Any future plans for this community?

[Jones3106]

I don't think Argonath has a future anymore. Argonath either needs new, active ownership or just die off.

How does a company function without a leader? It doesn't. It might survive for a couple of years but eventually, it will become either stagnant or eat itself from within.

Agreed

[Kowalski.]

I don't disagree about the inactivity, but Argonath has been around for too long now, we can't just let it die. Nathan isn't wrong, but we have to keep finding ways forward and if we can, we need the Owners.

For now, in my opinion, we should keep fighting for active leadership and a prosperous future here for Argonath.

[Bennzy]

I don't think Argonath has a future anymore. Argonath either needs new, active ownership or just die off.

Well mate, at some point you had division leader rank but you didn't do anything other than misusing your powers, I donn't know how someone can blame some other person(s) while he himself didn't do anything useful when he had rights.

[Kowalski.]

Nathan was in line for Division Leader but never had complete rights, and he didn't always misuse his powers. I can't say that Nathan is wrong in this topic, and I can't say Nathan has always done the right thing but none of us have all the time, and so I wouldn't go diverting the topic and starting to turn against Nathan, but rather trying to find viable solutions for the community.

[Thom]

There's nothing unnatural here to be honest. People get older, have less free time aka people ain't 12/15yo anymore. Once your free time shrinks, you're trying to balance things in your life and set priorities. If in the process of that Argonath discouraged its members to show up IG, that's why there are no more. For the server to become active again, we need to pass on the torch to a new gen of 12yos in clients of newer multiplayer games like V:MP. Otherwise, it will always be some veterans who still care dropping by from time to time. Also, we need an active leader only to get decisions through faster or at all, not because we trying to cling to a person to carry us to peak again. What I'm nearly sure about though is the community can never peak again consisted of the same players that the last peak was consisted of.

[Stefos]

I don't think Argonath has a future anymore. Argonath either needs new, active ownership or just die off.

How does a company function without a leader? It doesn't. It might survive for a couple of years but eventually, it will become either stagnant or eat itself from within.

Agreed

Just because you didn't get what you wanted it doesn't mean you can be a doubleface.
Loving Argonath & being obsessed with it and then because you didn't get what you wanted turn against it. Calm it down.

I believe the new GTA V server is what will decide the future of the community. I just hope that it's not more of the same on a different game. The developers seem to have been doing a good job from what I can see and it now rests with that server's HQ to make sure it's a breath of fresh air and not more of the same.

They'll need proper rules and a proper staff team as a foundation to build from. Sadly for SA:MP it was already too late when I got the helm with Bas. I can't speak for VC:MP and IV:MP as I've not played there in ages but the situation seems to be the same.

Totally agree. V:MP is the future of Argonath. The GTA V server will last a few more years, hopefully a decade until FiveM dies.

Nathan was in line for Division Leader but never had complete rights, and he didn't always misuse his powers. I can't say that Nathan is wrong in this topic, and I can't say Nathan has always done the right thing but none of us have all the time, and so I wouldn't go diverting the topic and starting to turn against Nathan, but rather trying to find viable solutions for the community.

There's no solution to fix this community. We live in 2020, Liberty City is from 2008, Vice City is from 2002 and San Andreas is from 2004.
Argonath has been a thing since 2006. You can't just expect people to come back to Argonath for whatever reason. They grew up, most have families, most don't like such games.

as on the Nathan part, re-read this as well plz lolololol

You need to make a sticky note and affix it to your monitor that says "think before acting" "think before speaking". This applies to your actions in game as well as on the forums.

[Kowalski.]

To focus on the true relevance on this topic (yes please piss off with your derailing Stefos), Argonath could potentially have a solution or two:

- Expand our marketing
- Transparency and active leadership
- Spread the word

Nathan isn't being double-faced, he's stating facts. Yes, Argonath needs active ownership and an active leadership body too. HOW is that double-faced?

So please Stefos, either post relevant replies or just get lost because you're not helping us find ways to move forward.

[Stefos]

To focus on the true relevance on this topic (yes please piss off with your derailing Stefos), Argonath could potentially have a solution or two:

- Expand our marketing
- Transparency and active leadership
- Spread the word

Nathan isn't being double-faced, he's stating facts. Yes, Argonath needs active ownership and an active leadership body too. HOW is that double-faced?

So please Stefos, either post relevant replies or just get lost because you're not helping us find ways to move forward.

I'm talking about Jones3106 being double-faced, not Nathan - don't squeeze in situations that don't even include you.
Also I mentioned that Argonath cannot be revived until V:MP is a thing - so if that's irrelevant then I do not know what is.
And why me get lost? You act like you care even though you're inactive, you don't even know what's going on.
We don't need active ownership. We need active EMS and SAFD ownership - that will start actual roleplay and start increasing the playerbase at least even a bit.

And again, read this.

You need to make a sticky note and affix it to your monitor that says "think before acting" "think before speaking". This applies to your actions in game as well as on the forums.

[Badandy]

This topic seemed to lead to somewhat of a debate. From my viewpoint, FiveM VMP is the future of Argonath since it will be the newest game we have in our community and many many possibilities are possible with this, I'm quite excited to continue working on it. We are on a tipping point since we relied on the same games for years, hopefully FiveM changes that.

[Nathan]

This topic seemed to lead to somewhat of a debate. From my viewpoint, FiveM VMP is the future of Argonath since it will be the newest game we have in our community and many many possibilities are possible with this, I'm quite excited to continue working on it. We are on a tipping point since we relied on the same games for years, hopefully FiveM changes that.

Very excited for V:MP as well. Will bring in some fresh new blood if launched properly!

[steammies]

Off topic removed.

[Nathan]

Off topic removed.

[Afyea]

Related to the topic, I agree that if anything - FiveM is what can save argonath, and those who try to shame Nathan for misusing power and what not, he had very positive input no matter of the outcome - instead of shitting, he did stuff, so please, respect that.

[Kowalski.]

To focus on the true relevance on this topic (yes please piss off with your derailing Stefos), Argonath could potentially have a solution or two:

- Expand our marketing
- Transparency and active leadership
- Spread the word

Nathan isn't being double-faced, he's stating facts. Yes, Argonath needs active ownership and an active leadership body too. HOW is that double-faced?

So please Stefos, either post relevant replies or just get lost because you're not helping us find ways to move forward.

I'm talking about Jones3106 being double-faced, not Nathan - don't squeeze in situations that don't even include you.
Also I mentioned that Argonath cannot be revived until V:MP is a thing - so if that's irrelevant then I do not know what is.
And why me get lost? You act like you care even though you're inactive, you don't even know what's going on.
We don't need active ownership. We need active EMS and SAFD ownership - that will start actual roleplay and the playerbase at least even a bit.

And again, read this.

You need to make a sticky note and affix it to your monitor that says "think before acting" "think before speaking". This applies to your actions in game as well as on the forums.

You firstly should quit talking out of your ass about the FD and EMS, seeing as EMS is closed since we're reforming it while Nylez and I are rather active as FD and others have exams or are busy with life yet have stated they'll be back soon.

As for the double-face, my apologies, but due to your quote in its entirety it seemed as if you were going at Nathan out of nowhere.

As for getting lost, I'm not inactive, I'm just a little LESS active. There's a difference. You bringing quotes from others out of nowhere is just plain idiotic as well as the fact you look like a troll who wishes to derail the topic with your remarks:

as on the Nathan part, re-read this as well plz lolololol

Regardless of that, let's just get off this topic and back to whats relevant

[MK_Lucifer]

Now that Argonath is no longer Argonath 'RPG', how about expanding the community to different games as well that do not involve RP.