[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

[Hugo.]

Why isn't it that suspects must /gu and /hail or something doesn't count as giving up? A lot of players will /hail and then run away or jump out the cop car, not even RPing. This just puts more work for the players and admins...

I always try surrendering in a roleplay way.
I only surrender using the command /gu if they start attacking me after I use /hail.

[Gandalf]

Why isn't it that suspects must /gu and /hail or something doesn't count as giving up? A lot of players will /hail and then run away or jump out the cop car, not even RPing. This just puts more work for the players and admins...

Because we expect out players not to be cheating bitches.

[Antonio.]

Because we expect out players not to be cheating bad girles.

Then I guess I will ask something that goes along those lines. When kidnapping someone and they agree to the role-play - can they randomly jump out of the car even if it's locked and they're tied up and just start running away, jumping around? They accepted to role-play, would doing that be a rulebreak?

[Antonio.]

I would also like to ask something else.

Yesterday, I was checking out a business with two associates in game, and one of them was a suspect. Two FBI members came armed with a FBI rancher, so the suspect decided to run inside the business and hide. As the FBI members were distracted and watching the entrance and preparing themselves to enter, I went and got a towtruck and took their rancher so the associate could escape. I mainly did this because one of the FBI members got on the state owned NRG and the other shot the tire, which I found unfair. After a while, an admin froze me and told me what I did was script abuse and I was forced to give up the rancher.

I don't understand how towing a truck is script abuse. Towing is not a script, it's a game feature. What I find script abusing with similar situations is players getting on locked bikes and moving left to right to prevent from being kicked off the bike and using some other script feature to give them an advantage for something that cannot be done.

Now, I also don't understand why this should be punishable. This is a RP server and you need to look at a RP perspective; I know that this isn't a RP server but hey, it's common sense. Why would FBI members leave a FBI vehicle some where unprotected? A FBI vehicle carries much arms which can be stolen by criminals, so someone should look over the vehicle while the others do the job. Another way it can be handled, is the police to catch the person who stole and simply just arrest them...

[Brian]

I would also like to ask something else.

Yesterday, I was checking out a business with two associates in game, and one of them was a suspect. Two FBI members came armed with a FBI rancher, so the suspect decided to run inside the business and hide. As the FBI members were distracted and watching the entrance and preparing themselves to enter, I went and got a towtruck and took their rancher so the associate could escape. I mainly did this because one of the FBI members got on the state owned NRG and the other shot the tire, which I found unfair. After a while, an admin froze me and told me what I did was script abuse and I was forced to give up the rancher.

I don't understand how towing a truck is script abuse. Towing is not a script, it's a game feature. What I find script abusing with similar situations is players getting on locked bikes and moving left to right to prevent from being kicked off the bike and using some other script feature to give them an advantage for something that cannot be done.

Now, I also don't understand why this should be punishable. This is a RP server and you need to look at a RP perspective; I know that this isn't a RP server but hey, it's common sense. Why would FBI members leave a FBI vehicle some where unprotected? A FBI vehicle carries much arms which can be stolen by criminals, so someone should look over the vehicle while the others do the job. Another way it can be handled, is the police to catch the person who stole and simply just arrest them...

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Cops always shoot my locked car tires whem kidnappimg, that is script abuse  not towing abcar awau

[Huskar]

I would also like to ask something else.

Yesterday, I was checking out a business with two associates in game, and one of them was a suspect. Two FBI members came armed with a FBI rancher, so the suspect decided to run inside the business and hide. As the FBI members were distracted and watching the entrance and preparing themselves to enter, I went and got a towtruck and took their rancher so the associate could escape. I mainly did this because one of the FBI members got on the state owned NRG and the other shot the tire, which I found unfair. After a while, an admin froze me and told me what I did was script abuse and I was forced to give up the rancher.

I don't understand how towing a truck is script abuse. Towing is not a script, it's a game feature. What I find script abusing with similar situations is players getting on locked bikes and moving left to right to prevent from being kicked off the bike and using some other script feature to give them an advantage for something that cannot be done.

Now, I also don't understand why this should be punishable. This is a RP server and you need to look at a RP perspective; I know that this isn't a RP server but hey, it's common sense. Why would FBI members leave a FBI vehicle some where unprotected? A FBI vehicle carries much arms which can be stolen by criminals, so someone should look over the vehicle while the others do the job. Another way it can be handled, is the police to catch the person who stole and simply just arrest them...

Well if you want to look at a RP prespective you should RP stealing the truck, not just use space and drive away.

[Antonio.]

Well if you want to look at a RP prespective you should RP stealing the truck, not just use space and drive away.

Cops were inside an interior. Oh, and since when does everything in Argonath have to have a good description?

[Pingster]

Because towing isn't rp, it's a game feature as you said it yourself.

[Antonio.]

Because towing isn't rp, it's a game feature as you said it yourself.

Running, jumping etc. must also not be RP.

[Pingster]

Correct. Or did you think that running and jumping all day is considered a roleplay?

[Antonio.]

Correct. Or did you think that running and jumping all day is considered a roleplay?

No, spamming /me running, /me jumps is RP. LoL at your comments man. I will just wait for a developer to reply...

[Pingster]

And /me tows a car is just as much RP. Just hitting spacebar to tow a car or to jump is not roleplay.

Anyway, far as I can tell, what you did was not script abuse, it was theft of government property and should've been handled through the law system.

[Hugo.]

Yes, Antonio, now you need to write 500 sentences with the /me command just to tow a simple FBI rancher.

[TheLegitHabibi]

Government vehicles are locked so that they may not be driven or stolen by others. Stolen goverment vehicles causes problems when members require them. These vehicles are locked by script and it is not possible to steal them away.
As far as I am aware of, towing away these vehicles is script abuse. As you are bypassing the locked script.

Walking, jumping or running is also considered Roleplay. If you think that typing the /me description is the only way to roleplay, then no. Some actions do not require such descriptive commands. Otherwise we would have to write /me takes a step, every time we walk for it to be Roleplay.
I don't think towing away the rancher after using /me tows the rancher, would make that an act of roleplay. Like I said, from what I'm aware of, it is considered as script abuse. And if something is against rules, you cannot roleplay it and make it allowed.

Deathmatching is a rulebreak. I can't roleplay being a person with a killing disease and start deathmatching people.

Also, like Antonio said, it's quite common that cops get in locked cars for 1 second and shoot the tires. Is it allowed? It's fine with unlocked or state cars, but what about personal locked cars?

Awaiting reply from a Dev. :3

[Jeremy.]

Government vehicles are locked so that they may not be driven or stolen by others. Stolen goverment vehicles causes problems when members require them. These vehicles are locked by script and it is not possible to steal them away.
As far as I am aware of, towing away these vehicles is script abuse. As you are bypassing the locked script.

Walking, jumping or running is also considered Roleplay. If you think that typing the /me description is the only way to roleplay, then no. Some actions do not require such descriptive commands. Otherwise we would have to write /me takes a step, every time we walk for it to be Roleplay.
I don't think towing away the rancher after using /me tows the rancher, would make that an act of roleplay. Like I said, from what I'm aware of, it is considered as script abuse. And if something is against rules, you cannot roleplay it and make it allowed.

Deathmatching is a rulebreak. I can't roleplay being a person with a killing disease and start deathmatching people.

Also, like Antonio said, it's quite common that cops get in locked cars for 1 second and shoot the tires. Is it allowed? It's fine with unlocked or state cars, but what about personal locked cars?

Awaiting reply from a Dev. :3

Really? Can not understand English?

I will just wait for a developer to reply...