Petition to leave SA:MP running

[Badandy]

We have had MTA:SA and SA:MP running parallel before, one didn't kill the other, why would it happen this time? How in the fuck would SA:MP kill MTA:SA

They will not be running parallel, I do not think there's anyone here who would like to join SA:MP, it's dead, we get it. But why do you feel compelled to do the extra steps and shut it down?

Read my responses along with others on why. It takes human resources. It also is one of the many faces of this community. I don't see the point in keeping up a server that's not updated or played except for a few people. I don't care about what was done in the past. Yes there used to be two GTA SA based servers on two mods but that isn't revelant to what we are doing today.

Again, this server has had many developers and leaders in the past couple years, all trying to save it. I want to effectively close the door on SAMP and finally say goodbye and look forward to MTA SA. I know it won't make everyone happy but it looks like a majority don't mind.

[KenAdams]

Read my responses along with others on why. It takes human resources. It also is one of the many faces of this community. I don't see the point in keeping up a server that's not updated or played except for a few people. I don't care about what was done in the past. Yes there used to be two GTA SA based servers on two mods but that isn't revelant to what we are doing today.

Again, this server has had many developers and leaders in the past couple years, all trying to save it. I want to effectively close the door on SAMP and finally say goodbye and look forward to MTA SA. I know it won't make everyone happy but it looks like a majority don't mind.

Let's just hope for a better future of this community, yes.

[LOG4N]

WHAT?!.

[TheGreasyChopper]

  We should just shut down the forums at this point. It's just an echo chamber of insanity over and over again

^These topics are doing the exact same thing, the exact same way, pointed at the exact same people. Why do you expect a different outcome, Nate?

Since updates on the servers are kept to "leaks" on Discord, why not just shut down the forums and be done with it? They haven't been updated in years, neither has SAMP, SMF is FUBAR. Now I'm a bit of a geezer mentally, and I do stick around different types of forums, I have to the admit this is the only one WITHOUT a working search function. If I were a newcomer looking for a feature review, how would I search for it? You get the point.


Now, offtopic and jokes aside - I do agree that just shutting the server down does nobody any service. Now while I see no reason to shut it down, I also see no reason to keep it up either.

So what’s the request on my end? Don’t shutdown a working server for a halfbaked replacement. It doesn’t hurt anyone.

What exactly on the server's working again? The tax script maybe? Or is it the mayor related scripts? Or the activity? Take a look at all these topics, does it seem like the server's working as intended?

Anyways, whatever happened to

Shutting down parts of the community will only lower the player and staff counts further and will add nothing positive to the community whatsoever.

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[Brian]

Anyways, whatever happened to

Shutting down parts of the community will only lower the player and staff counts further and will add nothing positive to the community whatsoever.

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This is a quote taken out of context.
It was a response to players recommending us to shut down other Argonath servers and force the developers and staff to work on one server (GTA V)
We're also not shutting down the SA server, we're migrating it to a superior client and creating a brand new foundation and script. As you can clearly see from responses to this topic, its actually been received positively by the players and staff in the community.

The reasons for closing down the SAMP server once MTA:SA is up has also been discussed several times and our answers as to why are publicly available on this forum.

[danigold1]

[Nathan]

Realistically speaking - how much actually work has been done? Is this going to be the same story as V:MP?

[Toto Riina]

I think its really pointless to argue  about community that has official died at the moment managment decided to wipe server without any reason and Thats the reason behind why server looks like nowdays( Its owners fault too, because they let one man ruin whole community that has existed more than 10 years by one miss move) i have played daily, lost allot of days, hours, ages but i’ve meet allot of people that i am still in touch with and have meet some IRL, i can not say that am not missing gold days when we had allot of fun, but its just past time and we need to move forward, just see how one bad move can ruin everything. Amen

[WDoyle]

Realistically speaking - how much actually work has been done? Is this going to be the same story as V:MP?

So to ensure transparency within the community I have already sent Nathan a DM on discord as we already had an open channel for any questions but he seemed to have failed to use that to ask about any progress. Now if he had been apart of the V:MP discord he would see when we post any necessary updates and announcements.

As a V:MP update - We are working with the HQ team about next stages and planned releases with Alpha etc. As Nathan knows (as he is a software dev also) building something doesn't happen overnight especially when their is a change in the scope of the project, a change in the team and a change on the underlining platform. However we are overcoming all of this and making progress but not enough to warrant a forum update. These will come in due course when our members need to be updated. They currently have a RageMP server that is still up and running and accessible.

Lastly we are in NO DEBT to this community to provide daily standups or breakdowns about code progress to justify development timescales. All developers, managers, admins, moderators across all the servers of Argonath do so on an adhoc basis around their own RL schedules. Whilst members of this community might have expectations, this does not entitle them to anything. Our servers will be released when they are done - end of.

This topic is about whether to "Leave SA:MP running" and was posted in the SA:MP boards. This is not "Should we close X" "When will X happen". If you have those questions, firstly reach out to us and if you feel the community has an opinion then open a topic in the relevative board.

[Stivi]

We have had MTA:SA and SA:MP running parallel before, one didn't kill the other, why would it happen this time? How in the fuck would SA:MP kill MTA:SA

They will not be running parallel, I do not think there's anyone here who would like to join SA:MP, it's dead, we get it. But why do you feel compelled to do the extra steps and shut it down?

Again, this server has had many developers and leaders in the past couple years, all trying to save it. I want to effectively close the door on SAMP and finally say goodbye and look forward to MTA SA. I know it won't make everyone happy but it looks like a majority don't mind.

So you're different from the other developers how? I don't think you should make the decision to close any server down, provided you're not paying for this out of pocket. What is gonna break the server anyway? Nobody logging in? That will bring some trouble, yeah.


And again, I am not against MTA:SA, I'm glad you came to your senses.

[Badandy]

We have had MTA:SA and SA:MP running parallel before, one didn't kill the other, why would it happen this time? How in the fuck would SA:MP kill MTA:SA

They will not be running parallel, I do not think there's anyone here who would like to join SA:MP, it's dead, we get it. But why do you feel compelled to do the extra steps and shut it down?

Again, this server has had many developers and leaders in the past couple years, all trying to save it. I want to effectively close the door on SAMP and finally say goodbye and look forward to MTA SA. I know it won't make everyone happy but it looks like a majority don't mind.

So you're different from the other developers how? I don't think you should make the decision to close any server down, provided you're not paying for this out of pocket. What is gonna break the server anyway? Nobody logging in? That will bring some trouble, yeah.


And again, I am not against MTA:SA, I'm glad you came to your senses.

I am paying part of the server costs along with Chase that hosts SAMP. We had to move from the Argonath host due to stability issues. As well, this wasn't my sole decision. Community leadership also came to the conclusion to shut down the SAMP server when MTA SA releases.