arguments, let's discuss it. Anybody else, PM me who from Gvardia isn't RPing to standards of YOUR LIKING, not Argonath's, and I'll handle him and you can witness it. But if you are not RPing either, don't even bother trying. Hevar, you can't.



3rd while i was parked under SF bridge a 2 man little airplane lands under the bridge to see who is there, with both ranked officers inside, realism much?
When i said on /p nice that you can land a plane in middle of the road and i will get fined for going over 80 or god forbid i knock down a pole.

You clearly haven't played in this server long enough if you think such behaviour is not common place. Take a long hike around Pershing/Idlewood and you should see one or two andromadas around.
Uhm excuse me you think it's okay to go to EVERY BLIP YOU SEE on the map searching for a suspect? I don't see the cop doing this come out and say I did that, my bad, very un-RP of me. C'mon, you're all ballsy, let's see it.

Jennifer_Etheniel was ramming a car I was a passenger of searching for another _Gvardia member because of their hunt on a _Gvardia suspect, I think Nikolay? and said "too damn gvardias around". What about your communication, team skills and such? Honestly, when we hunt we find the guy within minutes if he isn't on a plane. Why? We listen, all SAPD does is fucking talk, and it's tiring as shit to be on the receiving end of it.



Regarding your vehicle getting blown up, cops are only supposed to shoot the tires of evading vehicles (Unless they are getting shot at) and they can only shoot them when the criteria on the regulations are met. I see a lot of crying but I don't see any reports on PD forums.
I've had this happen to me (being shot at while near a crime scene ) and I reported the cop at the HQ, not the SAPD forums. Wanna know why? Because that is DM, and should be punished by administration members, not IA. And until that happens, this is always going to be the situation at hand. Needless to say, nothing happened to that cop, and I wasn't suspected, moving or evading. I even got arrested by the FBI and let go because there was no evidence against me. Clearly, no evidence because I didn't commit any crime, but all you do is act based on my _Gvardia tag. There was another person on that same scene that didn't have a tag and he was let go, meanwhile, I got suspected for some bullshit ass reason by Jason or Mircea, they even called the admin there to oversee or some shit. Heh.



>Gvardia biased
>use Jovanca's ban to shut him up.
>Jovanca is banned by the same "biased" Gvardia.



>You guys DM, that's SAPD PROTOCOL?!??!?!?!??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Gets directed to a reply that says that the protocol is against server rules.
>Has no time for it.



I got too much free time on my hands, someone reply to me already, let's see how right you all are.



Question for SAPD folks - Do complaints still have to require the old shitty standard that evidence must be "RP gathered" like the courts? If that's still the case then I believe criminal groups have a very strong point regarding who handles complaints. No one can predict when a cop will do something stupid and do the usual "/me turns on hidden dildo camera, bla bla bla.". If complaints are rejected solely based on how the evidence was gathered, and admins keep telling people to report to SAPD, then where does the responsibility fall?

No that standard of evidence is only required for IC corruption. If he's breaking a police regulation, non--RPed evidence will do.
Oh dope, is breaking the law also breaking police regulation, because if that is the case I want that guy above copbanned now. I'll give you more in the next reply, be prepared to lose a bunch of high ranks.

Mr Cofiliano how can you deny that we had any relation or intercourse, while you are prosecuting me?


 


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