Server reset - one final chance

[Luke]

Big brain move right there!

Came back to see how argonaths getting on and finding out my man's has just killed the server again

If the RS4 to RS5 wasn't enough.

Time to let go boys your walking a dead dog

[Anthony_McConner]

Where is The Problem what you all have? As I said yesterday, this was one of the best decisions the Server HQ could make. I already thought yesterday that former players who literally give a shit on the server get upset just because suddenly their money and their houses are gone. But where is the problem? You don't find it necessary to support the server or at least to play on the server so you don't should complain about it.

In the meantime, while one Part of playes really tried to stay on the server, shared suggestions and animated the server, while The other Part of Players are there those who give a shit about Argonath and still complain about losing money? Money that doesn't help them anyway because they can't get their ass up and revive the server?

Honestly, that is fucking ass-like (Sorry but that's The truth!)

Just for your information, it not only affected you, but everyone. And only you who give a shit on Argonath are complaining now? Pooh!

But now to get something factual:

What does this step bring? I will explain it to you.

Every player should have the same chance of building a life on Argonath. For my part, I've been doing this since 2014. I admit I was sometimes more active and sometimes less. But I have never forgotten one thing, namely what potential Argonath actually has if all players pull in the same direction. This is your chance to improve / change something, so use it too.

In short, it's not about treading on your tail, it's about bringing new players to Argonath, giving them the chance to build a life for themselves. You still have an advantage, namely your vehicles and items. If it were up to me, I would have reset it all.

You may or may not hate me for my contribution, I don't really care either, because I am 100 percent behind Argonath SAMP and its staff members.

The server management, especially Kjones, Khm and so on are now pulling their asses off, so appreciate that too. The entire SAMP administrator team is doing a really incredible good job and at this point a hearty thanks to you!You are simply the best!

I wish you a pleasant day and remain,
Olivia Benson

[Aca]

Big brain move right there!

What you expected from iKhmTheCow? 

[Norrage]

I’m not sure about the reset, I hope it is effective but I doubt it.

[Jeremy.]

Big brain move right there!

What you expected from iKhmTheCow? 

[KJ_deactivated]

Where is The Problem what you all have? As I said yesterday, this was one of the best decisions the Server HQ could make. I already thought yesterday that former players who literally give a shit on the server get upset just because suddenly their money and their houses are gone. But where is the problem? You don't find it necessary to support the server or at least to play on the server so you don't should complain about it.

In the meantime, while one Part of playes really tried to stay on the server, shared suggestions and animated the server, while The other Part of Players are there those who give a shit about Argonath and still complain about losing money? Money that doesn't help them anyway because they can't get their ass up and revive the server?

Honestly, that is fucking ass-like (Sorry but that's The truth!)

Just for your information, it not only affected you, but everyone. And only you who give a shit on Argonath are complaining now? Pooh!

But now to get something factual:

What does this step bring? I will explain it to you.

Every player should have the same chance of building a life on Argonath. For my part, I've been doing this since 2014. I admit I was sometimes more active and sometimes less. But I have never forgotten one thing, namely what potential Argonath actually has if all players pull in the same direction. This is your chance to improve / change something, so use it too.

In short, it's not about treading on your tail, it's about bringing new players to Argonath, giving them the chance to build a life for themselves. You still have an advantage, namely your vehicles and items. If it were up to me, I would have reset it all.

You may or may not hate me for my contribution, I don't really care either, because I am 100 percent behind Argonath SAMP and its staff members.

The server management, especially Kjones, Khm and so on are now pulling their asses off, so appreciate that too. The entire SAMP administrator team is doing a really incredible good job and at this point a hearty thanks to you!You are simply the best!

I wish you a pleasant day and remain,
Olivia Benson

Thank you for supporting!

[Bennzy]

People are unbanned as well? 🙄

[Bogomil]

RS4 > RS5 re-enactment.

What is this supposed to achieve?

Have you even considered consulting the players to see if this is what they want, or is this another lonewolf move?

This isn't exactly generating positive response, in case you didn't notice.

Quite the opposite if you see what's going on the server right now. And why consult the players if they are not going to add anything like they haven't before in previous recent topics? The negative responses are only coming from those who are nolifing mudoo or those that pop once every month to see what properties to own which is a positive thing for us.

This is your number one mistake. Stop caring who nolives in Mudoo and care about your own server, because most of the people that spend their time in Mudoo, used to do it for Argonath. What changed? Bold decisions like this one made the players leave. "Why consulting players?" - because of the players this community existed for 12 years (yeah, I don't count the last 2 ) and because of people who think they own everything the server will never be the same. Ever.

Sorry not sorry.  I'll probably get a forum ban as well, cuz people like you do whatever they want until it's all ruined.

[TheGreasyChopper]

RS4 > RS5 re-enactment.

What is this supposed to achieve?

Have you even considered consulting the players to see if this is what they want, or is this another lonewolf move?

This isn't exactly generating positive response, in case you didn't notice.

Quite the opposite if you see what's going on the server right now. And why consult the players if they are not going to add anything like they haven't before in previous recent topics? The negative responses are only coming from those who are nolifing mudoo or those that pop once every month to see what properties to own which is a positive thing for us.

This is your number one mistake. Stop caring who nolives in Mudoo and care about your own server, because most of the people that spend their time in Mudoo, used to do it for Argonath. What changed? Bold decisions like this one made the players leave. "Why consulting players?" - because of the players this community existed for 12 years (yeah, I don't count the last 2 ) and because of people who think they own everything the server will never be the same. Ever.

Sorry not sorry.  I'll probably get a forum ban as well, cuz people like you do whatever they want until it's all ruined.

Why should Argonath give a fuck about what Mudoo regulars who already moved there and have not been active here for months if not years? This update is for the players who still stick around, unfortunately we have the side effect of people returning to moan. People whose departure I celebrate more than any of the recent changes to Argo SAMP.

[Kowalski.]

And why consult the players if they are not going to add anything like they haven't before in previous recent topics?

How is making assumptions about the playerbase going to help?

Whether you're right or not, you don't know this for sure, and you're just outright making an assumption.

You can't argue that when no one put any input on previous topics. It's a sad fact.

There's always gonna be at least one person with some input, but there was no opportunity for them. Instead, any opportunity for input whatsoever was disregarded and apparently your assumption is fact, simply because you said so?

How people acted on previous topics isn't constituting how they'll act on a new one. Also, if this really is the case, why not step up above it all, and take whatever hits people throw, no matter what, as long as you stay true to a good Argonath spirit, as a community?

I've made an arguable point, and judging that something you've stated is fact by using the past as a basis for it is hardly a case that's going to stand up as fact.

This just proves to everyone that most of the players are here to just "moan and complain." All inactive players woke up now to blame the reset move while everyone of them were not even there to help in anything. You wanna say "There was nothign to help with, there were no players in-game to play with" Then you can get this answer "There was Fort Carson Project, you could've helped it with  ideas, with your game activity if you really care. There were few players In-game, if you really care, you would join even if they were just 5.

Perhaps if the players weren't given a reason to complain, they wouldn't. It proves nothing, except the fact that players simply don't like what happened, and even more so the fact they weren't asked for their opinions or what they wanted. It's hard to "really care" if the server isn't what the players want it to be.

You wanna say "There was nothign to help with, there were no players in-game to play with"

With the occurrences here, its rather obvious why. What would possibly motivate people to continue playing, if their desires and interests for the server are being disregarded? Has anyone been asked about what they want? Not from what I'm seeing here.

I have the exact same words as Norrage:

I’m not sure about the reset, I hope it is effective but I doubt it.

Also, what the hell? Carter RPG is not relevant in any way to Argonath.

"Why consulting players?" - because of the players this community existed for 12 years (yeah, I don't count the last 2 ) and because of people who think they own everything the server will never be the same. Ever.

Bogomil's quote applies to everyone who's ever played here, and without them, there is no Argonath. You didn't consult any of the players and ask what they want, instead, now there's an argument because you went ahead and did something that the players, the people who would comprise this community, didn't want.

Rather clear when I put it in this manner.

[Luke]

RS4 > RS5 re-enactment.

What is this supposed to achieve?

Have you even considered consulting the players to see if this is what they want, or is this another lonewolf move?

This isn't exactly generating positive response, in case you didn't notice.

Quite the opposite if you see what's going on the server right now. And why consult the players if they are not going to add anything like they haven't before in previous recent topics? The negative responses are only coming from those who are nolifing mudoo or those that pop once every month to see what properties to own which is a positive thing for us.

This is your number one mistake. Stop caring who nolives in Mudoo and care about your own server, because most of the people that spend their time in Mudoo, used to do it for Argonath. What changed? Bold decisions like this one made the players leave. "Why consulting players?" - because of the players this community existed for 12 years (yeah, I don't count the last 2 ) and because of people who think they own everything the server will never be the same. Ever.

Sorry not sorry.  I'll probably get a forum ban as well, cuz people like you do whatever they want until it's all ruined.

Why should Argonath give a fuck about what Mudoo regulars who already moved there and have not been active here for months if not years? This update is for the players who still stick around, unfortunately we have the side effect of people returning to moan. People whose departure I celebrate more than any of the recent changes to Argo SAMP.

Hey man it's cool to be upset, we get it. You enjoy playing with 3 of people in a squad on Argonath that's cool with me. I never played Mudoo but by the sound of it they clearly are doing something right because they've nicked the playerbase.

[Kessu]

To the people who are crying over this change because "pLaYeRs Of ThE pAsT", that's not who this change was for clearly.

This change was for the people who are playing actively (regardless of their number). And if the change brings back some people of the past, good. If not, nothing was lost, they didn't play anyway.

[Mr. Goobii]

Everyone has the right to express their feeling and we all have different opinion on the matter. A move like this is very controversial and hopefully within a reasonable time frame we can all be united again and eventually go back in time to see if this was a good or bad move.

[danigold1]

Your money is worthless if you don't use it, and same goes for properties.

[Khm]

RS4 > RS5 re-enactment.

What is this supposed to achieve?

Have you even considered consulting the players to see if this is what they want, or is this another lonewolf move?

This isn't exactly generating positive response, in case you didn't notice.

Quite the opposite if you see what's going on the server right now. And why consult the players if they are not going to add anything like they haven't before in previous recent topics? The negative responses are only coming from those who are nolifing mudoo or those that pop once every month to see what properties to own which is a positive thing for us.

This is your number one mistake. Stop caring who nolives in Mudoo and care about your own server, because most of the people that spend their time in Mudoo, used to do it for Argonath. What changed? Bold decisions like this one made the players leave. "Why consulting players?" - because of the players this community existed for 12 years (yeah, I don't count the last 2 ) and because of people who think they own everything the server will never be the same. Ever.

Sorry not sorry.  I'll probably get a forum ban as well, cuz people like you do whatever they want until it's all ruined.

Clearly the action that was made speaks for itself that no one cares about them. Consulting someone who's been ban evading a lot lately and was originally banned for advertising a rival community is the least of my concerns. Sorry not sorry btw 'cuz people like you' always fail to read between the lines.

And why consult the players if they are not going to add anything like they haven't before in previous recent topics?

How is making assumptions about the playerbase going to help?

Whether you're right or not, you don't know this for sure, and you're just outright making an assumption.

You can't argue that when no one put any input on previous topics. It's a sad fact.

There's always gonna be at least one person with some input, but there was no opportunity for them. Instead, any opportunity for input whatsoever was disregarded and apparently your assumption is fact, simply because you said so?

How people acted on previous topics isn't constituting how they'll act on a new one. Also, if this really is the case, why not step up above it all, and take whatever hits people throw, no matter what, as long as you stay true to a good Argonath spirit, as a community?

I've made an arguable point, and judging that something you've stated is fact by using the past as a basis for it is hardly a case that's going to stand up as fact.

This just proves to everyone that most of the players are here to just "moan and complain." All inactive players woke up now to blame the reset move while everyone of them were not even there to help in anything. You wanna say "There was nothign to help with, there were no players in-game to play with" Then you can get this answer "There was Fort Carson Project, you could've helped it with  ideas, with your game activity if you really care. There were few players In-game, if you really care, you would join even if they were just 5.

Perhaps if the players weren't given a reason to complain, they wouldn't. It proves nothing, except the fact that players simply don't like what happened, and even more so the fact they weren't asked for their opinions or what they wanted. It's hard to "really care" if the server isn't what the players want it to be.

You wanna say "There was nothign to help with, there were no players in-game to play with"

With the occurrences here, its rather obvious why. What would possibly motivate people to continue playing, if their desires and interests for the server are being disregarded? Has anyone been asked about what they want? Not from what I'm seeing here.

I have the exact same words as Norrage:

I’m not sure about the reset, I hope it is effective but I doubt it.

Also, what the hell? Carter RPG is not relevant in any way to Argonath.

"Why consulting players?" - because of the players this community existed for 12 years (yeah, I don't count the last 2 ) and because of people who think they own everything the server will never be the same. Ever.

Bogomil's quote applies to everyone who's ever played here, and without them, there is no Argonath. You didn't consult any of the players and ask what they want, instead, now there's an argument because you went ahead and did something that the players, the people who would comprise this community, didn't want.

Rather clear when I put it in this manner.

Easy human psychology; give a person everything and provide him every luxury that he wants and needs, he will find a reason to argue and complain and say that life is too boring and easy. The sever won't stop progressing because of some people that won't bother to come back and are just here to whine as they have nothing to do with their lives and it certainly won't lose any players that do not exist in the present time and won't exist in the future. Just because they existed in the past it doesn't give them the right to direct the server's future if they aren't here anymore and moved on. A fact that you certainly missed, some people were consulted but they were actual players not ex-players.