[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

[Dutchy]

"Unwilling to RP, refuse to comply."

Since when is "unwilling to RP, refuse to comply" with a POLICE OFFICER a server-rulebreak ?

Player A is getting "trolled" by the best RPers in Argonath. Two cops.
( /me )LEO B pushes Player A's ass in. ( In, referring to inside the car. Note that LEO B was on driver seat while the above was RPed. )
Player A requests another officer to RP with him as he does not like LEO B's RP. ( This is allowed by ARPD  rules )

Is Manager C allowed to punish Player A for unwilling to RP, refuse to comply ?


I'm a bit frustrated so I might be able to give extra information later, if needed, when I'm calm.

I'm not a dev, nor am I answering, but I think you should be more clear about the refused to comply part, as admins are allowed to punish you if for example you're standing outside a cop car, stagnating while the officer is waiting for you. I'm just saying that's how it might've looked for the manager. Besides that I've given up on trying to make cops open and close the door like a normal huma roleplay being, it's too much of a hassle for both sides.

[Stivi]

I'm not a dev, nor am I answering, but I think you should be more clear about the refused to comply part, as admins are allowed to punish you if for example you're standing outside a cop car, stagnating while the officer is waiting for you. I'm just saying that's how it might've looked for the manager. Besides that I've given up on trying to make cops open and close the door like a normal huma roleplay being, it's too much of a hassle for both sides.

I'm not clear myself as to why exactly was I punished for refusing to comply when all I did was ask for another cop that would RP with me, instead of using his supernatural powers to "troll" me.

[Kaze]

I just got tempbanned for suicide as suspect.

I roleplayed it by telling the SAPD multiple times to clear the area or I will refuse to breath. Is this punishable? I understand if no RP was used but I did state it a few times before I actually do it.

In a way this forces RP because I was only given the option to /gu or run.

[Cyril]

In a way this forces RP because you only gave cops the options to let you go or end the RP yourself by suiciding.

You can't just type /kill in the middle of a RP. A RP can't be from one side only.

[Kaze]

i didnt use /kill

i let myself drown in the ocean.

[[NP]Monte Montague]

Do developers actually discuss the story line / background story of the server prior to accepting or working on script ideas? Or...

How do they go about implementing things?

[Pingster]

Gandalf

[Mikal]

Are any bugs even being fixed as no scripters seem to have updated or said anything in bug reports for quite awhile and bugs just seem to be piling up, and when will things like the property business script be fully implemented/repaired so that our businesses can actually make some money?

[[NP]Monte Montague]

A couple days ago there was a discussion in /p.

As usual the subject was around "Forced Roleplay" and "Avoiding Roleplay".

Some people where saying Argonaths Forced Roleplay rule is pretty much the same as what you'd expect of "Power Gaming".

Is this true?

They also likened "Avoiding Roleplay" to Meta-gaming.

Is this true?

Personally I do not see why Argonath is  'beating around the bush', I feel it may just be easier to say "No Metagaming" and "No Powergaming".

There is a lot of confusion around "Forced Roleplay" - some are like "you can't force me to roleplay" some such as my self understand it in the correct sense - to some it up in one word "no power gaming"

[Janar]

Refer to this, Monte: http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=109624.0

[Gandalf]

Do developers actually discuss the story line / background story of the server prior to accepting or working on script ideas? Or...

How do they go about implementing things?

Stories and storylines are for the players to develop. All we can do is try to make it hard to acquire things, so they will be more valued.

[Gandalf]

A couple days ago there was a discussion in /p.

As usual the subject was around "Forced Roleplay" and "Avoiding Roleplay".

Some people where saying Argonaths Forced Roleplay rule is pretty much the same as what you'd expect of "Power Gaming".

Is this true?

They also likened "Avoiding Roleplay" to Meta-gaming.

Is this true?

Personally I do not see why Argonath is  'beating around the bush', I feel it may just be easier to say "No Metagaming" and "No Powergaming".

There is a lot of confusion around "Forced Roleplay" - some are like "you can't force me to roleplay" some such as my self understand it in the correct sense - to some it up in one word "no power gaming"

No.
That is unless people on other servers have changed the definitions of metagaming and powergaming.

[[NP]Monte Montague]

Why isn't there an auto kick for hackers or something of that sort?

[Cyril]

Why isn't there an auto kick for hackers or something of that sort?

We have humans able to think by themselves and commit less mistake than an automatic system would do.

[Dutchy]

Why isn't there an auto kick for hackers or something of that sort?

If I recall correctly, there were scripts implemented that autodetect money related hacks and other well known tools and it panelbans them, that's why you don't notice it in main chat. But I am not sure if they removed these or not after RS5.

Sorry for posting btw, but this one seems obvious, beside what Cyril said.