Petition to leave SA:MP running

[.James]

Lol.

[Kowalski.]

Mad props for not just saying "stfu" and locking the topic at this point lmfao

 

This topic has become pointless lol, it's proven beyond any possible doubt that SA:MP Argo is no longer going to be maintained per the wishes of the community, so... this topic serves no purpose. I think we're all for revitalization or new projects, but SA:MP's unfortunately no longer a feasible one.

Isn't it ironic that this thread has more people viewing than the number of players active on GTA:C.

Well, not really. It's pretty much an alpha server and we're developing Phase 2. We're not expecting high levels of activity at the moment - so, no, there's no irony to it.

Everyone is afraid to speak up because they fear being banned. That's the kind of culture that prevails in Argonath right now.

I honestly don't know where you're getting this idea from. Considering I have my own viewpoints that even go against other members of Argo HQ, not once has a CL threatened to ban me, silenced me or anything of the sort. I've argued with members of HQ in the past and even with some of- actually, more like all of the CLs - I'm still here. We may not always agree but we all want the best for the community and a difference in opinion doesn't change that.

I could name those who very much actually acted in the manner you speak of, but this isn't a call-out topic (though it is kind of becoming one at this point), so I won't do that. Like Kessu said, emphasis on current community leadership.

Nathan - it's simple. Just play if you enjoy it, don't play if you don't. If you have an idea for something you want to pitch or run yourself that may be feasible, just reach out to a CL. I can't imagine you'd be turned away if it's a good idea and you're capable of getting it done. Topics like this have no use at this point and I think everyone's grown tired of them. Just be you, and enjoy the community


Also can we not have yet another bickering thread where we just point fingers? This goes to all involved, not just Nathan or any one person - these threads turn argumentative, people start throwing the book at others and it is becoming over-the-top stupidity.

 

[Stefos]

Everyone is afraid to speak up because they fear being banned.

Everyone is voicing their opinion in this topic. Whether it's supporting yours, or against.

Such topics are a complete joke at this point. The SA:MP server is online. No one is playing on it and people voted to replace SA:MP with MTA:SA.
So what makes you think leaving the SA:MP Server running is a good idea, with YOU in charge and NO ONE playing anymore? Yes yes, you never said that you wanted to be the leader of it, yet you keep acting like it.

It seems like SA:MP has no future. Argonath has had multiple incidents where people say they want to play and help etc etc but as soon as things don't go their way, they start shitting on leaders. You are the primary example. No offense.

Isn't it ironic that this thread has more responses than the MTA:SA announcement?

No, it's not. People see something they don't like and they want to speak out. Hence all the responses here.



Don't get me wrong. We all miss the memories. Nostalgia is a powerful feeling that does exist for all of us, I hope. But we must be realistic. No one has any intentions for SA:MP,  it simply has no good future. Let's give MTA:SA a final shot, people are already hyped enough. If it fails, fuck it. We tried.

[Khm]

Isn't it ironic that this thread has more responses than the MTA:SA announcement?

Isn't it ironic that it has more responses than the reactions on Discord to a new server announcement?

Isn't it ironic that this thread has more people viewing than the number of players active on GTA:C.

What are you, a 12 years old kid comparing the length of e-penises of your alter egoes? Do you realise that you aren't making any sense and talking out of your ass? You're putting way too much emotion over nothing. How's the number of replies or views relevant when they are just announcement topics and are not for discussing? Unlike this topic when everyone clicked and will keep on clicking everyday increasing the number of views just to laugh or be disappointed since you're the one posting it and shaming yourself.

[Sawyer]

Why would you want two servers of the same kind online, Nathan?

[Mario_Rinna]

I'd understand something like, "this is me and my friends, we are role-playing in this role-play server, we're active and using it the intended way, and that's why we're asking to keep it running," but asking to keep a RP server up because "I want to grow weed and drive truck" is just some next-level 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 shit right there.

[Nathan]

I'd understand something like, "this is me and my friends, we are role-playing in this role-play server, we're active and using it the intended way, and that's why we're asking to keep it running," but asking to keep a RP server up because "I want to grow weed and drive truck" is just some next-level 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 shit right there.

When's the last time you been relevant? 🤡 Go back to your inactivity hole, shitposter.

Isn't it ironic that most people commenting on this topic have VC:MP staff ranks whom most have zero intentions to play SA:MP? 

You tell me. Look at the sad announcement thread. You managed to push everyone out. Only people that are left here are inactive trolls like Mario and "staff" who are only here because they hold a rank. And Huntsman. That's literally it. You can count the people on two hands.


But for real though, who exactly are we building a new server for? Everyone has either been community banned or left. 9 people reacted to the announcement on Discord out of 450+ members. That's ridiculous. That should give you a signal about the activity of the server and the broader community.

I don't understand what the push is for going out of our way to shutdown an okay working server for a replacement that's not guaranteed. It rests literally on one person (Badandy) to get completed at the moment and if he wins the lottery/gets hit by the bus/gets bored/has a personal issue/etc, we'll be dead in the water. I'm also offering a solution to your questions (I help find the developer to continue SA:MP support, etc.) yet instead, the push back is "no, we'll just shut it down because MTA:SA is coming".

I'm one of the more active SA:MP players (last month, I was #1 on activity), supposedly this new up and coming server is being built to cater to players like me who actually still enjoy SA.

Why would you want two servers of the same kind online, Nathan?

We have one server right now, the MTA:SA is a hypothetical that's in the works. We were provided no dates / timelines / or actual progress updates. It's just "coming soon".

[Badandy]

Based on the petition results and responses here, we are continuing with our plan. The SAMP server will be shut down when the MTA SA server releases. Enjoy SAMP as it exists until then.

[Mario_Rinna]

When's the last time you been relevant? 🤡 Go back to your inactivity hole, shitposter.

When have you ever been relevant? 🤡

You tell me. Look at the sad announcement thread. You managed to push everyone out. Only people that are left here are inactive trolls like Mario and "staff" who are only here because they hold a rank. And Huntsman. That's literally it. You can count the people on two hands.

I am not an inactive troll, you donkey, I am actually waiting for the new server's release.

But for real though, who exactly are we building a new server for?

Who's "we" Nathan, you haven't built anything so far.

Everyone has either been community banned or left. 9 people reacted to the announcement on Discord out of 450+ members. That's ridiculous. That should give you a signal about the activity of the server and the broader community.

I don't understand what the push is for going out of our way to shutdown an okay working server for a replacement that's not guaranteed. It rests literally on one person (Badandy) to get completed at the moment and if he wins the lottery/gets hit by the bus/gets bored/has a personal issue/etc, we'll be dead in the water.

That is actually a great advantage — there is an opportunity to build a new, fresh, non-toxic playerbase.

I'm also offering a solution to your questions (I help find the developer to continue SA:MP support, etc.) yet instead, the push back is "no, we'll just shut it down because MTA:SA is coming".

Like they can't find a dev themselves.

We have one server right now, the MTA:SA is a hypothetical that's in the works. We were provided no dates / timelines / or actual progress updates. It's just "coming soon".

Good. Nobody owes anybody anything.

continue SA:MP support

Literally, how? How? When the author of SA:MP itself abandoned SA:MP. There are hacks for SA:MP that are a hundred times worse than s0beit ever was. The whole platform is one huge security vulnerability. No new features, no security patches, bad modding support.

Do you really want a SA:MP server or do you want to torpedo the new MTA:SA server because you're jealous they didn't elect you to lead their admin team? 

[Kessu]

<random rant>

You really should take a step back from Argonath as a whole. Your view on things is so fucked up and consumed by your own hatred towards the people here that you can't see anything that's right infront of you, except the bullshit you're knee deep in.

Please, do us both a favor and actually take a few months off. Work on yourself and your life, do what makes you happy instead of clinging on to have-beens.

[Huntsman]

When's the last time you been relevant? 🤡 Go back to your inactivity hole, shitposter.

Who the fuck are you again?

I mean, I know who Mario Rinna is. But you?

Based on the petition results and responses here, we are continuing with our plan. The SAMP server will be shut down when the MTA SA server releases. Enjoy SAMP as it exists until then.

Dear Badandy, again,

Please do not waste your breath explaining your reasoning to an emotionally crippled person who is taking out his frustrations on random strangers.
We are patiently waiting for the new server. We are supporting the shut down of SA:MP.

Nathan has left the community and asked not to reach out to him. You should not care for what someone who left the community says.

[danigold1]

"staff" who are only here because they hold a rank.

🤓

Based on the petition results and responses here, we are continuing with our plan. The SAMP server will be shut down when the MTA SA server releases. Enjoy SAMP as it exists until then.

Actually thank you NathanA for proving with this petition that SA:MP gonna lose. 😹
I'll be seeing you in MTA:SA. 💅

[Nylez]

No.

[Kowalski.]

This is getting ridiculous. MTA:SA will be replacing SA:MP and that's been verified by the wishes of the community.

Why this is even an ongoing discussion, I don't know.

<random rant>

You really should take a step back from Argonath as a whole. Your view on things is so fucked up and consumed by your own hatred towards the people here that you can't see anything that's right infront of you, except the bullshit you're knee deep in.

Please, do us both a favor and actually take a few months off. Work on yourself and your life, do what makes you happy instead of clinging on to have-beens.

I second Kessu. Nathan, all the best to you, I suggest that you try taking some time off, it may help. I'm sure you'd be welcome again once you've got a clear head and if you later wish to return.

Enough, come on.

[Kostas]

Will all the shit we have in SAMP be transfered to MTA SA? Or are you guys making everything from scratch? Thinking a bunch of dudes who are now around 23-28 will go on a game on their bare minimum free time to Grind something they have done for countless hours in the past? To make money? And be able to RP the character most people in SAMP enjoy? A tough and rich motherfucker? If you dont plan on transfering the money we already have, I srsly dont get why you even bother ... No I dont agree with keeping SAMP open ,if for some reason we are transfering to MTA SA ... But if this is not a proper transfer and its simply a restart with a completelly new script, then for the love of god let it die in piece, dont waste your time!!