Argonath is dead

[Nylez]

If you can't be bother to answer three simple questions from the remaining player base, then you are not fit to lead.

How about you come visit VCMP and watch in first person how the server Kessu has been leading for many, many years is doing before making idiotic assumptions like that? 

[Hammer_]

Argonath, in my eyes is slowly starting to get back on it's feet, but it doesn't mean it's completely standing. It's just slowly coming out of a 3/4 year long sleep, and it'll still take time. Meanwhile, I'm not sure if I'm stating what's already being done or not, to each divison, their own specific leader, who focuses on it which is exactly how it's being done. Bad calls were made even last year, which is due to the fact that leaders don't have faith, they'd rather give something to someone who'll make it worse but they trusted him but we're over all of that, new beginnings with Argo. Hopefully, the server will be back on its feet with the proper leadership that's just. Seeing the current leadership, I say we're going fine, slow, but fine. Is more attention required? Yes. Are more advertisements, more discussions required? Yes, but in a healthy way. Do we need to create hype? Yes, we do. We need to advertise the shit out of each and every single one of Argonath servers, whether it's the dead SA:MP, or FiveM. However, the constantly growing community is FiveM, and as Huntsman said, more focus should be given towards it since it can very well be the future of Argonath.

[Klaus]

Argonath isn't dead though. I'm playing it almost daily. This whole topic is a lie !

[Toreto]

Ah shit, here we go again

[Sawyer]

[Lonewolf]

If you can't be bother to answer three simple questions from the remaining player base, then you are not fit to lead.

Get a load of this guy.

[Nathan]

One last time; I have answered those questions before in your own topics. I will not be repeating myself to you just because you refuse to read replies to you.

I will not reply again to the same bullshit you're spewing out.

Then you’re repeating exactly the same mistakes that resulted in why AB failed, why Argonath got started, and why it’s died. If you can’t be bothered to respond to one of your own users, you’ve lost your community that you’re trying to “build” and “revive”.

Do better.

[Brian.]

Argonath isn't dead though. I'm playing it almost daily. This whole topic is a lie !

Nah It is stop be hypocrisy boi!

[danigold1]

Then you’re repeating exactly the same mistakes that resulted in why AB failed, why Argonath got started, and why it’s died. If you can’t be bothered to respond to one of your own users, you’ve lost your community that you’re trying to “build” and “revive”.

Do better.

[Kessu]

One last time; I have answered those questions before in your own topics. I will not be repeating myself to you just because you refuse to read replies to you.

I will not reply again to the same bullshit you're spewing out.

Then you’re repeating exactly the same mistakes that resulted in why AB failed, why Argonath got started, and why it’s died. If you can’t be bothered to respond to one of your own users, you’ve lost your community that you’re trying to “build” and “revive”.

Do better.

Why would I take advice from someone who gets himself community banned, then we don't want to unban you so you run to owners and beg to be unbanned, you make a deal that if you fuck up again you are gone permanently. You have fucked up since then. I guess the reason why I'd be unfit to lead is becuase I haven't enforced your deal with Aragorn.

Why should I bother replying to you when you have not read a single fucking reply made to you in the past year? Why would I waste my breath replying to the same question from you every topic when you ignore every reply just so you have an excuse to make another fucking obvious post that you still somehow manage to get almost completely wrong. I'm not the right person for you to try and pick your battle with, because I do not care about what you have to say when you do everything in your power to keep this community from moving forward with your constant fucking bitching, moaning and creation of these topics that provide nothing of value until people start discussing matters that 1) has nothing to do with you 2) has nothing to do with the topic 3) has told you you're just plain wrong.

You've been told by the general community time and time again in your topics to just stop, because nobody wants to see you make these. Everyone knows the situation around here except you, because you're never around. You don't care.

We gave you multiple chances to manage and lead part of this community and each time you ran away like a little bitch at the sight of first trouble. You really think anyone here is going to listen to you telling how someone else is unfit to lead? Get fucking real mate. You're not the center of this world, or the outside world. You're not as important as your ego leads you to believe you are.


I will allow this topic to remain open but know that it will be the last fucking topic of same bullshit that we will allow you to keep open. Stick to one topic to discuss your grievances with the leadership who are doing the very thing you asked in your topics and now you're crying that we're not doing anything

Fucking hell man, get some help.

[Huntsman]

Jesus fucking Christ.

Just how sad are you exactly? Do you not have friends or something seeing how you spend your days writing essays on how dead Argo is?

VCMP is doing fine. The rest of the servers are pretty dead, yes. We don't need you to tell us what we already know ourselves.

So how about you pack your things and get the fuck out already cause your bipolar bullshit is really starting to get annoying you cuck.

All you have ever been doing for the past half a year is repeating the same thing over and over again like a parrot. Seriously, we KNOW. We don't need you to come here and write essays about it. Just fuck off already since you have nothing constructive to add or contribute anyways.

[Huntsman]

Most of these screenshots are from today alone, others from the past few weeks.
VC:MP has seen ridiculous amount of activity since August. And you know why? Because I took some responsibility and decided to do something about it instead.









Not to flatter myself, but I saw the cause, I addressed it (lack of active police force which makes the game boring for people), offered to get back to the PD, and got it back on its feet.
Just like that, the server returned activity.

We are seeing 14-20 players nearly daily these days which is ridiculous numbers for VCMP. We didnt even have these numbers back in the "good ol' days". Because we actually DID SOMETHING about it rather than fucking moan with pointless walls of text of how Argonath is inactive.

What has your sorry ass done so far? Topic after topic of the same shit over and over again. Either do something about it, or just shut the fuck up and leave already.

this is the problem with you people. all you fucking do is moan,  moan, and once again moan. Topic after topic pointing the obvious over and over again. SAPD was dead, why none of you said "Hey, maybe I can try to revive the SAPD and contribute to the server activity this way?" or "Maybe I can revive ARFD and contribute to the activity this way?"

No, all of you pathetic moaners expected someone else to come back and heroically save the server. Who, other than yourself? The owners? Lol. don't make me laugh. I beg to differ their presence makes it worse.

Now someone finally decided to do something about it and said: "Okay, I dont think I can revive SAMP, but perhaps I can reignite peoples interest with a new server for MTA:SA, and for once in Argonath's history, shift focus to another client? Maybe this is that one change that will help the community?"

And guess what you did to Badandy? Give him shit. You were the one to try and put down Badandy most vocally.

Seriously, nobody gives a shit what you have to say. How seriously you can be taken you have already said with your little "i left the community" signatures to only come back a week later with your moaning. You know what? You had your shot. You failed, so now you make it your mission to put down anyone who actually tries.

To be fair, I think they should just ban you. Would save everyone some braincells.

[Nathan]

*rambling*

I don't lead this community, you do. A bunch of rambling about me and how I'm unfit to lead and how much of cancer I am to the community, yet the focus isn't on me but why the community has died.

Answer the questions:

1. Why did the community die? Who is at fault? I would love to hear your point of view on this.

2. What have YOU done specifically to drive the community forward?

3. What has the leadership team done specifically to grow the community?

VC:MP has seen ridiculous amount of activity since August. And you know why? Because I took some responsibility and decided to do something about it instead.

I'll admit, I love seeing the activity on VC:MP. It's awesome that essentially we have 10% of the VC:MP player base.

But why does it require YOU specifically to take responsibility and do all this heavy work instead of the leadership? Do you get my point? Why do we have leaders who refuse to take actions, refuse to listen to the player base, refuse to take initiative and lead and instead EXPECT that the players do the heavy lifting for them?

Imagine that you get upset for some reason and decide to start your community because of it. Wouldn't that be the exact same reason why AB failed and Argonath was created? Why are we repeating the exact same mistakes that created this community in the first place?

[Huntsman]

But why does it require YOU specifically to take responsibility and do all this heavy work instead of the leadership? Do you get my point? Why do we have leaders who refuse to take actions, refuse to listen to the player base, refuse to take initiative and lead and instead EXPECT that the players do the heavy lifting for them?

what the actual fuck.

And why do THEY need to take initiative? You are acting as if "THEY" are getting paid.

Badandy took initiative. Free of charge. He spends his own free time coding an MTA SA server for us. Nobody pays him. He gets no benefit other than his passion. Yet, you gave him shit for actually trying something new and officially aknowledging that SAMP is dead, something that you are now trying to point out with this topic. what the fuck? make up your mind.

Get your head out of your arse. People in HQ dont get paid. They dont owe you nothing. They owe no-one nothing.

[danigold1]

Why constantly choose to be negative, which is not cool, over being positive, which is cool?
Good stuff are happening and you still complain about how they are happening lmfao you really should take a break.

I'm very glad the next topic like this you'll make (maybe after "leaving the community" for 2 weeks) will be promptly locked as Kessu said.