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Cadets - a small lecture

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on: March 24, 2008, 06:36:57 pm
  :alert" BEFORE READING  :alert" : I did not put this in kill zone as I’m not venting nor flaming. Kill zone will always end in a bad fight I’m here for a logical conversation with decent people. Dot not read certain parts or just the brim of it and comment. It will be obvious and you will look like a complete tool. You do not only eat the side slice of a cake and then comment on how delicious it is while missing the chocolaty goodness inside of it. And I know it looks long but its readable in under 3-4 minutes so don’t complain  :rules: . Thanks and enjoy  the story  :)
   


   Never has there been such a low approval rate for the Argonath Police Department. As every time I login I say hello to my friendly admins, my helpful friends and my brave police officers. Yet the problem lies between them. As I’m writing this, there is a mass grouping and chaos around Los Santos provoked by 5 people who completely hate us, why you ask? Because some cadet had suspected them for not walking on the sidewalk , breathing to much air , or wearing a red shirt. Yes the life of these people is quite hard . I’m not the kind who sill shun them and call them idiots, nor will I flame them any other way yet there has to be something done. As every time I login I always see the one suspect who will flame the police for their actions. ARPD officers never get flamed upon as we know what we do. We spent at least 1-2 months free cop and trained for 2 weeks. We know what happens but this loophole strikes back. As cadets follow the shoot first think later , cops lose our value to role-play. That’s right some are even quitting. But why? They are proud officers you roar! Because we cannot do anything. We can chase a  suspect for 30 minutes only to find a cadet shot him the instant he stopped his car. Sure we can tell him not to do it but what’s more important for them? The $500 or the moral ethic.

Now from reading this It would sound like I’m flaming them and not supporting. That is very wrong my good friend. Flaming has done nothing other than cause a uproar which ends in the funny yet very un appealing disses which end in a admin warn slapping them. The answer is not to flame them but to provide a solution. Your either part of the solution or you’re the problem.

I want to thank all the police officers for their current efforts of teaching some of the cadets as I’m sure it did help. And a very big thanks to them indeed.

Now what happens when there are so many cadets?  Role-playing decreases and the server turns to C & R. People think cops is the only way to earn money  when I could earn a million by a twist of a finger. With so many cops, some can only help themselves to suspect and kill a afk person and hope to disappear before the person notices. And yes I’ve seen it be done. I logged onto LSPD and found myself suspected for not following cop orders, I was afk for 4 minutes because my cat got stuck under my car again , it’s a warn interior I wont blame her.

The biggest loss of so many cadets is the loss of players, players take it on as a chaos riddled server and leave where we could lose many good role-players. Our server is different from any other we provide different methods, we do not script hunt and open a server we are independent and now were fighting a war. Cadets are shooing away many players and its getting depressing.

We need to fix this its costing us so much! Cops cant work as half the population is roaming, want to play a fun experiment? Suspect a single person in front of lspd and see how many guns are drawn to their faces. I saw someone get suspected for parking their car slightly on the road and I saw 7 cadets running outside of their vehicles from any 10 mile radius only to point a gun at him SHOUT SURRENDER and shoot them right after. Because people have super reflexes and can surrender super fast yeah awesome!

We need a way to limit THAT’S RIGHT Limit the amount of free cops. ARPD is unlimited as we do the city good but there has to be a way of fixing the cadet problem. When people log on the first thing they do is not read the rules but ask , how do I become a cop?! And then go around and test their cop commands as they do not know there are other jobs. What I hate even more is they blame the server for a limit of jobs.

What limit of jobs? I have role-played over 30 different characters, I role-played a bum and made 60k in a single weekend. I role-play homeless people, street vendors , a hooker , a dance , a jogger , heck its not about money its about having fun why slave yourself in front of a job! There has to be a way to teach them that cop is not the only thing you  can do.

There should be a apply for cadet thread , in which they just need to read a paragraph of the most simple rules of being a cop. Included with the rules it would not take them more than 3 minutes to read and they are on their way. Too many cops has brought a giant loophole into ARPD and its damaging a ridiculous amount of people.

But if there is just one thing that we can agree on this thread let it be that you don’t flame these simple folk as we all were like them , does anyone remember my first weekend on this server? I was wowed by cop commands and dancing commands and while my name turned orange and I had no clue why  its all a phase flaming them means your flaming your past and its scary to think about as the wave lengths of our minds beginning to deteriorate and oh my goodness its hurting my head! But yes , do not flame them as its rude and against rules. Please if you see one help them out as flaming them makes the admins angry , the ARPD sad and the civilians very depressed.

Be part of the solution not the problem!


What are your thoughts about the cadets , post them here.


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Reply #1 on: March 24, 2008, 06:54:26 pm
Hello i am the leader of the los santos riot and i think all cadets need to go through a application process.



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Reply #2 on: March 24, 2008, 06:56:09 pm
Hello i am the leader of the los santos riot and i think all cadets need to go through a application process.

Your the leader of a poor RP excuse for DMing...

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Reply #3 on: March 24, 2008, 07:08:34 pm
Your the leader of a poor RP excuse for DMing...
   I am sorry, but I must agree here ...


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Reply #4 on: March 24, 2008, 07:22:30 pm
To be honest i dont care what you think, a lot of people agreed with me that cadets are abusing su. I should make a petition.  :rules:



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Reply #5 on: March 24, 2008, 07:39:40 pm
To be honest i dont care what you think, a lot of people agreed with me that cadets are abusing su. I should make a petition.  :rules:

There was around 5 new players that agreed with you...

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Reply #6 on: March 24, 2008, 07:45:48 pm
Only 5 people what you complaining about then?



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Reply #7 on: March 24, 2008, 07:52:05 pm
Only 5 people what you complaining about then?

Five people dming is still DMing...

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Reply #8 on: March 24, 2008, 09:49:48 pm
So your telling me the entire argonath police cant deal with 5 people? I have a screenshot of about 20 people who turned up, i did warn the police not to enter ls airport and yes they did get shot at, i asked to talk to an admin about stopping the riot but i was ignored, it only turned to a riot when cadets opened fire on us in grove street, for " protesting " if it wasnt for the cadets who opened fire on us it would of been peaceful, and yes we DID have permission to protest. So thankyou untrained cadets.



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Reply #9 on: March 24, 2008, 09:55:40 pm
 You warned the police not to enter LS ? What are you, the mayor, the president ?


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Reply #10 on: March 24, 2008, 10:14:11 pm
i protested peacefully until i was SUed for hitting a cop when i didnt then i stated to riot and as it was a RP riot i didnt get banned for it just fot the ads



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Reply #11 on: March 24, 2008, 10:33:17 pm
ls airport not ls.



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Reply #12 on: March 25, 2008, 12:08:29 am
I just want my cadet idea considered.

To where in order to be a cadet, you must have a passport.
This will force all players that want to be a cadet, to read the rules.
They will be asked a series of questions before getting their passport,
hopefully including some ARPD rules and laws.



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Reply #13 on: March 25, 2008, 04:01:38 am
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To where in order to be a cadet, you must have a passport.

I must say i agree with this idea, having a passport would help show the cadets the rules, and even if they dont RP as soon as they become a cop they will know not to shoot at innocnets and not to carjack. i must say when i first came into the server i wanted to be a cop and my name was " cop " my first time on the server and i had no clue about anything until i figured out about the website and eventually the ARPD. Then i helped new cadets and now they need some control but nothing stupid like you have to wait a week to be accpeted as a cop (which may be the case with the passport but if your active enough it wont) ...thats ridiculous... just a quick way to go over the rules and laws, also kings idea of reading a paragraph would be fine too. or at least have something ingame so they dont have to worry aout forums and will eventually notice them and be acive as well. Just my opinion, any other suggestion that can help stop this but keep the way to become a cop quickly but know the rules; please post.

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Reply #14 on: March 25, 2008, 05:21:47 am
I just want my cadet idea considered.

To where in order to be a cadet, you must have a passport.
This will force all players that want to be a cadet, to read the rules.
They will be asked a series of questions before getting their passport,
hopefully including some ARPD rules and laws.
:hurray: link i think this is a great idea and i truley hope it gets enforced.   :bow:
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